Replying To Formertownie: "Was goingfyoxsay they might face suspensions anyway but wont affect relegation as seperate competition . Or will it be club officers or management . I d say now its out there will be some form of repercussions . Surely at half time of et someone would ve realised of informed ref ." Surely the ref should know the rules?!?!?
grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 184 - 15/09/2025 12:36:45
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Replying To grassroots01: "Surely the ref should know the rules?!?!?" You be surprised . But on this issue you would imagine they would . just went unnoticed possibly can happen too human error. Been a lot of rule changes for refs fard to keep check possibly favecto give them the benefit of the doubt .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 15/09/2025 13:08:19
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Replying To Pikeman96: "To be blunt about it - you're wrong.
Has always been the case that somebody can move up the grades as the year goes on, e.g. starting out with a club's junior team but then moving up to the seniors.
The big thing is that he can't then go back down to the juniors afterwards, unless he's one of the three regradings that are allowed after the first two senior matches. If he plays senior in the third or any subsequent match, there's no way back down for him." Thanks pikeman. That answers the question.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 15/09/2025 13:27:40
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Had a look through the Tara Rocks team that won at the weekend and seems like there were somewhere between 10 and 12 Kilanerin players starting for them?
I'm not really sure about the current arrangement, doesn't look like Tara Rocks are getting anywhere closer to standing on their own feet, the opposite looks to be closer to the truth if anything
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 16/09/2025 09:15:29
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Replying To Formertownie: "I d agree old system was far better . It is just a suggestion if there is an appetite to stay similar structure . I do believe people that came up with current structure will want to keep new structure in some form and not accept it.was nt a good fit for wexford . That would be my reason for not putting in a motion on said suggested format tweak in case it gave new perspective and acceptable to majority . I d rathervit went back to old format . Not quite accurate but c/beg would be gone down if it was tweaked . Only they would ve faced shels not oylgate . And oulart would have faced gorey so all hypothetical I would still prefer old system to allow a couple of breaks in between especially for the dual players to recover. I m sure shels rapps and oylgate would at this moment agree . Gone before the championship really starts. Where as oulart and glynn barntown are in bonus territory after escaping with wins . Seems unfair on shels . Shoukd ve been blown up aftrr equaliser strange decision by ref although he had a decent game overall . C/beg are probably the only team that are where they are due to form and could nt argue it any .other way although maybe a bit unlucky in the end they still get another chance . Win 1 game in 7 to stay up . Are oylgate the new cloughbawn . 1/4 final Annes v naomh eanna - draw naomh eanna after et Harriers v ferns - harriers by 4 Martins v oulart - martins by 10+ Rahnure v glynn - ratnure by 12 + Oylgate v c/beg - c/beg relegated Alternative 1/4s old format Martins v ferns- Martins Rathnure v Rapps . Been interesting with skippy rathnure Harriers v naomh eanna - naomh eanna Annes v shels - annes Oulart v cbeg cbeg relegated Think under old format the best teams would ve been in 1/4 finals and would potetially be more competive Could argue oylgate better than rapps at present ." Think it's obvious that St martins and Rathnure will win both quarter finals,don't think either game will be close!!! As regards the other 2,these should be 2 very close games!!! With the Anne's v Gorey you would say if both teams performed at there absolute best Gorey would win,with the Anne's they just hang in there when they aren't going well which i wouldn't say about Gorey!!! Makes for an interesting game!!! Both teams haven't really hit there peak yet but this Anne's team has been chasing hard over the last number of years to get to the top of the mountain and maybe that could tip the scale in there favour,where as this Gorey team has there medals and have shown signs the last couple of years that they are slipping a little bit!!!Il give the nod to the Anne's just about!!!
Faythe Harriers v Ferns you would have to say a great draw for both clubs very hard to predict!! I think there's notting between these teams really!! Harriers don't convince me even when they win,struggled v oulart,fell apart v the rapps after the injuries to colm heffernan and Richie kehoe,struggled to shake off Glynn barntown,didn't really convince against shels!!!completely destroyed v Martins!!!Ferns really struggled in there group Gorey Rathnure and the Anne's beat them comprehensively they beat the two teams in relegation so not overly impressive either!! I felt they were bet all ends up v the shels and really didn't deserve to win it!!! If you look at it the harriers are missing there full back and centre back two massive losses got away with it v Glynn,Ferns have everyone available,i think they have a better set of forward!!! I think it might come down to how Ferns handle chin and if Harriers backs can hold out ferns forwards who I think have more scoring forwards!!! I think draw and harriers in extra time!!
Best of luck today all teams
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Replying To theboys: "Think it's obvious that St martins and Rathnure will win both quarter finals,don't think either game will be close!!! As regards the other 2,these should be 2 very close games!!! With the Anne's v Gorey you would say if both teams performed at there absolute best Gorey would win,with the Anne's they just hang in there when they aren't going well which i wouldn't say about Gorey!!! Makes for an interesting game!!! Both teams haven't really hit there peak yet but this Anne's team has been chasing hard over the last number of years to get to the top of the mountain and maybe that could tip the scale in there favour,where as this Gorey team has there medals and have shown signs the last couple of years that they are slipping a little bit!!!Il give the nod to the Anne's just about!!!
Faythe Harriers v Ferns you would have to say a great draw for both clubs very hard to predict!! I think there's notting between these teams really!! Harriers don't convince me even when they win,struggled v oulart,fell apart v the rapps after the injuries to colm heffernan and Richie kehoe,struggled to shake off Glynn barntown,didn't really convince against shels!!!completely destroyed v Martins!!!Ferns really struggled in there group Gorey Rathnure and the Anne's beat them comprehensively they beat the two teams in relegation so not overly impressive either!! I felt they were bet all ends up v the shels and really didn't deserve to win it!!! If you look at it the harriers are missing there full back and centre back two massive losses got away with it v Glynn,Ferns have everyone available,i think they have a better set of forward!!! I think it might come down to how Ferns handle chin and if Harriers backs can hold out ferns forwards who I think have more scoring forwards!!! I think draw and harriers in extra time!!
Best of luck today all teams" The championship is starting to get going after some good games last weekend. Expect Rathnure to beat Glynn and Martins to beat Oulart. Gorey and the Annes and Harriers and Ferns are tough to call. I woould expect Gorey and the Harriers to get through tough battles there. How do we see the intermediate games going? Askamore and Jimmys very hard to call . Buffers Alley and Horeswood- Horeswood seemed to have found form but have to fancy the Alley Fethard and Liam Mellows- I think Fethard's scoring power will prevail here. Cloughbawn and Tara Rocks- Expect a closer battle here than some may think but Cloughbawn to shade it.
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 703 - 16/09/2025 12:59:11
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It is noticeable the different tempo and interest level when there is something on the line in these games. I didn't see any games as I was away but everywhere you go people are talking about them since the weekend. This is why the group stages need to have more on the line. I liked the idea storytash had of 1st v 2nd in each group with 3rd playing 4th and the losers of 1st v 2nd playing the winners of 3rd v 4th in county semi final. It means there are no bye weeks, a 2nd chance is the reward for finishing 2nd. Team finishing bottom need to be in relegation final. Games need to matter and every game should have something riding on them, be it finishing 2nd or topping the group or whatever.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1482 - 16/09/2025 13:25:51
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Had a look through the Tara Rocks team that won at the weekend and seems like there were somewhere between 10 and 12 Kilanerin players starting for them?
I'm not really sure about the current arrangement, doesn't look like Tara Rocks are getting anywhere closer to standing on their own feet, the opposite looks to be closer to the truth if anything" I cant see Tara Rocks ever having enough to go back on their own
lefty (Wexford) - Posts: 249 - 16/09/2025 13:41:54
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Replying To theboys: "Think it's obvious that St martins and Rathnure will win both quarter finals,don't think either game will be close!!! As regards the other 2,these should be 2 very close games!!! With the Anne's v Gorey you would say if both teams performed at there absolute best Gorey would win,with the Anne's they just hang in there when they aren't going well which i wouldn't say about Gorey!!! Makes for an interesting game!!! Both teams haven't really hit there peak yet but this Anne's team has been chasing hard over the last number of years to get to the top of the mountain and maybe that could tip the scale in there favour,where as this Gorey team has there medals and have shown signs the last couple of years that they are slipping a little bit!!!Il give the nod to the Anne's just about!!!
Faythe Harriers v Ferns you would have to say a great draw for both clubs very hard to predict!! I think there's notting between these teams really!! Harriers don't convince me even when they win,struggled v oulart,fell apart v the rapps after the injuries to colm heffernan and Richie kehoe,struggled to shake off Glynn barntown,didn't really convince against shels!!!completely destroyed v Martins!!!Ferns really struggled in there group Gorey Rathnure and the Anne's beat them comprehensively they beat the two teams in relegation so not overly impressive either!! I felt they were bet all ends up v the shels and really didn't deserve to win it!!! If you look at it the harriers are missing there full back and centre back two massive losses got away with it v Glynn,Ferns have everyone available,i think they have a better set of forward!!! I think it might come down to how Ferns handle chin and if Harriers backs can hold out ferns forwards who I think have more scoring forwards!!! I think draw and harriers in extra time!!
Best of luck today all teams" Have seen most senior games. Agree that St Martins and Rathnure will get through easy enough. Glynn Barntown were very poor the last day still managed to win by a point. Think Gorey will beat Anne's though, have everybody injury free again and will fancy a crack at the title again. Harriers have dug out wins to there credit , have been porous at the back and Ferns have been hot and cold too so think that game will go to the wire.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 306 - 16/09/2025 14:31:25
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Had a look through the Tara Rocks team that won at the weekend and seems like there were somewhere between 10 and 12 Kilanerin players starting for them?
I'm not really sure about the current arrangement, doesn't look like Tara Rocks are getting anywhere closer to standing on their own feet, the opposite looks to be closer to the truth if anything" I've had a look at the programme for last weekend and also the list of approved transfers for this year, to see who was moving in opposite directions between the clubs for hurling & football.
I make it that of the Tara Rocks Intermediate team, just two of the named 15 and three of the subs were actually Tara Rocks player.
Same with their Junior 'A' team: just two of the named 15 and three of the subs actually Tara Rocks player.
If you consider that the two starters on the Junior 'A' team were also subs on the Intermediate team, that means they had just eight hurlers togged out at the weekend.
This Tara Rocks/Kilanerin arrangement has been in place since 2017 and we were told at the time that the whole idea was to allow Tara Rocks get back to being able to field in their own right within about five years. Instead, looks like they're further away from it than ever.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3101 - 16/09/2025 16:19:04
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Martins should have too much for Oulart, but if they are in any way complacent they might slip up. Rathnure likewise. I don't expect either of them to be complacent though. Gorey just don't look like they are fully fit, although they look better than last year. I expect Anbes to win. Ferns will likely have too much for the Harriers, although if Wayne Mallon has a game he might inspire the younger townies to play harder. Not sure he will even start though. Jimmy's will beat Askamore. Cloughbawn will beat the Rocks, but I expect it to be a tough game. This is a game for the Alley to stand up in. If they lose they will stay Intermediate for a good few more years. Horeswood will be dogged, but don't have enough top hurlers to trouble the top Intermediate teams. If the Alley lose it will confirm their newer generation of good hurlers just don't have it in them when the chips are down. Castletown v Fethard will be one of the closest games of the weekend for me. Fethard would ordinarily be favourites for me, but are missing a couple of lads. Still think they might have enough to get the job done though. Monageer will beat Cushinstown, RC are missing too many of their best players. Expect them to fight like dogs though. Duffry are getting in form at the right time, but I still expect, well hope anyway, that Taghmon should have a little more experience of the big day, even though this is also a very young Taghmon team by adult standards. Clongeen v St Mary's will be another tough close game, think St Mary's might just shade it but still wouldn't be surprised if Clongeen won. Adamstown should have too much for Davidstown, but again no result in this one would be a huge surprise.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17060 - 16/09/2025 16:21:04
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Replying To lefty: "I cant see Tara Rocks ever having enough to go back on their own" My thoughts exactly. They had two hurling teams when they joined, now they barely have 5-6 players. Was pointed out at the time the large panels they had at the committee meeting metc but wanted a short fix to get to senior. They will never be on their own again I would think, I think it's ruined the club. Obviously massively benifitted Kilanerin to keep they going when struggling a few years back.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 528 - 16/09/2025 16:32:03
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I've had a look at the programme for last weekend and also the list of approved transfers for this year, to see who was moving in opposite directions between the clubs for hurling & football.
I make it that of the Tara Rocks Intermediate team, just two of the named 15 and three of the subs were actually Tara Rocks player.
Same with their Junior 'A' team: just two of the named 15 and three of the subs actually Tara Rocks player.
If you consider that the two starters on the Junior 'A' team were also subs on the Intermediate team, that means they had just eight hurlers togged out at the weekend.
This Tara Rocks/Kilanerin arrangement has been in place since 2017 and we were told at the time that the whole idea was to allow Tara Rocks get back to being able to field in their own right within about five years. Instead, looks like they're further away from it than ever." Apparently the picture is even grimmer between u14 and minor, although the club seems to be doing better now at the younger ages. They've put alot of work into their grounds also. Problem is their catchment area is exactly the same as Goreys. Parents and kids have a choice whether they play for Gorey or Tara Rocks, and the majority pick Gorey. A bit like Wexford town it would probably help if the clubs there had clearly defined areas of the town as catchment areas.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17060 - 16/09/2025 20:45:03
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Replying To Viking66: "Apparently the picture is even grimmer between u14 and minor, although the club seems to be doing better now at the younger ages. They've put alot of work into their grounds also. Problem is their catchment area is exactly the same as Goreys. Parents and kids have a choice whether they play for Gorey or Tara Rocks, and the majority pick Gorey. A bit like Wexford town it would probably help if the clubs there had clearly defined areas of the town as catchment areas." Unless I've been very much mistaken for very many years, Wexford town doesn't actually have clearly defined catchment areas (presume we're talking here about the four football clubs).
There's tradition all right - e.g. play with St. Mary's if you're from the Maudlintown area, or play with St. Joseph's if you're from Bishopswater. But there's nothing to stop somebody from one of those areas choosing Sarsfields or Volunteers as their first club either.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3101 - 16/09/2025 21:59:26
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Replying To Viking66: "Apparently the picture is even grimmer between u14 and minor, although the club seems to be doing better now at the younger ages. They've put alot of work into their grounds also. Problem is their catchment area is exactly the same as Goreys. Parents and kids have a choice whether they play for Gorey or Tara Rocks, and the majority pick Gorey. A bit like Wexford town it would probably help if the clubs there had clearly defined areas of the town as catchment areas." I could be wrong on this but I also think Castletown are able to take players from Gorey (Or else certain parts of Gorey) because Tara Hill is in the Gorey parish
Am open to correction though
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 639 - 16/09/2025 22:00:14
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Replying To Viking66: "Apparently the picture is even grimmer between u14 and minor, although the club seems to be doing better now at the younger ages. They've put alot of work into their grounds also. Problem is their catchment area is exactly the same as Goreys. Parents and kids have a choice whether they play for Gorey or Tara Rocks, and the majority pick Gorey. A bit like Wexford town it would probably help if the clubs there had clearly defined areas of the town as catchment areas." Correct, realistically if a parent has any interest in GAA they'll send their child to the senior hurling and senior football club that's also affiliated with the town primary schools (Brothers/Loreto). But those that don't could be targeted.
It doesn't look good for Tara Rocks. Hobbs and Breen have been on the road a long time at this stage for them to be fair.
B geals are playing oulart in the minor premier hurling semi this weekend. The team is all kilanerin players so I'm told. A couple of these will be playing intermediate next year (Eoin Hughes for sure).
We could be looking at a Tara Rock team made up with 14/15 Kilanerin players over the next few years.
Good to hear their numbers are up at the younger age groups, and Gorey is only getting bigger so numbers should increase.
Not sure how voting works for the future, but it would be a sad day if the Tara Rock adult team was no more.
Trueblue123 (Dublin) - Posts: 28 - 16/09/2025 23:27:58
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Was the underlyning reason as a cynic . That kilanerin would have access to more players from Gorey town, was the vision the rebirth of tara rocks as hurling stronghold , was it a last ditch attempt to attract new players to help a hurling club survive . Will we see 2 seperate clubs emerge one hurling only and one football only . If this is the case would kilanerin still get transfers in from gorey town as not in the catchment area and tara rocks in from kilanerin catchement area will it be shut down as ineligible. Or will it stay as is forever. Amalgamation of underage a long time ago may have been the catalyst of the downfall of tara rock to ballinstraw gaels . . Looks like Kilanerin hold all the aces here . Just curiosity is there a plan or will it just continue indefinitely. Just like any club they will do what they can to improve player participation and growth if possible . Bending rules.
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 444 - 17/09/2025 09:26:10
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