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I am not complaining, I am concerned going forward and believe we will have much bigger challenges going forward,the best players will have to be selected, an obvious example is the non selection of Mick Casey. It is important that we win the next game when we will have the advantage of the two week break, other teams will have that advantage later. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 22/05/2018 21:34:54 2103125 Link 0 |
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would I be wrong in saying Finn was full back at times? there may not be a specific fullback but 3 full back man markers picking up specific forwards where ever they may be blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 23/05/2018 02:31:37 2103170 Link 0 |
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You can still improve a team even after a good victory. The Na Piarsaigh guys are more accurate in general than most of the other guys in the squad. Gillanes 2 missed frees were pretty poor. I'd have a little concern with his free taking but obviously not his general play which is top class. I'd bring on Dowling in the forwards before most to be honest. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 23/05/2018 08:27:25 2103178 Link 0 |
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Think its easy enough to see that Tipp underestimated Limerick on Sunday . They felt they could still get the victory with 5 new lads on the team and that they could rest the big players for later matches . By doing that , Tipp looked like a team who were totally disorganised and didnt know what they were doing . greenbean (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 23/05/2018 13:44:21 2103272 Link 0 |
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You all seem to know more than the management team which I find amazing. I was at 5 of the League games and I thought Hickey did OK at full back. Yes he did give away a lot of unnecessary frees. But this is his first championship game at full back for new management. It's not his natural position so I can certainly understand his over exuberance - especially with Jason Forde at FF. You cannot say full backline we're poor during league. Ok two goals against Tipp one of which was Nicky's fault. Maybe Seamie brings a balance and maturity with his instructions - who knows only management and team? We are not conceding big scores so on balance FB line is doing well. But like the forwards cutting down on bad misses, Hickey needs to cut down on bad frees. Mike Casey may start FB in Cork but after all he has 20min county senior hurling there!!!! Tipp did have two goal attempts in the last few minutes. One was very close and hit the side netting Nicky saved another. Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 23/05/2018 13:51:05 2103276 Link 0 |
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The first sentence of my answer leaves the decision with the selectors, so I never said I knew more than management.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4501 - 23/05/2018 14:57:21 2103295 Link 1 |
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Exactly what I have been saying since February. He is not a natural full back. He is a mile off the pace there. Look at what Peter Duggan did on him and Duggan hardly hit a ball last Sunday. Casey English and McCarthy are all proven more suited to the position. I dont believe anyone is saying that Hickey is not good enough to be on the team I'm certainly not but he is nowhere near the level required to be an intercounty full back. Last Sunday was merely the straw that broke the camels back. I'm stunned it took management so long to see what most on here (plse read posts before attacking that Mr you know who) have known for quite some time. Between poor marking and frees he was directly accountable for concerding at least 1-5 last Sunday. RTE panel said he was keeping Tipp in the game and he did exactly that against a poor Clare team also. Time to call it as it is.
welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 24/05/2018 07:44:50 2103441 Link 0 |
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I don't know if the goal would have been prevented by another full back but definitely the fouls kept Tipp closer than the should have been in the first half. I do think management were right to go with the league team last Sunday but as was said here before the team will evolve over the next 3 games and hopefully the "real" team will be known for the knockout games (if we get there).
Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 980 - 24/05/2018 11:12:01 2103496 Link 0 |
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It's a 25 man panel and Hickey is an important member. He's not a relation to a full back though. Imagine the great Brian Lohan jumping in like a kid every time the ball comes in. It wouldn't happen...embarrassing. Hickey is a ball player and can't hold off going for the tackle. It's pointless rehashing all this. I think Mike Casey deserves a start and it have no problem with Richie 'chunky' McCarthy or Richie English starting full either. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 24/05/2018 21:27:19 2103685 Link 0 |
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Not defending Hickey too much but full back is a specialist position and its like a goalkeepers job in the sense that if you make a mistake , you are punished heavily as everyone can see it but players out the field can get away with mistakes as it isnt as noticeable and as costly . The second goal ( jason forde ) came in over our number 2 who had his hurley in the air and misjudged the flight of the ball and jason forde got the ball in his hand and buried it but forde was first to the ball ahead of hickey but the corner back has to take some blame aswell . when mike casey came on there was a steadiness to the defence and everyone seemed to have cooler heads and this is really what you need in the heat of battle so i think Hickey at full back has ran its course but where would he fit in ? , some on here say wing back so that means dropping Byrnes or Morrissey and both players have improved greatly game by game . we have plenty of midfield and forward options so i really dont know where Hickey can go so Maybe a place on the bench is his lot from now on and although he has been a great servant to limerick Hurling maybe his days are numbered in a limerick shirt at least the starting fifteen anyway WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 25/05/2018 10:13:33 2103745 Link 1 |
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Just to change the subject. We have a very strong panel. But to me if Nicky, Hannon, Cian or Hego were to get injured we would struggle to replace them. Discuss Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 25/05/2018 15:58:05 2103803 Link 0 |
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Id say they all could be replaced but Quaid and Hannon could be replaced slightly easier. Quads puck outs weren't great and 3 went over the sideline. Hannon was very good but I'd say Hayes is the more natural centre back. PeggyShippen (Limerick) - Posts: 300 - 25/05/2018 16:16:14 2103805 Link 0 |
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Barry Hennessy is a decent keeper. Kyle Hayes would do a job at no. 6 Kevin Downes for Hegarty. Lynch is the hardest but possibly Colin Ryan in midfield. We've a strong panel in other words. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1108 - 25/05/2018 16:34:46 2103814 Link 0 |
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Well if he turns out much better than Walter Walsh he can expect multiple All Stars and Player of the Year awards. Walter Walsh is an outstanding hurler who would start on every top county team in the country. Gearoid Hegarty is a good young player starting out his senior intercounty career. Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 980 - 25/05/2018 18:23:22 2103833 Link 0 |
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I admire Hickey but I do think he should be replaced for the Cork game the other worry I have is Nicky Quaid who is beginning to make mistakes more regularly and I think his puckouts were poor the last day and I feel he hasn't been playing well since last years game against Clare. I also agree about Gillane, he is a class act but in a really close game I would be worried about his free taking. skule111 (Limerick) - Posts: 119 - 25/05/2018 21:50:24 2103868 Link 0 |
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I'd agree re your comments on gillane but can't on quaid I know he put a few puck outs over the line but other than that I felt he was longer than normal
someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 26/05/2018 00:22:43 2103893 Link 0 |
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I'd play hickey halfback against cork with byrnes and Hannon. brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 26/05/2018 08:50:35 2103906 Link 0 |
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I cant understand why people are criticizing Quaid. Is it based on one game ? All year his puck outs are 90% improved on previous years. Very rarely do Limerick place puck outs to contested areas, Nicky's accuracy and the movement of our half forward line mean the puck outs are now going to open space and being won by Limerick forwards. I can recall three clear instances in the game v Tipp. This is one of the reasons for the puck outs going over the line. All year we have been very accurate in restarts , but typical , when one or two go astray , call for the head.
bren222 (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 26/05/2018 09:08:03 2103913 Link 0 |
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Reading the posts, one notices the the air of confidence that is begining to build regarding this team and I agree. Yes things are going in the right direction. Back in division 1A having beaten the reigning all Ireland champions achieved in early Spring and having dispatched Tipperary in championship, all in all a good year so far. Alot done more to do. Pundits might not give us the credit we feel we are due but lets call a spade a spade. We beat a disjointed Tipp team in the Gaelic grounds. In my opinion the big test will be next Sunday, beat Cork in their own back yard and then we will be on the radar big time and credit will have to be given. Personally I dont care if we are underdogs for the entire season. will this team come of age this year? I hope so and believe they will account well for themselves. No matter at what stage we depart the championship we are in a good place, the squad is young, current u21 and minor look promising and the club game is strong. paddyG (Galway) - Posts: 90 - 26/05/2018 10:43:25 2103937 Link 0 |
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Looking at big picture, after this weekend we will have a good indication of Munster matters, but lets not forget the other big game Galway V Kilkenny. Are Galway still suffering the hangover, are Kilkenny building fast enough for this year. What an opportunity. Do we dare dream............. paddyG (Galway) - Posts: 90 - 26/05/2018 10:55:33 2103940 Link 0 |