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Replying To Oldtourman: "I absolutely agree with you that Seamus Flanagan should have got MOTM on final day and you are right, his influence was sorely missed when he was taken off." Couldn't disagree with you more with man of the match.Have to ask did you watch the same match. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 04/09/2018 21:50:11 2139270 Link
If I could pick three highlights of an amazing campaign they'd be the following pivotal moments: 1) Tom Morrissey in Pairc Ui Caoimh on June 2nd dumping Daniel Kearney on his arse before rounding the stricken Cork player and thumping a huge score over the bar from the half way line when 14-man Limerick's plight looked forlorn towards the end of the first half. Sometimes a point is worth a lot more to a team than a single score and the noise that greeted Morrissey's galvanising point from the Limerick contingent in the North Stand was absolutely deafening. It was a score born out of sheer defiance and set the tone for a barnstorming second half by Limerick in what I still consider to be the match of the year. 2) Again, Tom Morrissey and his widely-documented wonder point v Kilkenny on July 15th in Thurles to put us in front during additional time. It was Careyesque. Enough said. 3) The 'Nick Flick'. Effin Hell for Harnedy in the All-Ireland semifinal on July 29th. The save of a lifetime from the Limerick goalie which was followed seconds later at the other end by a foul on Pat Ryan, leading to a Gillane free which appeared to have put us into the final. A save like the year itself, utterly magical. GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 04/09/2018 22:28:26 2139281 Link
Replying To cityman73: "Couldn't disagree with you more with man of the match.Have to ask did you watch the same match." I did and re watched it and I agree Kyle Hyle had a mighty game and indeed I have no real problem with him getting MOTM, but Flanagans contribution on a fully fit Daithi Burke was also huge. and if he had finished that goal chance it just have swung the award in his faour, and when he went off Galway did come more into the the game, and our forward division started to look more disjointed. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 05/09/2018 08:41:48 2139328 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "I absolutely agree with you that Seamus Flanagan should have got MOTM on final day and you are right, his influence was sorely missed when he was taken off." 100% i watched the full match twice since and i taught himself and darragh donovan were outstanding against galway....flanagan looked super. munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1138 - 05/09/2018 12:00:25 2139402 Link
Replying To munsterchamps: "100% i watched the full match twice since and i taught himself and darragh donovan were outstanding against galway....flanagan looked super." Hey before i say this, i agree Flanagan had a good game, but did you count how many times he lost possession? how many times his mistake led to a score for galway - i definetly think 3 points! watch it again. yes he scored and yes he harrased. so i am just stating that while he did play well, he was no MOTM .. too many mistakes. and to be honest I would have taken him off before hegerty and i feel if Na Piar players are there in 2019 from january then he will have a big battle with downes for number 14 and i am siding with downes on getting it! JohnMcArthur (Limerick) - Posts: 50 - 05/09/2018 15:59:43 2139537 Link
Replying To munsterchamps: "i know its great to get out of 1b but i think thats the place to be to get ready for the minefield that is the munster championship.....playing tipp cork kilkenny clare and wexford in the league and then face into the quick succession of games in munster is tough going......the last 2 all ireland champions have come from 1b. being in 1b lets you build slowly for the championship without ever having to get onto top gear." You have a very good point , the fixtures for the league are out already starting in jan 27 against wex in wex park followed by limk v tipp in GG on feb 2 then kk v limk in nolan park on feb 17 , limk v cork in GG on feb 23/24 and having to go to cusack park on march 3 against clare No easy games here but this is where we as supporters and also JK and the panel/ team wanted limk to be so now we will have to get on with it . The thing about 1A as i see it , is you cant really experiment too much as if you lose a couple of matches you could be in a dogfight to stay in 1A so limk nearly need to win at least 3 games to stay in 1A . . Going to wex park , nolan park and of course cusack park for our final game is a tough campaign but they will have our full support . i wonder if JK will bother with the Munster League this year or will he use that to try out new players not that we need any but i am sure there are a few on the fringes chomping at the bit to get on the panel . i remember back in Mallow last christmas watching them against cork and i could never have dreamt we would win an All ire but by god am i one happy and proud Limerick man after the brilliant year our senior hurlers gave us and here is hoping for more of the same next year ...Luimneach Abu WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 05/09/2018 16:09:39 2139544 Link
Here are the provisional hurling league fixtures for 2019 Wednesday, September 05, 2018 - 12:32 PM Limerick will start their 2019 League campaign with a trip to Wexford. The All-Ireland champions return to Division 1A for the first time in eight years and the provisional Allianz League fixtures have set them up against Wexford in January. League champions Kilkenny host Cork, while Clare will travel to face Tipperary on the opening weekend in the top division. The Division 1B fixtures have Galway playing host to Laois in the opening round. while newly promoted Carlow travel to Dublin and relegated Waterford host Offaly. Below are the provisional fixtures for Divisions 1A to 3B. Division 1A Saturday 26 January Tipperary v Clare, 7pm Sunday 27 January Kilkenny v Cork, 2pm Wexford v Limerick, 2pm Saturday 2 February Limerick v Tipperary, 7pm Sunday 3 February Clare v Kilkenny, 2pm Cork v Wexford, 2pm Saturday 16 February Cork v Clare, 7pm Sunday 17 February Kilkenny v Limerick, 2pm Wexford v Tipperary, 2pm Division 1B Saturday 26 January Dublin v Carlow, 7pm Sunday 27 January Waterford v Offaly, 2pm Galway v Laois, TBC Sunday 3 February Carlow v Galway, 2pm Laois v Waterford, 2pm Offaly v Dublin, 2pm Saturday 16 February Laois v Offaly, 7pm Waterford v Carlow, 7pm Sunday 17 February Galway v Dublin, 2pm WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 05/09/2018 17:45:02 2139580 Link
Replying To JohnMcArthur: "Hey before i say this, i agree Flanagan had a good game, but did you count how many times he lost possession? how many times his mistake led to a score for galway - i definetly think 3 points! watch it again. yes he scored and yes he harrased. so i am just stating that while he did play well, he was no MOTM .. too many mistakes. and to be honest I would have taken him off before hegerty and i feel if Na Piar players are there in 2019 from january then he will have a big battle with downes for number 14 and i am siding with downes on getting it!" You have got to be kidding. Flanagan will be Limericks full forward for a very long time. If there is a place for Downes it's in the half forward line. Hopefully his club will start playing him there and he will get his chance in the league. For me only he and Peter Casey are only Na Piarsaigh players that have a chance of making the starting 15 next year. We need at least 2 or 3 new players in our team if we are to have a chance next year. Teams that don't change don't generate the level of competition needed to go back to back . Players like C Ryan Paddy O Loughlin Pat Ryan Casey Downes and Nash need game time in the league. Hegarty could also be tried in the half backline. I'd gladly accept relegation if it resulted in a cut theist level of competition for places . welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 05/09/2018 19:13:18 2139613 Link
Replying To cityman73: "Couldn't disagree with you more with man of the match.Have to ask did you watch the same match." I posted earlier after watching it on tv that I thought Flanagan was a wrecking ball and had a massive influence on the play both directly and indirectly and for me would have been a justified motm contender. Not sure why you would think it such a crazy idea when he was clearly a key part of us winning the all Ireland. Would be interested To know why you would think that. For me his extreme movement work rate and tackling set the tone for victory. He always shows for the ball time and time again, never hides and his movement is intelligent too. He upsets not only his marker but entire defensive lines. He has a specific job to do for the team and does it brilliantly. In short he offers something other players can't. Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 433 - 05/09/2018 19:45:58 2139623 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "I posted earlier after watching it on tv that I thought Flanagan was a wrecking ball and had a massive influence on the play both directly and indirectly and for me would have been a justified motm contender. Not sure why you would think it such a crazy idea when he was clearly a key part of us winning the all Ireland. Would be interested To know why you would think that. For me his extreme movement work rate and tackling set the tone for victory. He always shows for the ball time and time again, never hides and his movement is intelligent too. He upsets not only his marker but entire defensive lines. He has a specific job to do for the team and does it brilliantly. In short he offers something other players can't." I never said he had a poor game,yes ye played well,but he wasn't man of the match,watch the match again,see what players do without the ball. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 05/09/2018 20:34:15 2139643 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "I did and re watched it and I agree Kyle Hyle had a mighty game and indeed I have no real problem with him getting MOTM, but Flanagans contribution on a fully fit Daithi Burke was also huge. and if he had finished that goal chance it just have swung the award in his faour, and when he went off Galway did come more into the the game, and our forward division started to look more disjointed." Fair enough,I think it was more to dowith the limerick backs coming off injured and not being able to bring on all the forwards that we done in the semi,that allowed Galway back in. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 05/09/2018 20:38:26 2139647 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "I did and re watched it and I agree Kyle Hyle had a mighty game and indeed I have no real problem with him getting MOTM, but Flanagans contribution on a fully fit Daithi Burke was also huge. and if he had finished that goal chance it just have swung the award in his faour, and when he went off Galway did come more into the the game, and our forward division started to look more disjointed." Flannagen has some potential. All his attributes, at 20 years old, are clear to see. But if he keeps improving his hurling levels and efficiency in front of goals, he could be some operator by the time he's, say 24. That's if he keeps working hard and is always motivated to improve. Could be a big star of the game. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 06/09/2018 08:53:31 2139720 Link
Replying To welpastit: "You have got to be kidding. Flanagan will be Limericks full forward for a very long time. If there is a place for Downes it's in the half forward line. Hopefully his club will start playing him there and he will get his chance in the league. For me only he and Peter Casey are only Na Piarsaigh players that have a chance of making the starting 15 next year. We need at least 2 or 3 new players in our team if we are to have a chance next year. Teams that don't change don't generate the level of competition needed to go back to back . Players like C Ryan Paddy O Loughlin Pat Ryan Casey Downes and Nash need game time in the league. Hegarty could also be tried in the half backline. I'd gladly accept relegation if it resulted in a cut theist level of competition for places ." @welpastit look i See all the good SF has done all year, but I was just highlighting that it wasnt a MOTM perfromance, I ask you , watch the match again and read my previous post before doing so, while yes he was energetic and showing for the ball, how many times did he lose it by either miss control/loose passing or by giving away a free? I agree he was the best option all year at 14 and was a main reason why we won Liam this year but I believe that he is not a nailed on Starter if KD can get back in! also on side note I cant wait to see Barry Nash and P Casey getting a run in the league next year. I would have concerns about our cover at the back, Tom Condon / Richie Mac wont be around forever - Who have we to come in? JohnMcArthur (Limerick) - Posts: 50 - 06/09/2018 09:08:19 2139726 Link
S.Flanagan had an excellent game but he only scored one point and had some wides, a forward needs to be scoring. It is my opinion that it should have been A.Gillane that should have been substituted and not S.Flanagean. fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 602 - 06/09/2018 13:47:45 2139820 Link
Replying To fainleog: "S.Flanagan had an excellent game but he only scored one point and had some wides, a forward needs to be scoring. It is my opinion that it should have been A.Gillane that should have been substituted and not S.Flanagean." S. Flanagean was injured that's why he had to come off thats why he wasnt playing with his club at the weekend. Id say tom condon will be retiring this year and i heard Richie Mac did his cruciate at a club match last weekend so i dont know who we have coming through to replace them Lakewood (Limerick) - Posts: 7 - 06/09/2018 15:42:57 2139846 Link
Replying To blackspot91: "Flannagen has some potential. All his attributes, at 20 years old, are clear to see. But if he keeps improving his hurling levels and efficiency in front of goals, he could be some operator by the time he's, say 24. That's if he keeps working hard and is always motivated to improve. Could be a big star of the game." Seamus Flanagan has reminded me all year of a raw Seamus Callinan. He has the potential to be as good if not better than Callinan. They both have size speed and a confidence that will make Flanagan a serious hurler in years to come. He could be anything and this year will be huge in his development. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 06/09/2018 19:55:16 2139941 Link
Replying To JohnMcArthur: "@welpastit look i See all the good SF has done all year, but I was just highlighting that it wasnt a MOTM perfromance, I ask you , watch the match again and read my previous post before doing so, while yes he was energetic and showing for the ball, how many times did he lose it by either miss control/loose passing or by giving away a free? I agree he was the best option all year at 14 and was a main reason why we won Liam this year but I believe that he is not a nailed on Starter if KD can get back in! also on side note I cant wait to see Barry Nash and P Casey getting a run in the league next year. I would have concerns about our cover at the back, Tom Condon / Richie Mac wont be around forever - Who have we to come in?" Playing Kevin Downes instead of Flanagan would mean a complete change in tactics. Not saying it couldn't work but Flanagan creates havoc for opposing defenses regardless of what he scores. Would the other forwards score as much if he wasn't playing? Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 433 - 06/09/2018 20:51:57 2139951 Link
Replying To Lakewood: "S. Flanagean was injured that's why he had to come off thats why he wasnt playing with his club at the weekend. Id say tom condon will be retiring this year and i heard Richie Mac did his cruciate at a club match last weekend so i dont know who we have coming through to replace them" There is some good young defenders around that I'd hope to see get some league game time. The likes of Fanning and Joy from 2017 u21 team. Tommy Grimes, can O laughlin play fullback? Jerome boylan etc. I think we also have some versatility at the back to shift things around is necessary. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 07/09/2018 02:05:03 2140006 Link
Replying To Fitzy01: "Playing Kevin Downes instead of Flanagan would mean a complete change in tactics. Not saying it couldn't work but Flanagan creates havoc for opposing defenses regardless of what he scores. Would the other forwards score as much if he wasn't playing?" i agree 100% that the other forwards wouldnt score as much if he wasnt playing so why anybody on here is even questioning seamus flanagan beats me . he ran 14 km against cork in puc and constantly drew out their back line out the field to create space for the two corner forwards inside . i was watching his runs for quaids puck outs and he sacrificed alot of energy to run out to the half forward wing in the hope of collecting the puckouts and took a back with him . some he collected and some went straight out over the sideline as quaids puckouts werent spot on all the time . The point he scored in the all ire final was just before half time where he got the ball on the wing and burned padraig mannion ( hurler of the year in some peoples eyes ) for pace and cut into a central position and scored a beauty . He is not perfect by any means as sometimes he trys to control the ball on the hurley when he recieves a pass and he sometimes loses control of it , when it would be easier to just catch the ball in the first place but having said that for what he does for the inside forward line by his sacrificial runs thereby creating space for mul and gillane then he is very beneficial to the team and chip in with a few points of his own aswell . its good to have options though and i am sure downes or dowling would fancy their chances at full forward also but i think only as an impact sub. WhipOnTheBall (Limerick) - Posts: 138 - 07/09/2018 08:37:35 2140021 Link
Replying To daveboy: "Seamus Flanagan has reminded me all year of a raw Seamus Callinan. He has the potential to be as good if not better than Callinan. They both have size speed and a confidence that will make Flanagan a serious hurler in years to come. He could be anything and this year will be huge in his development." Couldn't agree more as Flanagan looks and play's like a young Callanan and remember he took him 5/6 years to become the great forward he is today. If he learns to put away his goal chances especially he will be a superstar- he should have scored 2 against Kilkenny and 1 in the final. I think if he stays grounded and keeps up the work rate he will be doing a great job for us making space for the other forwards. How about Ronan Connolly from Adare as another back for Limerick in the near future, played centre back for Ard Scoil last year and has a similar building to Finn and Casey and the young Doon centre back Mickey O'Brien has a bit of a bite in him as well as the hurling. These 2 maybe a year away yet but they look promising updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 898 - 07/09/2018 10:18:40 2140056 Link