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McGrath wouldn't get on many teams in the form he's in right now. He certainly wouldn't get on the Limerick team. Podge has played one good game this season and Duggan is not consistent f4om general play either. I think you are over estimating those players. Colm Galvin is a wizard and McInerney is awesone at the back..after that Id prefer all the Limerick players.....Kelly if he gets his range in is obviously brilliant. His sights haven't been zoned in for years...

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 16/06/2018 16:46:01    2112140

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Replying To daveboy:  "Conor McGrath has been poor in a Clare jersey for quite a while now. Podge albeit played we'll as a sub the last day hasn't has any consistency over the last few years for several reasons. Duggan was poor against cork and Waterford but did well last day. Conlon having a decent year and o Donnell is threatening b it doesn't score enough. All being said I'm happy with limericks starting forwards and wouldn't change any of them. Just my opinion."
Exactly. We've a strong enough panel at the moment to avoid having off form players on even our bench.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 16/06/2018 17:33:07    2112157

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Replying To hamstring:  "I would gladly take O'Donnell, Conlon, Duggan and Podge on my team anyday.
When McGrath cant make the team it says a lot about the Clare forwards.
He would get on most other county teams right now."
So what four limerick players would you drop for these four clare players ?
Gillane ? Mulcahy ? Flanagan . Hegarty hayes. , dowling , - tom morrissey or maybe peter casey when fit ? I think I would stick with the limerick lads to be honest. , they have served us well so far this yr and most of them have their best yrs in front of them but look you are entitled to your opinion aswell and its makes interesting reading .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 16/06/2018 19:44:03    2112169

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On a completely different note . We are staying in ennis tomorrow night , any good pubs to go to after game for the crack and maybe live music tomorrow night . Maybe our Clare friends might have a few ideas , thanks in advance

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 16/06/2018 20:00:56    2112172

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Replying To beirbua:  "You are spot on. I live in Clare and hurling folk here regard Limerick as a really serious outfit.

As for the analysts. It is true some of them rate Limerick only as a fire and belly team. However, these lads just don't know their hurling and so I would not be too put out by them.

Fair to say that the all the top notch pundits , the ones who matter, are now assessing Limerick as a big, physical, skilful, fit and brilliantly coached side.

Finally, in terms of nice things being said about us, we should be careful what we wish for.
The spectacular semi-final collapse against Clare in 2013 is in part explained by getting sucked in to the hype and the jamboree.
The camp knows this time round the lower the profile the better.

Luimneach abú!"
This is well said! ...never mind jamboree....stay under radar.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 16/06/2018 22:13:18    2112191

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Replying To WhipOnTheBall:  "On a completely different note . We are staying in ennis tomorrow night , any good pubs to go to after game for the crack and maybe live music tomorrow night . Maybe our Clare friends might have a few ideas , thanks in advance"
Ah, Ennis is a great town and will be buzzing tomorrow.
Great to see Clare playing a Munster game there again with a full-house.
For me, it's a better atmosphere around town than Thurles and Cork because the town centre and pubs are just a minute from the pitch. Should be plenty of music in pubs there tomorrow night. My regret is that I cant make it up there tonight as the crack would be even better. I like Knox's pub, you cant really miss it going into town from the pitch.
we might even meet there after the game and argue as to which Clare forwards we can transfer...!!!!!
Limerick abu…..

hamstring (Limerick) - Posts: 318 - 16/06/2018 23:11:39    2112198

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Replying To hamstring:  "Ah, Ennis is a great town and will be buzzing tomorrow.
Great to see Clare playing a Munster game there again with a full-house.
For me, it's a better atmosphere around town than Thurles and Cork because the town centre and pubs are just a minute from the pitch. Should be plenty of music in pubs there tomorrow night. My regret is that I cant make it up there tonight as the crack would be even better. I like Knox's pub, you cant really miss it going into town from the pitch.
we might even meet there after the game and argue as to which Clare forwards we can transfer...!!!!!
Limerick abu….."
Thanks for that hamstring , I will be heading there and maybe a few more establishments after the game to check out the crack and banter and mingle with the limk and clare supporters and have a laugh and maybe a sing song regardless of the result . I am relieved to be still in the All Ire series when you see tipp and watfd gone but we deserve to be there as do clare and cork but why not get to a muns final aswell and see how that goes . Hopefully the lessons of 2013 will have been learned for later in the summer ...best of luck to our brilliant minor team aswell tomorrow and get in early to support them ...LUIMNEACH ABU

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 16/06/2018 23:58:15    2112206

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Sorry lads but Diarmuid Byrnes should be ashamed of himself! Disgusting

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 17/06/2018 14:39:02    2112255

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I would only expect to see that carry on in the World Cup. I'm furious

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 17/06/2018 14:56:18    2112260

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Dreadful stuff out of Limerick.. No shape, too nervous esp in the first half and hit some terrible wides.
Creeping into the AI series in 3rd place is deserved.
Hopefully they will learn from this because we're not that bad.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 17/06/2018 15:40:37    2112269

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The management have been praised when deserving and should be criticized when appropriate too.. bringing on McCarty and taking of a corner forward when your losing and playing with the wind...

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 17/06/2018 15:43:34    2112270

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That was absolutely cat. We were second to every ball. Couple of bad wides when there was no pressure. Gone was the cute hurling we have seen in previous games. I'd expect a big response in the next few games. Still think they are in with a shout and will not rite them off. Half time change was uninspiring. A lot to work on. Looked a tired lethargic team but again I stress they are not that bad and we'll go again. In general that was a poor game with Clare winning handy without moving out of 3rd gear.

BigMack (Cork) - Posts: 182 - 17/06/2018 15:54:36    2112276

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No complaints at all, we were awful. The worst performance of the year. Clare were deserving winners. The main issue we had was that we looked exhausted. From the very start we lacked our usual energy and enthusiasm. Silly mistakes, bad use of possession… all symptoms of a tired team.

Not sure what the story with Byrnes was but it looked like he went down very, very easy. He basically played for the red card and should be pulled on it. David Reidy unlucky to go. The only thing I could think of was that maybe Reidy hit him with the end of the hurley but it didn't look that way from the replays.

Tom Condon is a right fool. He's given great service to Limerick but that mistake was inexcusable for a player of his experience. David Dempsey was very poor too. I don't think he has done anything of note in any of his substitute appearances. I also don't think he works hard enough.

I would be very critical of Kiely and co. Our big strength was our half back line, yet we gifted Clare short puck outs one after another for the first half. That was hurting us more than anything, particularly considering we struggle a bit under the high ball in the full back line. The sweeper in the second half was a disaster and gave Clare a platform for their attacks, basically giving them what they want more than anything, another bad mistake. Consistently over the last few years when playing Clare we have let them set the tempo and style of the game as they wish. They are a very good team and when you do that they'll win.

In saying all that I'm being critical of them for a few decisions today, not hammering them or anything silly. I think a break will do us good and we'll get back to our previous level. All in all a good Munster championship. A Munster final would have been nice but Limerick are very, very young. It should be one of Clare/Cork and Kilkenny/Galway in the All Ireland quarter finals which will be another big test for this young team.

Just one other small note: John Conlon is a great player. I love to watch him play. Maybe not the best to watch when playing your team but a really great player.

limerick_lass (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 17/06/2018 15:56:28    2112279

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If reply to Limerick lass, I'll pick just one point as still getting over the loss. This young team have done plenty for Limerick hurling this year. Yes, it was a bad loss but these guys have responded well before and I'd be very surprised if they don't respond after this. To be fair, it was such a poor display that they can only improve. That's for both management and players.

BigMack (Cork) - Posts: 182 - 17/06/2018 16:30:14    2112292

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Bad day at the office for the management. To leave Dowling on and take Flanagan off was shocking. Flanagan should have been started full and Gillane in the corner. Dowling doesn't have the wheels for Championship. Over all Clare were way sharper. Morrisseys were both good. Sobering to see how limited some of the forwards were. Both Hegarty and Hayes looked like they were backs filling in today...and that's what they are. They haven't the nous for the forwards.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 17/06/2018 16:37:32    2112293

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Think poster who said praise management when it's due and likewise with criticism is right. We played this game on Clare's terms. We should have pushed up on their puck outs and forced them to go long where they couldn't compete with our halfbackline. That's just a basic. We should also have gone long on our own puck outs and trusted our half forward line to do what they have done all year. Also why play a sweeper ? That's Clare's game plan not ours. I also think playing Dowling before Gillane was a mistake and one that could have been rectified by bringing Dowling off before Mulcahy who should never have gone for a back and before Flanagan. Gillane Flanagan and Mulcahy have delivered time and again. That's the full forward line we should start for me. We are better than this but we won't improve if we don't rectify today's errors. We were well off the mark and no ponit trying to brush that under the carpet. Also agree with poster on Dempsey he simply hasn't done enough at any stage to merit his place.

welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 17/06/2018 16:44:27    2112295

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Poor day at the office..We can blame the successive games but whatever we were way off pace.Too many players have been blown up here over last few weeks and today were found wanting.we are not as good as posters were making us out to be after some fighting displays but equally we are not as poor as we appeared today.We can get back on horse with easy game next time out and then have crack off probably Kilkenny. Our defence bar Morrissey were destroyed and why was kelly not man marked.He had freedom of park and ran riot.

flyinghigh (Kerry) - Posts: 213 - 17/06/2018 16:47:11    2112297

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Thought both back lines done well giving the blows of Finn and Condon.Midfield did ok but forwards were non existent today.Never played the same style of hurling as last couple of matches.
Can't blame management for this.The one thing I would question John and Co on is why bring on D Dempsey.He has been very poor any time when brought on so far.Cant believe he is a better option than Pat Ryan who wasn't even a sub.Is this the NAP factor?Or am I jumping the gun.
Not so mad about the loss today but gutted with the way we lost.Seemed to abandoned the style of hurling we were playing.I know we are not out of Championship but to go to Clare and let them hammer us like that is very discouraging for a team we have high expectations for.Limerick ABU

meehan82 (Limerick) - Posts: 173 - 17/06/2018 17:20:10    2112307

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Our sideline had a nightmare, players will always have a off game but management didn't change anything, felt sorry for the lads,but our management we're shocking, felt like 2013 again, hopefully they will learn .

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 17/06/2018 17:44:57    2112312

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Replying To welpastit:  "Think poster who said praise management when it's due and likewise with criticism is right. We played this game on Clare's terms. We should have pushed up on their puck outs and forced them to go long where they couldn't compete with our halfbackline. That's just a basic. We should also have gone long on our own puck outs and trusted our half forward line to do what they have done all year. Also why play a sweeper ? That's Clare's game plan not ours. I also think playing Dowling before Gillane was a mistake and one that could have been rectified by bringing Dowling off before Mulcahy who should never have gone for a back and before Flanagan. Gillane Flanagan and Mulcahy have delivered time and again. That's the full forward line we should start for me. We are better than this but we won't improve if we don't rectify today's errors. We were well off the mark and no ponit trying to brush that under the carpet. Also agree with poster on Dempsey he simply hasn't done enough at any stage to merit his place."
One hundred percent agree with all of that. Management have managed to take Flanagan out of his vein of form by putting him in the corner. Corner is totally different than full. Clare were delighted to see Dowling start. Limerick played to Clare's strengths today. Kinnerk was poor on the sideline today.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 17/06/2018 17:55:20    2112320

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