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I dont want to see Galway getting into any sort of lead at all I'd love to lead from start to finish but theyre not all irl champs for nothing so that'll be hard done i hope our lack of experience doesn't come into play i think the semi was a big help but still it wasn't a final

someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 10/08/2018 00:12:35    2131407

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Replying To someday:  "I dont want to see Galway getting into any sort of lead at all I'd love to lead from start to finish but theyre not all irl champs for nothing so that'll be hard done i hope our lack of experience doesn't come into play i think the semi was a big help but still it wasn't a final"
Looking forward to great game Limerick never better placed to win an AI iMO will match Galway in the physical stakes in Half Forward & Halfback.

For 55 minuted Galway scored 8 points 2 from sideline balls still won even though Clare outscored them 2.10/0.08 missed 19 wides one glaring goal chance .

For me if ye stop their quick starts will have great chance but they have great spirit & fight wont be easy but you would not want it any other way .

You really think that Limerick cant lose another one

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 982 - 10/08/2018 09:24:22    2131438

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Replying To clooney:  "Looking forward to great game Limerick never better placed to win an AI iMO will match Galway in the physical stakes in Half Forward & Halfback.

For 55 minuted Galway scored 8 points 2 from sideline balls still won even though Clare outscored them 2.10/0.08 missed 19 wides one glaring goal chance .

For me if ye stop their quick starts will have great chance but they have great spirit & fight wont be easy but you would not want it any other way .

You really think that Limerick cant lose another one"
Were Clare the only team to have wides that day? And what about missed goal chances by Galway also? Tuohy made a great save from Conor Cooney in the first half. Or how come I am not reading about Galway throwing the drawn match where we had 22 wides and missed 3 glaring goal opportunities. I am sick of reading about clare leaving the game behind when the fact of the matter is from those 19 wides - how many were actually scoreable? Take Peter Duggans line balls at very acute angles or Tony Kellys wide with the last puck of the game from his own 45 - were they hail mary shots that realistically had a chance of scoring? Galway were much the cuter team and had a lot of bad wides also.

Regarding the final - I wish it was any team but Limerick (similar to waterford last year) we had to beat. I had 4 great years in UL and Limerick is always my 2nd team once its not against Galway. I was in Croker in 96 and 07 supporting them. Obviously I am hoping for a Galway win, but if they are beaten I am glad it will be limerick winning. We know as well as any how heartbreaking it is to lose so many finals. Here is hoping to a good exciting close game that is incident free and with no controversy at the end. I hope it is a tight game and it is just a piece of brilliance that wins it for either team. And here is having plenty of banter with the Limerick fans before, during and after the game - at the end of the days thats what it is all about! On that note Gaillimh Abu!

jkiamasnake (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 10/08/2018 09:58:22    2131455

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Interesting panel discussion at the County Board fund raiser last night. Both Mullane and Liam Sheedy gave a tentative vote to Galway based on the fact that they are champions which I'm very happy about.

The general view though is that if the match is in the balance on 60 minutes that Limerick will push on and win. There's a lot of concern as to how we handle Glynn and will Burke follow Flanagan out the field when he moves out. They are both surprised at the extent of the confidence in Limerick and I have to say that I do believe that we're slightly downgrading Galway because of their inconsistencies against Clare and forgetting about their better qualities. The start is critical especially for Galway for the above reasons.

Everybody is very happy with Graeme Mulcahy's new girlfriend (she's getting all the credit for his upturn in form) and that Patrickswell need to play more football. (Gillane).

My own view is that Limerick will have the chances to win this game. My concern is whether we will take them. Regardless of the result, my expectation is that this Limerick team will become stronger in the future and that they're nowhere near their peak.

Dealer (Limerick) - Posts: 837 - 10/08/2018 10:30:19    2131470

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Everyone agrees if it's close with 15 minutes to go Limerick have the advantage because of our bench. For me then it's simple.We do all in our power by fair means or other to get to 55 mins with minimum between sides. If we set up as we have been all year we risk Galway racing into a lead. Why take that risk? We need to close up shop. Galway will launch an aerial attack with at least one other than Glynn inside. For Clare that was Cooney. Right now I'd drop Hannon back in front of Glynn and I'd send Finn after Mannion who was also mentioned last night. That means we need someone to mark Canning and Id go with Hegarty here. Ok we are down a forward but don't forget because of our bench they need to outscore us early on. We should not play them on their terms by trying to outscore them. A dogfight is what we want for 55 or 60 mins. The longer the game goes on and Galway are held the more doubt it will sew in them and the more belief it will instill in us. We don't want a classic we want a win. Play to our strengths

welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 10/08/2018 11:16:30    2131490

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Replying To Dealer:  "Interesting panel discussion at the County Board fund raiser last night. Both Mullane and Liam Sheedy gave a tentative vote to Galway based on the fact that they are champions which I'm very happy about.

The general view though is that if the match is in the balance on 60 minutes that Limerick will push on and win. There's a lot of concern as to how we handle Glynn and will Burke follow Flanagan out the field when he moves out. They are both surprised at the extent of the confidence in Limerick and I have to say that I do believe that we're slightly downgrading Galway because of their inconsistencies against Clare and forgetting about their better qualities. The start is critical especially for Galway for the above reasons.

Everybody is very happy with Graeme Mulcahy's new girlfriend (she's getting all the credit for his upturn in form) and that Patrickswell need to play more football. (Gillane).

My own view is that Limerick will have the chances to win this game. My concern is whether we will take them. Regardless of the result, my expectation is that this Limerick team will become stronger in the future and that they're nowhere near their peak."
Spot on Dealer with your last two lines - we have and will have chances which is probably more than we could have said in 2007 (although I think our chances in 94 and 96 were greater) . We are up against a hell of a side that cannot be written off - unbeaten for nearly 2 years in champ hurling. We are deserved underdogs but not by much - all the talk of Glynn etc. will be handled by the team, they know whats ahead of them already. i think we have a better chance against Galway than we would have had against Clare as we can't seem to handle Clares short game that well - galway are not as good at the short game and they prefer to use their big men up the field. Week to go.............

ImokillyMan (Cork) - Posts: 221 - 10/08/2018 12:02:37    2131505

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Replying To Dealer:  "Interesting panel discussion at the County Board fund raiser last night. Both Mullane and Liam Sheedy gave a tentative vote to Galway based on the fact that they are champions which I'm very happy about.

The general view though is that if the match is in the balance on 60 minutes that Limerick will push on and win. There's a lot of concern as to how we handle Glynn and will Burke follow Flanagan out the field when he moves out. They are both surprised at the extent of the confidence in Limerick and I have to say that I do believe that we're slightly downgrading Galway because of their inconsistencies against Clare and forgetting about their better qualities. The start is critical especially for Galway for the above reasons.

Everybody is very happy with Graeme Mulcahy's new girlfriend (she's getting all the credit for his upturn in form) and that Patrickswell need to play more football. (Gillane).

My own view is that Limerick will have the chances to win this game. My concern is whether we will take them. Regardless of the result, my expectation is that this Limerick team will become stronger in the future and that they're nowhere near their peak."
Full of faith, hope , hope and confidence...well said! ... a great way for Limerick to approach an All Ireland Final.

Great year, great final two weeks of bulid up.. who woulda thought? , much less believed even 3 months ago after we beat last beat Galway, that we would be where we are today.

In Kiely We Trust

Come On Ye Boys In Green

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 10/08/2018 18:20:15    2131598

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Replying To clooney:  "Looking forward to great game Limerick never better placed to win an AI iMO will match Galway in the physical stakes in Half Forward & Halfback.

For 55 minuted Galway scored 8 points 2 from sideline balls still won even though Clare outscored them 2.10/0.08 missed 19 wides one glaring goal chance .

For me if ye stop their quick starts will have great chance but they have great spirit & fight wont be easy but you would not want it any other way .

You really think that Limerick cant lose another one"
agree clooney. galway are not goliath by no stretch of the imagination and i beleive they will face a side next weekend that they will find hard to cope with. they will have to hurl for full 70plus, have they done that this championship thus far...no. Clare are a better hurling team than galway just they got there tactics wrong in both matches. I like to see hurlers win on the day not rugby players playing hurling! I expect we will do a Muhammad ali on george foreman job on them , let the brutes gas out and finish em off in later minutes,lord knows we are the best 70min team in the championship this year.

iomaintluimni (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 10/08/2018 19:14:09    2131609

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Replying To iomaintluimni:  "agree clooney. galway are not goliath by no stretch of the imagination and i beleive they will face a side next weekend that they will find hard to cope with. they will have to hurl for full 70plus, have they done that this championship thus far...no. Clare are a better hurling team than galway just they got there tactics wrong in both matches. I like to see hurlers win on the day not rugby players playing hurling! I expect we will do a Muhammad ali on george foreman job on them , let the brutes gas out and finish em off in later minutes,lord knows we are the best 70min team in the championship this year."
The irony of saying "rugby players playing hurling" when its being said all over the media that this limerick team is identical to Galway

jkiamasnake (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 10/08/2018 19:21:27    2131610

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Replying To jkiamasnake:  "The irony of saying "rugby players playing hurling" when its being said all over the media that this limerick team is identical to Galway"
Im not the media.

iomaintluimni (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 10/08/2018 20:00:35    2131618

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I don't think Clare are a better hurling team than Galway. Not yet anyway. Yes they have their own style to suit their players but the best hurling team wins the match and that's it. Everyone probably would agree Galway were better overall.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Galway too have a subs bench that's the main reason why we must not let them get way ahead or at all. Jason Flynn would be on as a starter in a lot of counties.

The Glynn thing seems to be an issue a lot of us can't solve
Put a different man on him that's never been a full back before seems too riskey. Funnelling another man from the front back as cover would definitely hinder our attack and give their defenders an easy launch pad especially when our half forwards go so deep anyway.
The remaining option is to keep everything as is and hope that our half backs have a monster of a game to cut out supply. Hopefully our 2 midfielders will pick up breaking ball. Anyway Kiely and the lads will know what's best.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 367 - 10/08/2018 21:37:51    2131630

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Replying To iomaintluimni:  "agree clooney. galway are not goliath by no stretch of the imagination and i beleive they will face a side next weekend that they will find hard to cope with. they will have to hurl for full 70plus, have they done that this championship thus far...no. Clare are a better hurling team than galway just they got there tactics wrong in both matches. I like to see hurlers win on the day not rugby players playing hurling! I expect we will do a Muhammad ali on george foreman job on them , let the brutes gas out and finish em off in later minutes,lord knows we are the best 70min team in the championship this year."
"Rugby players playing hurling" - what an arrogant, condescending statement about a brilliant bunch of hurlers, the current All Ireland champs.
Thankfully Kiely and camp are approaching the match in a slightly more thorough way!
Luimneach abú!

beirbua (Limerick) - Posts: 188 - 10/08/2018 22:08:22    2131637

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Replying To Mads:  "I don't think Clare are a better hurling team than Galway. Not yet anyway. Yes they have their own style to suit their players but the best hurling team wins the match and that's it. Everyone probably would agree Galway were better overall.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Galway too have a subs bench that's the main reason why we must not let them get way ahead or at all. Jason Flynn would be on as a starter in a lot of counties.

The Glynn thing seems to be an issue a lot of us can't solve
Put a different man on him that's never been a full back before seems too riskey. Funnelling another man from the front back as cover would definitely hinder our attack and give their defenders an easy launch pad especially when our half forwards go so deep anyway.
The remaining option is to keep everything as is and hope that our half backs have a monster of a game to cut out supply. Hopefully our 2 midfielders will pick up breaking ball. Anyway Kiely and the lads will know what's best."
Mads i see where you are coming from and we are all entitled to our opinion ,mine is that clare are a better hurling team..i emphasize the word team, i wonder if galway were so many points adrift could they hurl there way out of trouble like clare and limerick do to an extent , i cant remember a time in recent memory that they have . I would be more pessimistic of our chances if clare had the luck on the day and were facing us in the final. IF a team goes misssing for near on half the game without scoring i could not see how everyone would agree they were the better team. listen tis neither here nor there now,they scraped through as did we however as i said i rather galway anyday.

iomaintluimni (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 10/08/2018 22:22:56    2131639

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Replying To beirbua:  ""Rugby players playing hurling" - what an arrogant, condescending statement about a brilliant bunch of hurlers, the current All Ireland champs.
Thankfully Kiely and camp are approaching the match in a slightly more thorough way!
Luimneach abú!"
I see it the way i see it ,if they were hurlers they wouldnt gas out the way they do. John kiely is a shrewd operator ,i know him personally,he is a garryspillane man as am i, im sure he has seen this and will instruct the team appropriately. as regards me being arrogant by calling the galway hurlers close on rugby players..have you not seen them? Its not condescending to call a spade a spade is it??? Hurling is a skillful game ,dont get me wrong galway are skillful , are they 70mins plus skilfull though or is it that there overmuscled bodies get in the way of that 70mins plus.

iomaintluimni (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 10/08/2018 22:44:11    2131640

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Replying To iomaintluimni:  "Mads i see where you are coming from and we are all entitled to our opinion ,mine is that clare are a better hurling team..i emphasize the word team, i wonder if galway were so many points adrift could they hurl there way out of trouble like clare and limerick do to an extent , i cant remember a time in recent memory that they have . I would be more pessimistic of our chances if clare had the luck on the day and were facing us in the final. IF a team goes misssing for near on half the game without scoring i could not see how everyone would agree they were the better team. listen tis neither here nor there now,they scraped through as did we however as i said i rather galway anyday."
Yep fair enough. I really hope we can put Galway to the test and create the scenario where they go a number of points adrift like you say.
I suppose where I am giving them loads of credit, maybe too much is that they rarely are in this scenario.

As a change in topic can I ask people on this forum would you go up to Dublin without a ticket on All Ireland final day
in the hope of getting one outside Croker? Like a lot of people I'm unsure of whether I'll get one ahead but am thinking of going up and chancing it anyway . Would the chances of picking up a ticket be slim or fairly decent do ye think.
In 07 there seemed to be tickets around but I put that down to Kilkenny not being as enthused because they were so used to winning.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 367 - 11/08/2018 00:30:18    2131651

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Replying To Mads:  "I don't think Clare are a better hurling team than Galway. Not yet anyway. Yes they have their own style to suit their players but the best hurling team wins the match and that's it. Everyone probably would agree Galway were better overall.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Galway too have a subs bench that's the main reason why we must not let them get way ahead or at all. Jason Flynn would be on as a starter in a lot of counties.

The Glynn thing seems to be an issue a lot of us can't solve
Put a different man on him that's never been a full back before seems too riskey. Funnelling another man from the front back as cover would definitely hinder our attack and give their defenders an easy launch pad especially when our half forwards go so deep anyway.
The remaining option is to keep everything as is and hope that our half backs have a monster of a game to cut out supply. Hopefully our 2 midfielders will pick up breaking ball. Anyway Kiely and the lads will know what's best."
I wouldnt be fearing Flynn. Hes clearly out of form. I havent seen him make much of an impact anytime he came in and based on that, hed be a sub for other top teams too. Conor Clooney and Niall Burke havent been their best either. Just need to hope they dont discover the form of their lives in the final!

Rather then trying to pick a man or tactic to deal with Glynn, I would guess management are focusing on Casey and the other inside backs and what they need to do when marking Glynn. Anyway, if Galway are going route 1 all day I dont think we've much to fear overall.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 11/08/2018 04:12:41    2131659

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Replying To Mads:  "Yep fair enough. I really hope we can put Galway to the test and create the scenario where they go a number of points adrift like you say.
I suppose where I am giving them loads of credit, maybe too much is that they rarely are in this scenario.

As a change in topic can I ask people on this forum would you go up to Dublin without a ticket on All Ireland final day
in the hope of getting one outside Croker? Like a lot of people I'm unsure of whether I'll get one ahead but am thinking of going up and chancing it anyway . Would the chances of picking up a ticket be slim or fairly decent do ye think.
In 07 there seemed to be tickets around but I put that down to Kilkenny not being as enthused because they were so used to winning."
Well I will go up anyway and take my chances, if I do not one beforehand. There is ussually something available around Quinns or the Croke Park Hotel, opposite the Hogan Stand.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 11/08/2018 08:34:11    2131667

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Replying To Mads:  "Yep fair enough. I really hope we can put Galway to the test and create the scenario where they go a number of points adrift like you say.
I suppose where I am giving them loads of credit, maybe too much is that they rarely are in this scenario.

As a change in topic can I ask people on this forum would you go up to Dublin without a ticket on All Ireland final day
in the hope of getting one outside Croker? Like a lot of people I'm unsure of whether I'll get one ahead but am thinking of going up and chancing it anyway . Would the chances of picking up a ticket be slim or fairly decent do ye think.
In 07 there seemed to be tickets around but I put that down to Kilkenny not being as enthused because they were so used to winning."
Mads, I would advise you to travel because tickets will become available nearer the day. I would expect them to begin filtering back to Limerick from other counties next Wednesday. If you still don't have one by Saturday, a good place to try is the Kilmacud 7s tournament. Failing that, outside the Gresham Hotel on the morning of the final is always worth scouting around for a ticket. The only times it has proven almost impossible to attend an All-Ireland hurling final was in 1996 when the reduced capacity of Croke Park (65,800) and novel pairing (Limerick v Wexford) meant the enormous demand for tickets couldn't be met, and last year when Waterford and Galway were the finalists.
I could be wrong, but my guess is that, having won it last year, slightly fewer people from Galway will travel home from abroad this year.
Demand will be still be crazy and it's certain to be a sellout, but I would recommend travelling to Dublin even without a ticket, Mads. It's what I intend to do, regardless.

GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 11/08/2018 09:18:19    2131674

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Replying To GerO.Racle:  "Mads, I would advise you to travel because tickets will become available nearer the day. I would expect them to begin filtering back to Limerick from other counties next Wednesday. If you still don't have one by Saturday, a good place to try is the Kilmacud 7s tournament. Failing that, outside the Gresham Hotel on the morning of the final is always worth scouting around for a ticket. The only times it has proven almost impossible to attend an All-Ireland hurling final was in 1996 when the reduced capacity of Croke Park (65,800) and novel pairing (Limerick v Wexford) meant the enormous demand for tickets couldn't be met, and last year when Waterford and Galway were the finalists.
I could be wrong, but my guess is that, having won it last year, slightly fewer people from Galway will travel home from abroad this year.
Demand will be still be crazy and it's certain to be a sellout, but I would recommend travelling to Dublin even without a ticket, Mads. It's what I intend to do, regardless."
Perfect was thinking alright it'll be worth a go. Thanks a million.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 367 - 11/08/2018 10:06:03    2131685

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Old tourman you really should get a ticket. You are at every game. You should try writing directly to County board. There are a lot of posters on the bandwagon of late and some will get tickets before genuine fans. There is nothing anyone can do about that but you are always there. Maybe you should contact your old club mate and he could make a case for you. Best of luck. By the way you won't get any outside Croke Park Hotel though you will need a ticket to get past the barriers long before hotel.

welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 11/08/2018 10:32:43    2131690

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