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Replying To Dealer:  "My realistic expectation is that Limerick will get 7 All Stars.

I expect that Murphy will be in goals (mainly because of Limerick)
We should get both corner backs with Burke at full back. I think the full back line is nailed on.
Declan will be at 6 along with Mannion. It's then a battle between Byrnes and Morrissey for the remaining spot and that's a very tight call.
Cian is nailed in at midfield. I reckon Fitzgibbon will get the nod ahead of Burke alongside him but that's a tight call.
Obviously Canning will be at center forward. I think Tom Morrissey and Peter Duggan are also nailed in on that line.
The full forward line will include Conlon and I expect to see Harmedy there as well. It's then a battle between the 3 Limerick lads for the last spot and I fancy Mulcahy for it as he was consistent throughout the entire year plus he got the score that won the All Ireland. To be frank, if I was picking a team tomorrow to play for me, Aaron Gillane would be one of the first players on the sheet but I'd agree that Mul deserves the All Star on this occasion. I'm certain Gillane will win a number of them in the future.

POY is probably between the Galway boys unless they split the vote because Cian Lynch did have a marvelous season.
Kyle Hayes has got to get the YPOY award is is unlucky to be up against Canning at No11 for the All Star. There was some talk about Fitzgibbon getting YPOY ahead of Kyle but a poor performance by him in the U21 final should have ended any prospect of that utter injustice transpiring."
Great posts here recently by Dealer and a few others on here recently.... says it all!

Almost a month on and sense of combined disbelief and elation at winning the All Ireland continues.

Great to win given that I (along with many other) considered it a winning season after getting in of 1B.

Victory is a even a little sweeter, knowing that we beat previous year's champions . whether they be Galway, Tipp or Kilkenny or ….

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 15/09/2018 15:38:23    2141878

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On Graeme Mulcahy, "best of goods in small packages"

Work ethic, and perseverance in "scrambling" that first goal over the line, was single expression of commitment displayed by entire team all year long, or coolness personified collective sigh of relief he brought to Limerick fans everywhere in slotting over that point.
Let pundits and RTE "experts say what they will, this was All-Star, Hurler of the Year, all in one..
If we had an award for Surprise Player of the Year ...Best Comeback Player of the Year or (you name it )
Reminded here of "best of goods in small packages"

Graeme is it … Well done Graeme and Thank You!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 15/09/2018 15:51:47    2141881

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "On Graeme Mulcahy, "best of goods in small packages"

Work ethic, and perseverance in "scrambling" that first goal over the line, was single expression of commitment displayed by entire team all year long, or coolness personified collective sigh of relief he brought to Limerick fans everywhere in slotting over that point.
Let pundits and RTE "experts say what they will, this was All-Star, Hurler of the Year, all in one..
If we had an award for Surprise Player of the Year ...Best Comeback Player of the Year or (you name it )
Reminded here of "best of goods in small packages"

Graeme is it … Well done Graeme and Thank You!"
The fact that Graeme Mulcahy was not nominated for POTY makes a total mockery of these awards, as big a joke as the failure to give an All Star to John Galvin in 2010. He was by far and away the most influential player in Limericks path to glory.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 15/09/2018 20:48:18    2141909

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "The fact that Graeme Mulcahy was not nominated for POTY makes a total mockery of these awards, as big a joke as the failure to give an All Star to John Galvin in 2010. He was by far and away the most influential player in Limericks path to glory."
Graeme had an outstanding year. He was ever present in his ability to set the tone both physically and on the board. His point in the final was beyond crucial. Lynch I felt had an excellent year also as did hannon. I still feel cian has a very high ceiling still in him as do the likes of Hayes flanagan finn and both caseys. Sometimes profile comes into play with nominations for these awards.

That said for me the best and most consistent limerick hurler all year was Richie English. He was outstanding in his man marking duties and was top level both aerially and on the floor. What set him apart this year from others was his composure and subsequent distribution of the ball when in possession. He rarely if ever gave the ball away. I'm a firm believer in the importance of having top top Hurlers in the corner back positions and you won't be successful without them. We are blessed with 2. Richie was never in contention but for me (as a man from a club rival of doon) was the best limerick hurler this year.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 15/09/2018 21:05:41    2141912

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id have to question the hurler of the yr at the moment,jamie barron was by far the best hurler on show last yr, the hype that surrounded galway coupled with the raw emotion of the very sad passing of the great tony keady .joe was given a handy hurler of the yr award,i reckon deep down joe knows he probably got a bit lucky,the sunday panel set the wheeles in motion when nearly all of the sunday game panel gave joe the nod.this yr joe has had a way better yr and probably deserves it.but going on last yrs award form i reckon cian lynch will get the nod,If i am been totally honest and i might get slated for saying this i dont think cian was even our best midfielder this yr DARRAGH O DONOVAN all the way for me,O donovan reminds me of gerry o connor of cork and newtownshandrum with the amount of ball he gets on to start attack after attack along with the hard running he gets through in a match.lynch has the flash flicks and touches the young fans firm favourite and very marketable, it wouldnt surprise me if cian gets it going by last yrs .why mul is not in the shake up ill never know. like galway in so many ways last yr with joe winning the award, it sets up cian lynch to be hurler of the yr on the night.

whatsleftref (Limerick) - Posts: 28 - 15/09/2018 22:40:39    2141925

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Replying To whatsleftref:  "id have to question the hurler of the yr at the moment,jamie barron was by far the best hurler on show last yr, the hype that surrounded galway coupled with the raw emotion of the very sad passing of the great tony keady .joe was given a handy hurler of the yr award,i reckon deep down joe knows he probably got a bit lucky,the sunday panel set the wheeles in motion when nearly all of the sunday game panel gave joe the nod.this yr joe has had a way better yr and probably deserves it.but going on last yrs award form i reckon cian lynch will get the nod,If i am been totally honest and i might get slated for saying this i dont think cian was even our best midfielder this yr DARRAGH O DONOVAN all the way for me,O donovan reminds me of gerry o connor of cork and newtownshandrum with the amount of ball he gets on to start attack after attack along with the hard running he gets through in a match.lynch has the flash flicks and touches the young fans firm favourite and very marketable, it wouldnt surprise me if cian gets it going by last yrs .why mul is not in the shake up ill never know. like galway in so many ways last yr with joe winning the award, it sets up cian lynch to be hurler of the yr on the night."
couldnt agree more, I was just thinking how Burke and lynch will get all stars even though dod was more effective than both of them. He never makes mistakes, always does the right thing, never panics. Is a great ball winner, the absolute glue of this limerick team. And it's not like hes some limited workhorse, hes got some magnificent scores from play and sidelines.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 16/09/2018 07:47:35    2141935

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Replying To whatsleftref:  "id have to question the hurler of the yr at the moment,jamie barron was by far the best hurler on show last yr, the hype that surrounded galway coupled with the raw emotion of the very sad passing of the great tony keady .joe was given a handy hurler of the yr award,i reckon deep down joe knows he probably got a bit lucky,the sunday panel set the wheeles in motion when nearly all of the sunday game panel gave joe the nod.this yr joe has had a way better yr and probably deserves it.but going on last yrs award form i reckon cian lynch will get the nod,If i am been totally honest and i might get slated for saying this i dont think cian was even our best midfielder this yr DARRAGH O DONOVAN all the way for me,O donovan reminds me of gerry o connor of cork and newtownshandrum with the amount of ball he gets on to start attack after attack along with the hard running he gets through in a match.lynch has the flash flicks and touches the young fans firm favourite and very marketable, it wouldnt surprise me if cian gets it going by last yrs .why mul is not in the shake up ill never know. like galway in so many ways last yr with joe winning the award, it sets up cian lynch to be hurler of the yr on the night."
if the people that give out the hurler and young hurler of the year awards this year are influenced by the sunday game panel then pauric Mannion is a cert for hurler of the year this year as every single one of them gave the nod to him , why ? i have no idea , average season is all he had in my eyes when for me hurler of the year was either joe canning or graham Mulcahy who never even got nominated in the first place . It makes me wonder who or how these nominations and final winners are picked in the first place . is it based on romance or actual hurling ability and contribution to the overall team effort , maybe somebody can enlighten me how the winners and nominations are worked out cause i cant figure it out .

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 17/09/2018 12:33:21    2142199

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Replying To WhipOnTheBall:  "if the people that give out the hurler and young hurler of the year awards this year are influenced by the sunday game panel then pauric Mannion is a cert for hurler of the year this year as every single one of them gave the nod to him , why ? i have no idea , average season is all he had in my eyes when for me hurler of the year was either joe canning or graham Mulcahy who never even got nominated in the first place . It makes me wonder who or how these nominations and final winners are picked in the first place . is it based on romance or actual hurling ability and contribution to the overall team effort , maybe somebody can enlighten me how the winners and nominations are worked out cause i cant figure it out ."
Agree completely for reasons you just mentioned , such as "romance" .
I don't give these e awards a whole lot of credence ..they are subjective at best.

Look forward to welcoming ,Cork to Gaelic Grounds in May 2019 . Doubtless they will be favorites and will lose only if the don't perform up to capability on the day.

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 17/09/2018 15:37:51    2142257

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Replying To PatOLogical:  "Agree completely for reasons you just mentioned , such as "romance" .
I don't give these e awards a whole lot of credence ..they are subjective at best.

Look forward to welcoming ,Cork to Gaelic Grounds in May 2019 . Doubtless they will be favorites and will lose only if the don't perform up to capability on the day."
The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.
Limerick are All Ireland champions. Cork are Munster champions. They played twice in championship 2018 and both games were draws.
Many posters on here picked Nicky Quaid's flick as the moment of the year. It certainly changed the outcome of that game.
Limerick will be slight favourites in May due to having home advantage. Your post may be a weak attempt at sarcasm but it has the scent of lemons.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 979 - 17/09/2018 21:33:10    2142314

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Replying To Westfester:  "The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.
Limerick are All Ireland champions. Cork are Munster champions. They played twice in championship 2018 and both games were draws.
Many posters on here picked Nicky Quaid's flick as the moment of the year. It certainly changed the outcome of that game.
Limerick will be slight favourites in May due to having home advantage. Your post may be a weak attempt at sarcasm but it has the scent of lemons."
Great observation kid! (Adjudicator incognito)


Probably should have pointed out that post was intended more for TV Analysis and Sunday game pundits for those who may not have noticed. Let me now add "and anyone else who wakes up every day with an "attitude for an argument."
Peace brother!

ps. possible early trains added from Limerick to Cork on the day.

Come On Ye Boys in Green in 19!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 17/09/2018 22:18:29    2142325

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Happened to stumble across a page from July last year where Richie Mc was being criticised. This years campaign clearly vindicated Richie and a few others. I always thought that Richie far too exposed. No matter what 20 players hit the field, unless they are well organised & coached they will be in trouble. Just as our lads exposed some of the best players in the country this year. Similarly, Graham Mulcahy showed when the correct ball (that we were all crying out for) is going into him he is dangerous. Imagine Declan Hannon in our inside forward line with the current set up!!

Seeking_silver (Limerick) - Posts: 411 - 18/09/2018 13:01:26    2142439

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I dare say this weekend is a crucial one for Adare and Ballybrown. Both teams have been poor in 1a of the senior this year and this weekend they playoff for the right to stay in 1a. I for one will be making the trip home to see this clash. How do people see this one going?

doubleginplease (Limerick) - Posts: 19 - 19/09/2018 12:24:22    2142666

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I've seen a lot of comments about the media coverage and reaction to the 2018 Limerick campaign. The overwhelming message for me is that most of the hurling commentators have not yet understood the capabilities of the Limerick team and I'm very happy about that. There are a few noteworthy exceptions such as Anthony Daly and Brendan Cummins. I think the penny has dropped with Michael Duignan and Daithi Regan as well but for the majority, the concept that Limerick have put together a potentially dominant team has not yet registered. The truly noteworthy exception is Nicky English who forecasted a Limerick - Galway final and that Cian Lynch could be Player of the Year before the championship started. That's scary good and I suspect that he made that forecast based on what he saw in Fitzgibbon hurling over the past few years.
I go back to the general reaction to the Tipp game. The view after the match is that Tipp underperformed because they picked the wrong team. I think that subsequent results backed up Mick Ryan's selection and that he picked the team based on what he was seeing from his players. Tipp lost the match because they weren't good enough to win - period.
The Cork match in the Pairc was an amazing game from Limerick who almost won despite climbing a steep slope. But even after that game, the media focus was mainly on Cork and what they needed to do to resolve their issues particularly with the spine of their defense. That came up as a major issue after the semifinal as well.
Limerick were blessed that the Waterford game wasn't televised so the extent of the victory wasn't clear. We then underperformed in Ennis which was a blessing in disguise because it facilitated Limerick into the All Ireland series as underdogs.
The match against KK resulted in a narrow victory but wasn't a blow-out either. It could and should have been but we missed 5 goals and made Eoghan Murphy in goals into a superstar.
Again, we weren't favorites against Cork who are reigning Munster champions and we were never going to be favorites against Galway which really suited us. However, many the comments after the game are about how Galway failed to perform and didn't deliver on the day. I agree that Galway failed to perform but much of that failure is because of how effectively Limerick played against them and would do so again in the future if we meet them again (which I expect will be the case).
I note that Galway are now favorites for the 2019 All Ireland which is fantastic but at some point, Limerick are going to have to learn how to deal with favoritism as our luck with the pundits can't last.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 19/09/2018 19:20:25    2142785

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Quite a few people on this thread, spoke about season tickets, earlier this summer. Email notice just arrived that renewals open next Monday 24th.
I presume that new season tickets holders will be able to purchase a few weeks later. So keep an eye on it. Same price as 2017 which is something positive. I expect that there will be a lot more Limerick holders in 2018 than the few hundred regulars up to now.
https://www.seasontickets.ie

ancientrush (Limerick) - Posts: 24 - 20/09/2018 17:15:20    2142966

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Replying To doubleginplease:  "I dare say this weekend is a crucial one for Adare and Ballybrown. Both teams have been poor in 1a of the senior this year and this weekend they playoff for the right to stay in 1a. I for one will be making the trip home to see this clash. How do people see this one going?"
Adare just about for me.

I think the senior club championship structure is farcial to be honest. The well will probably lose to na piarsaigh this weekend which would mean they still qualify for a Quarter final spot having lost 3 matches. There is no way you should still be in a competition after losing 3 times.

The old system of 16 teams - 4 groups of 4 was the way to go and gave the underdogs a chance. We saw teams like bruree, garryspillane, Croom etc cherish under that system.
The county board need to have a look at the system again

brud (Limerick) - Posts: 943 - 21/09/2018 09:51:26    2143107

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Replying To ancientrush:  "Quite a few people on this thread, spoke about season tickets, earlier this summer. Email notice just arrived that renewals open next Monday 24th.
I presume that new season tickets holders will be able to purchase a few weeks later. So keep an eye on it. Same price as 2017 which is something positive. I expect that there will be a lot more Limerick holders in 2018 than the few hundred regulars up to now.
https://www.seasontickets.ie"
Thanks for the heads up on that . i am definitely going to get one for myself and the son as i dont want to go through the begging process of looking for an All ireland Ticket like i did this year should we be lucky enough to be involved in the final in 2019 . i went to all the games last year from 30 dec back in mallow in the muns league so it will probably work out the same if not cheaper anyway . is there a Juvenile season ticket or do i have to get an adult one for my son ? , he is 15 but looks older . what does the season ticket entitle you to ?

WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 21/09/2018 11:00:20    2143127

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Replying To Dealer:  "I've seen a lot of comments about the media coverage and reaction to the 2018 Limerick campaign. The overwhelming message for me is that most of the hurling commentators have not yet understood the capabilities of the Limerick team and I'm very happy about that. There are a few noteworthy exceptions such as Anthony Daly and Brendan Cummins. I think the penny has dropped with Michael Duignan and Daithi Regan as well but for the majority, the concept that Limerick have put together a potentially dominant team has not yet registered. The truly noteworthy exception is Nicky English who forecasted a Limerick - Galway final and that Cian Lynch could be Player of the Year before the championship started. That's scary good and I suspect that he made that forecast based on what he saw in Fitzgibbon hurling over the past few years.
I go back to the general reaction to the Tipp game. The view after the match is that Tipp underperformed because they picked the wrong team. I think that subsequent results backed up Mick Ryan's selection and that he picked the team based on what he was seeing from his players. Tipp lost the match because they weren't good enough to win - period.
The Cork match in the Pairc was an amazing game from Limerick who almost won despite climbing a steep slope. But even after that game, the media focus was mainly on Cork and what they needed to do to resolve their issues particularly with the spine of their defense. That came up as a major issue after the semifinal as well.
Limerick were blessed that the Waterford game wasn't televised so the extent of the victory wasn't clear. We then underperformed in Ennis which was a blessing in disguise because it facilitated Limerick into the All Ireland series as underdogs.
The match against KK resulted in a narrow victory but wasn't a blow-out either. It could and should have been but we missed 5 goals and made Eoghan Murphy in goals into a superstar.
Again, we weren't favorites against Cork who are reigning Munster champions and we were never going to be favorites against Galway which really suited us. However, many the comments after the game are about how Galway failed to perform and didn't deliver on the day. I agree that Galway failed to perform but much of that failure is because of how effectively Limerick played against them and would do so again in the future if we meet them again (which I expect will be the case).
I note that Galway are now favorites for the 2019 All Ireland which is fantastic but at some point, Limerick are going to have to learn how to deal with favoritism as our luck with the pundits can't last."
I lik e all of this message and particularly How it s put across that sooner or later, Limerick will have to learn to deal with favorites tag, as they have not had to do so yet. Who knows , Cor may even be favorites with Micheal Duignan when they come to Gaelic Grounds next May as they will "probably have figured out what the y were doing wrong all along. ( Hidden message here from Michael of course, being Cork are the better team, because they were 25 years ago. )

In case you haven't noticed , Brave Michael, "tradition is contiually being reborn and renewed."

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 21/09/2018 19:18:55    2143193

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big Enough crowd at last nights dog night but all the kids - teenagers etc downstairs weren't allowed upstairs to restaurant to see the Limerick team where they stayed all night so lot of disappointed kids downstairs. They could get the picture with the cup downstairs alright but whilst one understands players must be fed up of homecomings more of an effort should have been made to mingle with all the kids and parents who travelled to support the night and it was sold as a night to meet the players .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 736 - 22/09/2018 09:16:00    2143226

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Replying To OpenStand:  "big Enough crowd at last nights dog night but all the kids - teenagers etc downstairs weren't allowed upstairs to restaurant to see the Limerick team where they stayed all night so lot of disappointed kids downstairs. They could get the picture with the cup downstairs alright but whilst one understands players must be fed up of homecomings more of an effort should have been made to mingle with all the kids and parents who travelled to support the night and it was sold as a night to meet the players ."
Can't say I would have an issue with the players being entitled to a night with themselves. They've made themselves very public for just over a month now, hard to argue with some privacy in public, kids will get their chance at club games etc as the months go on. also, I'm sure club/school visits will continue.

Garlicfootball (Limerick) - Posts: 71 - 22/09/2018 21:12:28    2143295

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So Nap in the driving seat after today's games. They flew out of the blocks against The Well and it's hard to see anybody getting near them. Doon won well against Kilmallock who may be thankful of an extra game, against Murroe Boher, but the Balbec were woeful today.

Garlicfootball (Limerick) - Posts: 71 - 23/09/2018 18:38:13    2143384

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