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There is no excuse. Ive never said otherwise Barney. All Ive said is they are as bad as eachother.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18701 - 08/03/2026 01:18:53 2660487 Link 0 |
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So you can't explain how that happened?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1497 - 08/03/2026 11:10:02 2660503 Link 0 |
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I know you haven't. It's a mess that needs a lid kept on it but the actions of Israel in last few years - with Americans being dragged more into it - is making it an awful lot worse. Iran was content enough to keep to itself mostly. A nasty regime too but sometimes the devil you know. In the past Americans regardless of party would have generally stopped something like the attack on Iran. Biden and Trump - despite him promising to do the opposite - have given them a free hand. They do as they please and seem to care nothing for the consequences. Indeed, some of the smaller parties in Netanyahu coalition see this as some Torah based final conflict. As do the Protestant Evangelical loons in the States. This will end badly. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4055 - 08/03/2026 11:30:29 2660506 Link 2 |
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I did say 100 years ago, not 30/40 but you can still draw similarities from that too. I'm sure you will remember getting stopped at multiple check points on a regular basis back then. Springfield Road, Woodvale, Ballysillan etc. The same check points they put everywhere in Gaza. The only difference is that you still had the liberty to drive your taxi about after. In Gaza, any young male of student age is seen as a threat and will be treated as one. There are over 10,000 Palestinians in Israeli prisons, most have been held there without charge for years. I think we called that 'internment' up here in the 70s/80s. I'm not trying to discredit your past, but to plainly say that 'there are no similarities' is like saying Donald Trump's face isn't orange.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2618 - 08/03/2026 11:50:06 2660507 Link 3 |
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For sure there are similarities now, but there were no Israeli checkpoints there in Gaza between the late noughties and the current flare up after the Hamas raids. For sure there were checkpoints between Gaza and Israel, and Gaza and Egypt. I remember getting stopped and the car searched 4 times in the space of a journey less than 2 miles long from Ardoyne to the New Lodge Road. I agree its no way to be living. The similarities, or lack of, I was talking about though were between Gaza and the 6 counties. The Israelis pulled their settlers out of Gaza, and should be doing that in the West Bank also, and compensating them dor the work done on the bits of land they were illegally occupying in the West Bank by giving them land to try get productive in Israel. I get that these settlers dont want to leave the land they have put so much work into, but they shouldn't have been there in the first place. The "British" settlers in the North are now more Irish than alot of the population in the South, in that their families are here for longer, it's just a shame they can't see that. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18701 - 09/03/2026 09:10:50 2660609 Link 0 |