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Replying To longtermfan:  "Leonard Enright one of the greats of Limerick Hurling."
An outstanding full back and athlete. A very nice man who worked for many years with my Dad in Mary I. My best wishes to him as well.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 13/06/2018 11:18:00    2110924

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Replying To TreatyBoy:  "If anyone is looking for tickets for the Clare match I have two spare for the east terrace."
I'll take them please if still available

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 13/06/2018 12:58:05    2111004

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Replying To WhipOnTheBall:  "With the utmost respect i think that Tony Browne is talking Rubbish as regards waterfords Games going to wexford park or Nowlan Park . it is not my fault that waterford havent developed their ground so why should i have to go all the way to wexford park when limk are playing waterford Can you even imagine Clare supporters from the top of Clare having to go down to wex park all because of waterfords lack of facilities
. As i have said previously i took no joy in knocking out waterford on sunday as they would be my second favourite team in Munster after Limerick so i am not anti waterford or anything but Waterford county board need to get their own house in order and stop expecting every other counties to make allowances for them .
Their own supporters were very thin on the ground for the tipp and limk games so how many of them would go all the way to wexford park to shout on the Deise
. i was also disappointed to hear about Dan the Man getting Abuse on sunday . He was a great player on his day and the limerick supporters that abused him arent proper GAA people and have no business going to matches if this is the way they behave . Go down the pub with your mates , talk your sh**e to them and watch the game there and stop giving Limerick supporters a bad name ."
Well i understand that it probably cannot happen but as a matter of fact Nowlan Prk is roughly the same distance as Waterford is from most parts of Limerick and Clare- I agree the Wexford Park suggestion was probably tongue in cheek.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 13/06/2018 14:15:35    2111059

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Replying To Seeking_silver:  "I'll take them please if still available"
That's no problem they're yours. Accidentally bought an extra pair on tickets.ie Can you pm on this website?

TreatyBoy (Limerick) - Posts: 109 - 13/06/2018 17:48:41    2111178

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I find it baffling that every time Limerick win a championship match that supportors, media and pundits describe the victory as heart/passion shown yet if another county win a championship match its down to there skill levels, fitness, scoring power etc. It really down grades our team from my point of view. We scored 2-26 last weekend. 0-28 with 14 men the week before. The scores we are putting up and some of the hurling displayed is outstanding. Its about time our supporters stopped comparing us to Munster Rugby. We have class all over the field. Why don't we have a mindset in this county like Kilkenny/ Tipperary/ cork etc have. Stop degrading our team with this heart and passion talk. There is more in this team than just that.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 13/06/2018 21:19:40    2111269

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Well i understand that it probably cannot happen but as a matter of fact Nowlan Prk is roughly the same distance as Waterford is from most parts of Limerick and Clare- I agree the Wexford Park suggestion was probably tongue in cheek."
Are you mad? Your geography is dodgy. Nowlan Park is much much closer to waterford than Limerick or Clare.

PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 13/06/2018 21:44:47    2111286

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Replying To brud:  "I find it baffling that every time Limerick win a championship match that supportors, media and pundits describe the victory as heart/passion shown yet if another county win a championship match its down to there skill levels, fitness, scoring power etc. It really down grades our team from my point of view. We scored 2-26 last weekend. 0-28 with 14 men the week before. The scores we are putting up and some of the hurling displayed is outstanding. Its about time our supporters stopped comparing us to Munster Rugby. We have class all over the field. Why don't we have a mindset in this county like Kilkenny/ Tipperary/ cork etc have. Stop degrading our team with this heart and passion talk. There is more in this team than just that."
I think there are fairly obvious reasons that Limerick supporters don't have the same mindset as those of the 3 counties that gave won close to 200 All Irelands between them. Only a winning tradition breeds that mindset.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 979 - 13/06/2018 21:54:29    2111296

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Replying To brud:  "I find it baffling that every time Limerick win a championship match that supportors, media and pundits describe the victory as heart/passion shown yet if another county win a championship match its down to there skill levels, fitness, scoring power etc. It really down grades our team from my point of view. We scored 2-26 last weekend. 0-28 with 14 men the week before. The scores we are putting up and some of the hurling displayed is outstanding. Its about time our supporters stopped comparing us to Munster Rugby. We have class all over the field. Why don't we have a mindset in this county like Kilkenny/ Tipperary/ cork etc have. Stop degrading our team with this heart and passion talk. There is more in this team than just that."
Agree with you 100% but let them off. Keep us nicely under the radar and let them talk up galway cork Clare etc. It has everything to do with us not winning an AI in 45 years but nevertheless let them off.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 13/06/2018 21:55:02    2111297

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Are you mad? Your geography is dodgy. Nowlan Park is much much closer to waterford than Limerick or Clare."
Please read that again. I think I said Kilkenny was about the distance from Clare and Limerick, as both those counties are from Waterford. If the game is a home game for Waterford why should thy have to worry about how far people from other counties have to travel, especially since there is no significant difference in journeying from Limerick and Clare to Kilkenny or Waterford

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 13/06/2018 22:23:15    2111311

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Replying To PeggyShippen:  "Are you mad? Your geography is dodgy. Nowlan Park is much much closer to waterford than Limerick or Clare."
Waterford is 79.4 miles from Limerick City. Kilkenny is 82 miles from Limerick and Nowlan Park is far easier to get out of than Walsh Park and has a greater capacity that Cusack Park.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 13/06/2018 22:29:06    2111314

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Replying To daveboy:  "Agree with you 100% but let them off. Keep us nicely under the radar and let them talk up galway cork Clare etc. It has everything to do with us not winning an AI in 45 years but nevertheless let them off."
I agree it suits us to stay under the radar and keep the pressure of the players. Going back to my point tho even if you compare us to Waterford ( 1959 last all-ireland win I think or close enough ) whenever Waterford down the years win championship games people don't describe there victories with the words heart/passion. Its ridiculous in Limerick we are so stuck in this mindset. We had a player that put a sideline over from 50 yards last Sunday and not a mention of it.

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 13/06/2018 22:37:34    2111321

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Replying To brud:  "I agree it suits us to stay under the radar and keep the pressure of the players. Going back to my point tho even if you compare us to Waterford ( 1959 last all-ireland win I think or close enough ) whenever Waterford down the years win championship games people don't describe there victories with the words heart/passion. Its ridiculous in Limerick we are so stuck in this mindset. We had a player that put a sideline over from 50 yards last Sunday and not a mention of it."
Good point. Limerick do get tarred with that historical "Limerick style of play" which i agree with you is frustrating. I don't however feel it comes from within the county I feel it's more national. In essence it's just lazy journalism from people that may not have their homework done on limerick with their eyes focused elsewhere. It used to drive me mad but I realised that it's because they will not pay attention until we win on the national stage and I've come to terms with that fact. I and a lot of others including yourself know exactly what type of hurling limerick play now and it's a very good brand of hurling married with an incredible level of physicality and work rate. It's the best hurling I've seem in a long long time from limerick. There is a method and a clear direction executed very well by all involved. It's a pleasure watching this team so far this year.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 13/06/2018 23:00:09    2111333

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Replying To brud:  "I agree it suits us to stay under the radar and keep the pressure of the players. Going back to my point tho even if you compare us to Waterford ( 1959 last all-ireland win I think or close enough ) whenever Waterford down the years win championship games people don't describe there victories with the words heart/passion. Its ridiculous in Limerick we are so stuck in this mindset. We had a player that put a sideline over from 50 yards last Sunday and not a mention of it."
Lads I am sorry to say....but Limerick are not flying under any radars. You are being talked about as the form team of the championship and internally the bandwagon is in full flight.

If you think Clare are more hyped than Limerick you are disillusion.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 14/06/2018 05:56:00    2111367

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Replying To brud:  "I find it baffling that every time Limerick win a championship match that supportors, media and pundits describe the victory as heart/passion shown yet if another county win a championship match its down to there skill levels, fitness, scoring power etc. It really down grades our team from my point of view. We scored 2-26 last weekend. 0-28 with 14 men the week before. The scores we are putting up and some of the hurling displayed is outstanding. Its about time our supporters stopped comparing us to Munster Rugby. We have class all over the field. Why don't we have a mindset in this county like Kilkenny/ Tipperary/ cork etc have. Stop degrading our team with this heart and passion talk. There is more in this team than just that."
Agreed, it can be slightly irritating but hey if that motivates the guys to go out and perform even better than the last game. I do think it is disrespectful of the players and management that they don't get the credit from pundits but I'll be happy to see them call Limerick terrible or poor or an okish team so long as they go out and keep up the standard that they have set this season.

Gavin94 (Limerick) - Posts: 77 - 14/06/2018 09:16:30    2111384

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Replying To Gavin94:  "Agreed, it can be slightly irritating but hey if that motivates the guys to go out and perform even better than the last game. I do think it is disrespectful of the players and management that they don't get the credit from pundits but I'll be happy to see them call Limerick terrible or poor or an okish team so long as they go out and keep up the standard that they have set this season."
I would agree with that. I'm not seeking any recognition or platitudes from the pundits for Limericks capabilities or style. That will come if we keep winning anyway so don't fret about it. The team (and county) need to keep the focus on the next match and not get too high or low depending on the result next Sunday. We have a good panel of players with a very bright future but we need to stay patient.

I think there is more pressure on Clare with regard to this game. Their U21 teams since the 3 in a row are very weak so if they want to win big - they need to do it now and they're at home. Limerick are already in bonus territory relative to expectations at the start of the campaign having gotten ahead of promotion from 1B ahead of Galway and subsequently having come through the round robin. Remember that we were ranked last of the Munster counties in 2017 so the trajectory is good.

All that said, I expect that Limerick will win in Ennis but I don't expect it to be easy. I'm also conflicted by the result as the worst case scenario is to lose the Munster final (not to come 3rd).

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 14/06/2018 10:57:52    2111416

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Replying To Dealer:  "I would agree with that. I'm not seeking any recognition or platitudes from the pundits for Limericks capabilities or style. That will come if we keep winning anyway so don't fret about it. The team (and county) need to keep the focus on the next match and not get too high or low depending on the result next Sunday. We have a good panel of players with a very bright future but we need to stay patient.

I think there is more pressure on Clare with regard to this game. Their U21 teams since the 3 in a row are very weak so if they want to win big - they need to do it now and they're at home. Limerick are already in bonus territory relative to expectations at the start of the campaign having gotten ahead of promotion from 1B ahead of Galway and subsequently having come through the round robin. Remember that we were ranked last of the Munster counties in 2017 so the trajectory is good.

All that said, I expect that Limerick will win in Ennis but I don't expect it to be easy. I'm also conflicted by the result as the worst case scenario is to lose the Munster final (not to come 3rd)."
Dont worry about the pundits i.e des cahill and the like , the limk /wat match wasnt covered by any tv channell live last sun as far as i know and it barely got a slot on the sunday game on sunday night as they were more concerned with the football . After the highlights of the limk/wat game limk barely got a mention again and it was all about watfd and what went wrong but you know what take no notice , all we hear is limericks PHYSICALITY and thats it , no mention of the skill levels involved in winning but let them think what they like , if we carry on playing the way we are playing i will be one happy man and lets see how far limericks " PHYSICALITY " can take us .
Although it would be nice to win a Munster final thats if we get there as i expect it to be a mighty battle with an excellent clare team that are improving game by game , would it be better to go the other route and come in to the All ire quarter finals with no one watching us or taking us seriously .
i think the Muns Final is on July 1st but i dont know when the AI semi final is on and is there a big gap again between those two matches which sometimes is a hinderance more than anything to a team on a roll .
This team could do with as many matches in Croker as possible so maybe the long route via a joe mcdonagh team , followed by a quarter final might be better in the long run .
Galway , wex and kk are well used to croker but we are notand this is a young team so the extra games up there for us might be no harm but having said all that i am like you dealer that i am conflicted as to what would be best for Limk as a Munster Title would also be Nice but if it dosent happen then it might be a blessing in disguise... Does anyone even remember who the current Munster Champions are ? so in the scale of things the big prize is what matters .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 14/06/2018 11:38:47    2111434

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Replying To WhipOnTheBall:  "Dont worry about the pundits i.e des cahill and the like , the limk /wat match wasnt covered by any tv channell live last sun as far as i know and it barely got a slot on the sunday game on sunday night as they were more concerned with the football . After the highlights of the limk/wat game limk barely got a mention again and it was all about watfd and what went wrong but you know what take no notice , all we hear is limericks PHYSICALITY and thats it , no mention of the skill levels involved in winning but let them think what they like , if we carry on playing the way we are playing i will be one happy man and lets see how far limericks " PHYSICALITY " can take us .
Although it would be nice to win a Munster final thats if we get there as i expect it to be a mighty battle with an excellent clare team that are improving game by game , would it be better to go the other route and come in to the All ire quarter finals with no one watching us or taking us seriously .
i think the Muns Final is on July 1st but i dont know when the AI semi final is on and is there a big gap again between those two matches which sometimes is a hinderance more than anything to a team on a roll .
This team could do with as many matches in Croker as possible so maybe the long route via a joe mcdonagh team , followed by a quarter final might be better in the long run .
Galway , wex and kk are well used to croker but we are notand this is a young team so the extra games up there for us might be no harm but having said all that i am like you dealer that i am conflicted as to what would be best for Limk as a Munster Title would also be Nice but if it dosent happen then it might be a blessing in disguise... Does anyone even remember who the current Munster Champions are ? so in the scale of things the big prize is what matters ."
There will be a four week gap between the Munster Final and the All Ireland Semi final. Both semi finals are on the same weekend in July. There will be no games in Croke Park until the semi finals.

Before there was nearly a disadvantage winning Munster or a perceived disadvantage because you might play two games and have a six week break, but this year you are guaranteed four games to win Munster and a four week break, also the break between winning Leinster and the All Ireland semi final never affected Kilkenny...

This team will certainly want to win Munster and keep their unbeaten record going.

noexpert (Limerick) - Posts: 91 - 14/06/2018 12:30:51    2111460

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Where are Limerick being hard done by or not getting credit? All the newspapers, the columnists, radio have Limerick as the form team along with Galway. All of them mention Limerick's physicality but also their skill levels. I think a few here are being a bit sensitive. Limerick have gotten plenty of praise at this stage. Against Tipp no, but now they have. We are second favourites for the All Ireland!

I think Limerick will not be beaten in Ennis which gives them a munster final at home vs Cork. Limerick will be favourites and rightly so and I'd expect them to win that.

limerick_lass (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 14/06/2018 12:51:09    2111472

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Lads I am sorry to say....but Limerick are not flying under any radars. You are being talked about as the form team of the championship and internally the bandwagon is in full flight.

If you think Clare are more hyped than Limerick you are disillusion."
You are spot on. I live in Clare and hurling folk here regard Limerick as a really serious outfit.

As for the analysts. It is true some of them rate Limerick only as a fire and belly team. However, these lads just don't know their hurling and so I would not be too put out by them.

Fair to say that the all the top notch pundits , the ones who matter, are now assessing Limerick as a big, physical, skilful, fit and brilliantly coached side.

Finally, in terms of nice things being said about us, we should be careful what we wish for.
The spectacular semi-final collapse against Clare in 2013 is in part explained by getting sucked in to the hype and the jamboree.
The camp knows this time round the lower the profile the better.

Luimneach abú!

beirbua (Limerick) - Posts: 188 - 14/06/2018 16:11:49    2111553

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Replying To limerick_lass:  "Where are Limerick being hard done by or not getting credit? All the newspapers, the columnists, radio have Limerick as the form team along with Galway. All of them mention Limerick's physicality but also their skill levels. I think a few here are being a bit sensitive. Limerick have gotten plenty of praise at this stage. Against Tipp no, but now they have. We are second favourites for the All Ireland!

I think Limerick will not be beaten in Ennis which gives them a munster final at home vs Cork. Limerick will be favourites and rightly so and I'd expect them to win that."
let the pundits think what they want i just want Limk to keep doing what they are doing as its the most exciting brand of hurling i have seen in many a year following Limerick so keep it up i say . i have come home from limk matches in the past scratching my head wondering where are we going or what are we at and seeing no hope for the future but
there is an intelligence to Limericks play now and the players are looking up and finding team mates in a better positions and not going for Greedy scores from impossible angles and long Hail Mary efforts , also the sideline are more ruthless and if you are not doing the business you get the curly finger and off you come , also reputations and past performances count for nothing which is great to see from JK and his back room team , so keep it going Lads its great stuff to watch and if we come up short playing this way then so be it .
i know the last time we played cork was in 2014 in the last Muns Final before " the park " was done up so by right Cork should play us in the GG with the home and away arrangement as you said but is it different now because of the new format , would the game be in a neutral venue ie probably Thurles , ... but thats for another day lets focus on Clare for the moment .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 14/06/2018 16:12:36    2111554

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