These two counties went out to heavy hitters in their provinces and collide on Saturday with their respective seasons on the line.

This thread will be used to discuss the Round 1A qualifier at Markievicz Park.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 13/06/2017 14:15:13    1999106

Aye should be handy enough for Antrim - big disadvantage playing in Ulster but now we get to play teams from other provinces, Dublin and Kerry aside, we should be cruising.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 13/06/2017 14:58:02    1999137

Sligo are deservedly favourites. Winning these sorts of games shouldn't be beyond us if we are to progress.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4546 - 13/06/2017 17:57:16    1999245

Antrim won the corresponding game in the league but i would fancy Sligo to win this one

NorthKildare (Kildare) - Posts: 197 - 13/06/2017 18:33:00    1999255

Home advantage will be the difference here, I'd fancy us to win by 4 or 5 points.

Benbulben (Sligo) - Posts: 298 - 13/06/2017 18:56:21    1999262

Far from the worst draw though in the sense of somewhere you can go and make the weekend of it. Always enjoy a wee run to Sligo.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 14/06/2017 16:17:05    1999647

Always welcome the good people of Antrim. I think we'll win this and paper over the cracks for another few weeks but lets be honest whoever comes through this one will not be feared in the next round.

Sligo 1-17
Antrim 0-14

republican (Sligo) - Posts: 348 - 14/06/2017 16:50:56    1999657

Irish news reporting Sligo may have fielded 7 subs and match could be replayed

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 19/06/2017 11:25:25    2001686

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/06/2017 11:52:20    2001711

Ref must not have noted it in match report or it would have been known before the draw. Suppose we just wait and see. Surely it should be up to officials to determine whether subs can or cannot be made.

letsgosligo (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2017 12:13:10    2001739

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts: 992 - 19/06/2017 12:23:29    2001751

Rules are rules and all that but surely common sense should be applied. Did he even touch the ball?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 19/06/2017 12:25:36    2001755

letsgosligo (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 19/06/2017 12:31:42    2001758

The manager and selectors are in charge of their substitutes. Not the officials.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 19/06/2017 12:40:01    2001763

it hardly matters. Antrim have been that bad this year they'd be doing themselves a favour letting Sligo progress instead of going through the motions again.

I think the Adams/Fitz trial has run its course. They have been with this group for several years in one capacity or another and things have well and truly stagnated at this stage. Time for Saffron Vision to prove their worth.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2575 - 19/06/2017 12:56:16    2001779

So what is the rule around blood subs - Sligo have said all is above board as was a blood substitution but not according to any of the reports which have other blood substitute listed including the time the player was off before being brought on again. The Breheny change is listed as a substitute on the reports and he didn't come back on again either. So what is the ruling on that - is that deemed a blood substitute if you are replaced for the rest of the game or does it require the player to return (34 mins including added time is a long time to be a blood sub I would have thought)? The rule around blood or temporary substitutions says:

Where a player is required to leave the pitch to get blood stopped, cleaned off them and attire all cleaned that:
...a Temporary Substitute may be used, and the following acts shall not count as substitutions under Rule 2.4 (i) and (ii), Rules
of Specification.

(1) The use of the Temporary Substitute for a player instructed to leave the field under the Rule.
(2) The return to the field of play of the injured (blood) player as a direct replacement for the Temporary Substitute.
(3) The return to the field of play of the injured (blood) player as a replacement for any other player if the Temporary Substitute has previously been sent off or substituted.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/06/2017 13:17:12    2001795

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1429 - 19/06/2017 13:51:30    2001832

Yeah I see there was a case a couple of years back that brought the question around what is a Temporary sub:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/too-much-room-for-confusion-in-blood-sub-rule-310408.html

I suppose the bit I don't really get and it doesn't seem to have dealt with since the above article is, if the player going off is pretty obviously not coming back on or after a period of time is evidently not coming back on then when does a Temporary sub become a permanent one? From reading around the Rules I gather that the player is not allowed to return until blood stopped and player cleaned down. So had the blood not stopped in this case for the remaining 30+ minutes playing time? If so should he not have been on his way to hospital

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/06/2017 14:17:43    2001856

Further confused over the bit about a head injury replacement doesn't fall under Temporary subs and are normal substitution. What was the nature of the injury on Saturday- was it not head?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/06/2017 18:48:43    2002058

It was the public back in the mid 00s that spotted the fact that Dublin used to change 10 or 11 players during every game classing them as blood subs even when no blood was visible and not the officials or the GAA, they used to give players a 10 min rest then bring them back on again. It will always be the public that will spot mistakes and not the people in charge of our games

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 20/06/2017 12:17:23    2002444