The real Árd Rí - I happen to disagree with your point on tradition! There were hicupps on the way but O'Mahonys competed in the first ALL-Ireland with some team from Tipperary during a period when county champions compete for All-Ireland (I think the celebrated that ocassion by competing with A...Rovers in croke Park in the early 90's.

Now in my book tradition is a number of aspects and most importantly based on success. NOM have strongest football tradition as the have most championships in the same way that in intercounty Kerry is at the top of the heap. Incidently Wexford had a very impressive record in early years with their 4 in a row but are not considered a traditional football county- maybe that will change on Sunday!!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 29/08/2008 01:16:15    88040

Ard Ri... what makes skryne the most traditional club in meath?..i know Navan o mahoneys only there since 1948...but plent yof other clubs around..Bohermeen did a 6 in a row from 1910.... now thats tradition is it not?... and u have pierce o mahoneys before that..contested an All iRELAND 10 YEARS BEFORE THE 20 TH CENTURY EVEN BEGAN!!...even more traditional?...

maco (Meath) - Posts: 357 - 29/08/2008 09:50:52    88107

And your wrong also Ard Ri.The O Mahonies existed under a different name but played in the same field.They were called De La Salle.They played since the twenties im sure.And would have collected snior titles in Hurling and football.

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 29/08/2008 10:38:43    88165

You would be better off just staying in Louth by the looks of it !

OurKid (Louth) - Posts: 195 - 29/08/2008 12:13:34    88309

browncows, Maco and James T.

Neither De la Salle or Pierse O' Mahonies are Navan O Mahonies despite what many in Navan believe. When NOM was created in the late forties they were an amalgamation of a number of clubs in the Navan area at the time. They were registered as a new club with a start date in 1948 or whenever. There was no mention of them being a continuation of a previous club or clubs with a change of name. Check it out. Also, despite my admiration for Bohermeen and their success they no longer exist either. That club folded in 1975 I think and amalgamated as Bohermeen Martry Harps. It is now called St. Ultans. Similarly Wolfe Tones is an amalgamation of St. John's Kilberry and Baile Gib. Those two clubs disappeared so that Wolfe Tones could be formed. Members of the Tones, or the aforementioned Ultans, have no problem admitting this so why should NOM. So lads you are wrong to claim an unbroken chain from the Navan team who played in an All Ireland in 1889 or whenever it was. Now the Skryne club is not only a Senior club since 1938 but in fact is a club since the early years of the last centuary.

Incidentally lads you are not the Kerry of Meath Football. You are in fact the Dubs. Full of yourselves without adequat reason, one senior championship in the last seventeen years, prepared to dish out whatever it takes to win at all costs, begrudgeing your closest neigbours any small success and all this despite having over a quarter of the available population.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 29/08/2008 12:20:12    88322

well said ard ri...hopefully that will put this thread to bed!

Jesus lads, the kid only wanted recommendation for a new club, he didnt want to witness a childish argument...'my club is better than yours!'. Yous painted a very bad picture altoghether, and I would recommend for him to stay with his own club and travel...someone from your current club must commute between navan and drogheda. If travelling is an issue, then come back to us with the general area in navan you are moving to and we will recommend the most geographically suited senior club for you...its up to you from there.

Good luck with your choice, whatever it may be....

sheepshooter (Meath) - Posts: 626 - 29/08/2008 13:04:32    88424

A quarter of the population maybe but how many of those actually care about Navan O Mahonies.Not to mention the crew north of the river who take nearly half of that.There are far more soccer teams in and around Navan and most young men play that instead of Gaelic or Hurling.You compare us to Dublin because of our population but its ridiculous and nonsensical to assume that even half of these people play football.Ha ha if you compare Navan O Mahonies to Dublin , you must make who Kerry then , Wolfe Tones , skryne , Dunshaughlin?No in this stupdi comparrissons game we would be Kerry as we have the most championships.Ha ha if Peter McDermot heard you call us Dublin he would be turning in his grave.

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 29/08/2008 13:36:18    88458

1953 Navan O'Mahony's 1954 Skryne 1955 St. Vincent's 1956 Syddan 1957 Navan O'Mahony's 1958 Navan O'Mahony's 1959 Navan O'Mahony's 1960 Navan O'Mahony's 1961 Navan O'Mahony's 1962 Trim 1963 Navan O'Mahony's 1964 Kilbride 1966 Gaeil Colmcille 1967 Kilbride 1968 Gaeil Colmcille 1969 Kilbride 1970 Kilbride 1971 Kilbride 1972 Seneschalstown 1973 Navan O'Mahony's 1974 Summerhill 1975 Summerhill 1976 Summerhill 1977 Summerhill 1978 Walterstown 1979 Navan O'Mahony's 1980 Walterstown 1981 Navan O'Mahony's 1982 Walterstown 1983 Walterstown 1984 Walterstown 1985 Navan O'Mahony's 1986 Summerhill 1987 Navan O'Mahony's 1988 Navan O'Mahony's 1989 Navan O'Mahony's 1990 Navan O'Mahony's 1991 Gaeil Colmcille 1992 Skryne 1993 Skryne 1994 Seneschalstown 1995 Dunderry 1996 Kilmainhamwood 1997 Navan O'Mahony's 1998 St. Peter's Dunboyne 1999 Skryne 2000 Dunshaughlin 2001 Dunshaughlin 2002 Dunshaughlin 2003 Blackhall Gaels 50 years - 16 championships = Alot of jealousy (Ard Rí for example)

mawmouther (Meath) - Posts: 109 - 29/08/2008 13:37:05    88459

The real Ard Ri - You are beginning to even surpass yourself !! For a start, St. Johns only existed for a short period in 70's and maybe early 80's and they were a combination team (two clubs combining) coming from the same areas as present good Tones team. Some people refer to the Keegan cup but this has only been in existance in the latter half of the last century! -are we to neglect the championships before then! Tradition is like history -it is what has gone before

There are many teams in existance for longer than S. (being in existance is not what counts is what you achieve). As far as I can ascertain from the yearbook Nom have many more championships than S. Croke Park recognised that the current NOM team had an earlier version and organised the commeration of the first All Ireland by arranging a challenge match at headquarters in the early 1990's- fact.
The teams in Navan from 1880's who won a combined total of over 30 championships were.
OMahony's
Gaels
Harps
O'Mahony's
not sure if that was correct order

Sometimes you have to recognise facts even if you may not like them or would wish something else. On the issue of Bohermeen they did indeed win 6 championships in a row and this record stands to the present time. Bohermeem have existed on and off up to recently but the team now happens to be called St. Ultans (the are beginning to head back to senior level and judging by recent results the have a pretty decent side).
Castletown I think were the only other team inside the county to win 3 in a row along with Waterstown, Bohermeen, NOM and Sumerhill. I think Screen who have an excellent winning tradition (and second most senior championships in county) have never won 3-in a row although I stand to be corrected on this.

PS It is agood time of year to look back

Anyhow Louth minor take your pick and the best of luck to you

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 29/08/2008 13:50:20    88467

I wonder is Bazajo even looking at this thread?

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2019 - 29/08/2008 14:14:21    88482

Rathkenny won a 3 in a row bsck in the 1920s I think.

men_of_49 (Meath) - Posts: 2019 - 29/08/2008 15:08:23    88557

James You've just proved my point for me. They're deffo the Dubs of Meath football. Totally ungracious. Arguing points which have no argument to them. That's classic Dub. Now you would never here the Kerry boys behave like that. And another thing, who are the worst losers in Meath. NOM of course. Have you ever heard Kerry complain about loosing a final. I'm telling you and hard though it be to accept it, you simplyhave to in the end . Anyway they're yesterday's men with no chance of doing anything for a good few years yet.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 30/08/2008 13:59:41    88947

The real Árd Rí - You let the mask slip!! a bit of a chip on the shoulder!! You dont like facts! stick to the opinions

Apology to Rathkenny - I indeed forgot to include ye and indeed Rathkenny won 3 in a row. Football was very strong in the earlier years in those clubs and that also inncludes Syddan.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 30/08/2008 23:14:09    89070

I think your wrong about this year Ard Ri.Im almost certain that O Mahonies are the only unbeaten team in all competitions in the county at all grades.Maybe ST Vincents in the junior B are too.

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 01/09/2008 09:15:18    89364

your wrong james T, slane beat your junior team in first round of champo

Lad (Meath) - Posts: 136 - 01/09/2008 11:54:02    89503

Browncows
I responded to your last point on Sunday morning but for whatever reason the editor decided not to post it. Anyway I don't intend to repeat myself. Suffice it to say that most posters on this page would agree with me that NOM are indeed the Dubs of Meath football whether you and your ilk believe it or not.

James,
What has that last point got to do with the argument? I didn't say anything about winning all competitions. With the pick that they have NOM should be contenders in all competitions in both football and hurling every year. Like that other major town Kells they are not. This is a shame for both clubs. At least one could say that NOM are now a Senior club something that can rarely be said for Kells. Trim aren't much better. The real heart of the GAA lies in small country clubs like Skryne, Tones, Rathkenny, Cortown Ultans, and I better not forget the Wood as well as others.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 01/09/2008 12:10:28    89531

Apologies i meant in senior unbeaten and no other team at any other grade.ie inter junior a etc.I agree with you Ard Ri that the heart and soul of Meath football particularly is in the more rural clubs.I never disputed that.I think that you exaggerate our pick.There are teams like Dunboyne , Donaghmore/Ashbourne and even Ratoath i believe with four adult teams and rapidly growing population.Thes places have a bigger pick and better facilities and do not have a rival senior club of similar size within their own townland.Also Ard Ri , you made a insinuated that most teams love to beat Navan because of a percieved attitude that is rumoured to be present among the players.This is simply not the case and they have repect for every team they go out to play.Even Rathkenny who they massacred the other day , The players and management acknowledged that Rathkenny had a couple of very good players that needed to be nullified and they executed the plan perfectly.

James T (Meath) - Posts: 611 - 01/09/2008 13:14:56    89643

The real Árd Rí - You are again surpassing youself! and you are again incorrect about the hearth of the GAA. The hearth of the GAA inside the county lies with all the 75 plus clubs inside the county and every club big or small is equally important. Incidently I do not call any senior single parish club a small club.

Now if you trace back thru the records of Meath GAA you should be able to make out that the town of Navan has won over 25% of the senior champiuonships (I think 33) now that is a fact - correct me if that is not tradition.

Now who will win this years championship I will not even hazzard a guess but may the best team win and I hope its a good match. On another point not unrelated I think the standard of club football is good if you judge last years champions against the eventual All Ireland winners St Vincients.

PS This has been a very enjoyable thread

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 01/09/2008 23:07:58    90252

Louth Minor last year. Really you should be looking at Bective for any chance of a game

EugeneGeraghty (Meath) - Posts: 37 - 02/09/2008 08:21:31    90338