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Less than a week away, now. The big question is "how many will Limerick get?"

9/10/11/12/13 … It could be any one of those numbers. It won't be 15, or even 14. That'd be ridiculous.

But from 9-13 is possible; highly feasible even!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1923 - 04/12/2021 15:37:36    2391643

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You're joking of course. Two readily spring to mind, TJ Reid & Pat Horgan. What about the exploits of Tony Kelly and Lee Chin? My guess if you make 9 you will be doing well.

AwbegRover (Cork) - Posts: 136 - 05/12/2021 16:43:32    2391748

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13 for me with the exception of Hegarty and Donovan. It'll hardly happen but I don't see an argument for leaving any of the 13 out.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/12/2021 14:00:14    2391861

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I think limerick will end up with either 9 or 10.i actually think Nicky will miss out because of the way everyone was raving about Eoin Murphy..they seem to have forgotten he could have cost them against Wexford when he stopped ball going over bar..Nicky hasn't put a foot wrong in past 3 years and puckouts are always spot on..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2224 - 06/12/2021 15:08:26    2391871

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Lee Chin and TJ are long odds for an All Star this year. Be amazed if either gets one, definitely not both. Horgan, Kelly, are certs but Limerick easily get 9, possibly 10 or 11.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1502 - 06/12/2021 17:32:00    2391897

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Replying To AwbegRover:  "You're joking of course. Two readily spring to mind, TJ Reid & Pat Horgan. What about the exploits of Tony Kelly and Lee Chin? My guess if you make 9 you will be doing well."
Ya i guess Cork will get 1 or 2 for getting to the final. Apart from the free-taking exploits of Hoggie, im not sure who else. Maybe the fullback ?

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 372 - 06/12/2021 21:01:34    2391927

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Ya i guess Cork will get 1 or 2 for getting to the final. Apart from the free-taking exploits of Hoggie, im not sure who else. Maybe the fullback ?"
I can't see Horgan getting an award this year. I'd say Jack O'Connor is the one Cork hurler who'll get one. I'd say Chin and TJ will miss out as well. Kelly has to be included.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1923 - 07/12/2021 10:22:37    2391948

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Replying To tiobraid:  "13 for me with the exception of Hegarty and Donovan. It'll hardly happen but I don't see an argument for leaving any of the 13 out."
I think Limerick will get about 9 or 10, rightly or wrongly I think any 50/50 calls involving Limerick will go against Limerick. Perfect example goalkeeper where Quaid or Murphy would both be a worthy winner for me but I reckon Murphy will get it. I think alot of the time even optics can play a part which sort of undermines the whole thing.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/12/2021 11:04:38    2391954

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Replying To wexico15:  "I think Limerick will get about 9 or 10, rightly or wrongly I think any 50/50 calls involving Limerick will go against Limerick. Perfect example goalkeeper where Quaid or Murphy would both be a worthy winner for me but I reckon Murphy will get it. I think alot of the time even optics can play a part which sort of undermines the whole thing."
I think no county has ever won more than 9 All-Stars in a year.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 07/12/2021 11:38:19    2391959

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Replying To wexico15:  "I think Limerick will get about 9 or 10, rightly or wrongly I think any 50/50 calls involving Limerick will go against Limerick. Perfect example goalkeeper where Quaid or Murphy would both be a worthy winner for me but I reckon Murphy will get it. I think alot of the time even optics can play a part which sort of undermines the whole thing."
For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4331 - 07/12/2021 12:54:52    2391982

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them"
Like Brian Whelehan winning HOTY in 95 but not getting an All Star. Its an absolute farce. Zero credibility in my eyes.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 07/12/2021 16:39:41    2392015

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them"
What finished me with the All Stars were the situations with Brian Whelahan.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 07/12/2021 21:04:13    2392037

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them"
The only award that matters at the end of the day is an All-Ireland medal. An All Star award is either the icing on the cake - or a consolation prize.

johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 07/12/2021 21:05:33    2392038

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "For me the whole has been undermined long ago. When they failed to give John Galvin an All Star in'10 that finished me with the whole charade- he was the best midfielder in Ireland that year by a country mile and when the players picked their team they recognised that. and I could not care less if our lads never got an All Star- all that matters is winning All Irelands or at least provincial titles. Anyway, anything over five awards for any one team is a joke. At least the Railways Cups long ago tried to give recognition to stalwart players from small counties, but The All Stars Selection Committee go out of their way to ignore them"
While I'm not as enthusiastic about the awards as I was in the '70's or 80's, I'm sure that the players themselves still value the All-Stars highly. That has to be worth something. In Gaelic games, it seems that in many situations, everyone else comes first, or is consulted first before the players, so it is good to give them something else, albeit very confined in scope of selection, other than winning an AI medal to look forward to.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1923 - 08/12/2021 09:50:05    2392048

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Replying To Bon:  "Like Brian Whelehan winning HOTY in 95 but not getting an All Star. Its an absolute farce. Zero credibility in my eyes."
Yeah that was 94 just to clarify, I believe the silly status quo up to that point was the all stars were picked after the all ireland semi finals, Sid got MOTM in the final and subsequently won hurler of the year.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 08/12/2021 10:50:26    2392057

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I think limerick will end up with either 9 or 10.i actually think Nicky will miss out because of the way everyone was raving about Eoin Murphy..they seem to have forgotten he could have cost them against Wexford when he stopped ball going over bar..Nicky hasn't put a foot wrong in past 3 years and puckouts are always spot on.."
100% correct here. Outside of Lynch he should be one of the most nailed on all stars but media have a habit of hyping up a player. Murphy is a serious goal keeper but last season was far from his best. Quaid had a flawless year but will likely miss out due to everyone latching on to one or two in the media giving Murphy such high compliments.
Two class keepers but for me Quaid all day long this year.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/12/2021 10:51:02    2392059

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Very hard to please everyone with these things. A team could be 2 points up 3 minutes into injury time in an All-Ireland final. If they hold out they get a good haul of All-Stars, concede a goal and lose the game and the script changes significantly..

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 08/12/2021 11:31:59    2392066

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Replying To johnocarroll17:  "The only award that matters at the end of the day is an All-Ireland medal. An All Star award is either the icing on the cake - or a consolation prize."
I mostly agree with you but after a person puts in a lot of work a little recognition is nice too.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2127 - 08/12/2021 11:49:47    2392068

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Yeah I think the media love-in means Murphy will pip Quaid to the award. Rest of the team could be as follows:

Full-back line: Sean Finn and Dan Morrissey are locked-in. That young Cork corner-back Ger Mellerick played very well all season but got injured before the AI final may get in as he has a cleaner copy-book than his colleagues.

Half-back line: Kyle Hayes has 7 sewn up. One of the other Limerick lads will get another spot, and I feel Kieran Bennett will get the nod at 5. Bennett-Byrnes-Hayes.

Midfield: Tony Kelly plus one of the Limerick lads again. Willie O'Donohoe's hard work will probably be recognised.

Half-forward line: Gearoid Hegarty for springing to life when it mattered, HOTY Cian Lynch is obvious. Last spot is trickier. Shane Kingston had an unbelievable semi-final off the bench and goaled in the final so should sneak in. But the media love-in for TJ is greater than that for Murphy, so wouldn't be surprised if he got a token one, even when Chin was better than him overall.

Full-forward line: I think it's locked in as Jack O'Connor, Aaron Gillane and Peter Casey.

Limerick: 9
Cork: 3
Clare: 1
Waterford: 1
Kilkenny: 1

Seems fair to me.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1421 - 08/12/2021 12:20:22    2392076

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Replying To beano:  "Yeah I think the media love-in means Murphy will pip Quaid to the award. Rest of the team could be as follows:

Full-back line: Sean Finn and Dan Morrissey are locked-in. That young Cork corner-back Ger Mellerick played very well all season but got injured before the AI final may get in as he has a cleaner copy-book than his colleagues.

Half-back line: Kyle Hayes has 7 sewn up. One of the other Limerick lads will get another spot, and I feel Kieran Bennett will get the nod at 5. Bennett-Byrnes-Hayes.

Midfield: Tony Kelly plus one of the Limerick lads again. Willie O'Donohoe's hard work will probably be recognised.

Half-forward line: Gearoid Hegarty for springing to life when it mattered, HOTY Cian Lynch is obvious. Last spot is trickier. Shane Kingston had an unbelievable semi-final off the bench and goaled in the final so should sneak in. But the media love-in for TJ is greater than that for Murphy, so wouldn't be surprised if he got a token one, even when Chin was better than him overall.

Full-forward line: I think it's locked in as Jack O'Connor, Aaron Gillane and Peter Casey.

Limerick: 9
Cork: 3
Clare: 1
Waterford: 1
Kilkenny: 1

Seems fair to me."
With the greatest respect, when you named Mellerick as in the running for corner back and failed to mention Tom Morrissey and Flanagan at all, As well as Donoghue "will probably get one". I'm struggling to wonder how much hurling you seen this year... Hegarty doesnt deserve one this year. He sprung into life in a final they were always going to win at a canter. Not for me by any stretch.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/12/2021 12:52:03    2392083

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