our delegate says the plan is
1 develop dunganny ie put in a decent building based on Darver/Cloughan
2. put concrete terraces in place of the grassy knolls in pairc tailteann
3. put a roofed area on the present terrace in p/t
4 develop the stand by leveling it and rebuilding.

seems like a good plan to me and at least a starting place bit of ambition and go ahead on the new board and remember it is a new board with new chair,secretary vice chair and treasurer.

getting a 100k or whatever by selling the name will not do a lot in that costing system so i say forget that and let the royal meath people dig deep and support everything these boys have planned not with words but with real hard Johnny Cash. that will be the test

glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1119 - 19/10/2013 10:28:00    1503091

Looks like its back to what they did in the mid 80s..people donated 1k interest free loan and in return , got free admission, i think lifetime,

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 19/10/2013 11:16:37    1503100

glenny do they not plan on making part of the terrace in the middle a seating area with a roof so maybe like in breffni park but they'll keep the rest of it as a terrace. And selling the name at say 100k for 10 years would go a long way. That's 100k less the cash stripped people of Meath will have to come up with. End of the day we're going to have to do dunganny ourselves and get our books in order before Croke Park will even think about helping us out.

And we can start the fundraising by getting up off our backsides and going to all 3 home games this year in big numbers. Anybody know why for a 3rd year in a row we have only 3 home games and 4 away? An extra home game makes a big difference in terms of revenue especially if the team is going well.

And that's why more than anything I hope we get promoted next year. It will mean big crowds for the last few rounds of the league for the first time in years. Was great to see the big turnout for the Fermanagh game last year imagine what it would be like on the verge of promotion to division 1. And that's a huge starting point. Get to division one and you'll be looking at 10k crowds at home plus the dubs if at home could be played in croke park and we'd get a nice big payout in return.

Look at Mayo spending over 7 million on their fine stand. I doubt they could have done that without regularly getting 7-10k plus crowds for league games.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 19/10/2013 13:45:59    1503123

I would go with Glenny and SOB on this and I would forget renaming PT after a packet of crisps. First we need to get a detailed plan on PT with phases of development and associated costing of each phase. This needs to be done immediately and before Croke Park goes ahead with some hair brain project off the M50. I think funds could be raised by different options one being interest free loans and another being a lump sum with say free entry to PT or maybe sponsorship of individual seats by individuals. The phases could be aspects of the following;
development of main stand-demolition and re-build with rooms underneath for modern facilities and appropriate toilets attached for the public
terrace of both ends with development to incorporate the potential for future cover at each end.

Individual stands could have sponsorship names but not PT
The most immediate aspect of all this should be; phases, costing and raising of finance bearing in mind that there is never a good time to raise funds!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/10/2013 13:50:33    1503126

I think it is fair to say that we now have a CB who intend to upgrade our facilities. We have a provisional plan and we have considerable goodwill towards the project if posts on this page are considered. Now it's time to do something about it. This has to come from the CB but we in clubs throughout the county must keep the pressure on them to make progress. There never is a good time to raise funds but just remember, the current stand was built in the depressed fifties. The terrace was constructed in the depressed eighties. We now have a major recession on our hands but we are coming out of it. The Government might well be looking for major projects like this to sink money into and have some job creation in the area. Even on the darkest of nights there will always be a chink of light somewhere. Lets focus on that small spark.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 19/10/2013 15:26:03    1503165

Jack_Goff

I'd love to know why we only have 3 home games again meself, seems very unfair that we have to travel up to Clones again this year, I thought league fixtures were supposed to rotate.

Does anyone have a genuine reason for our 4 away games or is it just simply two big fingers from the Gaa to Meath football?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 19/10/2013 15:35:20    1503169

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Htaem in the long run we are probably of a similar mind.

Richieq I suspect you were at the C/B meeting with the clubs in Trim about a month or so ago because your proposal is more or less what was agreed. Now let's quit the moaning and put our shoulder to the wheel. I understand there is a fundraiser race day on Dec 1 in Fairyhouse. Lets see you all there.

Ha, no I wasn't at the meeting I'm a Meath man living abroad in Donegal and haven't been involved in my home club or at a county board meeting in some years now but get down for as many club and county matches as I can, that plan is just something I always thought was feasible for PT and what I thought should and coils be done to make it a top ground, I agree indeed that as many as possible should get to Fairyhouse on Dec 1st, that's a major fundraiser that could seriously boost the coffers if they get a good crowd

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3757 - 19/10/2013 15:42:35    1503171

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RichieQ would it not be best to start with 2 terraces behind each goal or the stand before closing the existing terrace? If we closed the stand first then the terrace would hold the attendances but if we closed the big terrace first then we would lose out on serious money for games.

Oh yeah agreed both goal ends must be done first and then the existing terrace, I would see its development as a replacement for the existing stand once it's done so that there would be covered seating capacity when the old stand is knocked

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3757 - 19/10/2013 15:45:11    1503173

What is the deal with some people and naming rights?
OK I get it if we had the cash but we don't. Htaem and myself and many others points are we don't care where the money comes from once it gets the job done.
I have no red lines. But when the padlocks are on the gates and we forced to go to another counties pitch to play our home games and lidl aldi or whoever are putting in a store or car park we can all clap ourselves on the back saying at least we didn't name it after packet of crisps. Grow up.
Get the money from any group who are willing to pay for it.
Jesus wept

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/10/2013 16:35:09    1503187

Yeah I think we should sell the name if we have our best interests at heart. To be honest a packet of Tayto means more to me than the tailtean games!

Richie and bettystownroyal it might not work out that way but what you've said makes sense. They could build two end terraces and then start work on a pairc esler type stand to replace the exiting terrace. And then build a new terrace on the far side where the stand currently is now.

Have meath got any big building contractors still in good health? didn't ofally get a load of cheap cement and concrete from some ofally builder?

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 19/10/2013 18:08:07    1503230

Jack your missing the point.
Will you or anyone else prefer to see it closed than take money from largos?

Mine and others point is whatever it takes.
Are the tailteann games more significant in a closed ground?
There should be no red lines. If we can get the money elsewhere then I'm all for it. But let's exhaust every avenue. It really is that simple.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/10/2013 10:41:38    1503340

What money has been offered from largos?

Anyone able to back up any of this made up talk?

How much was proposed, by who, and in return for what?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 20/10/2013 13:42:51    1503391

Selling the name was a suggestion for extra income towards the redevelopment. .

Personally I wiuld not like to see the name changed. .but I am eager to see some finance injected into the county grounds. . Looking at it on tg4 now and i am cringing

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 805 - 20/10/2013 15:44:09    1503422

ID say members of CB though a replay might be a real possibility.............then flash it was all gone!

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 20/10/2013 17:15:41    1503448

Is it any wonder we are getting it hard to raise funds when so called "Meath" fans sit at home on a fine day when their county final is being played in Páirc Táilteann. Couldn't say I was a Meath fan if I wasn't there on the day.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 20/10/2013 18:15:16    1503471

Ard ri while I would be somewhat in agreement with your point. From a personal perspective I live in Westmeath. And get to attend only few Meath club games per year. I am a Meath supporter not in club sense county only and my adopted club in wm. Many Meath supporters live outside county and these would still support county team even if club allegiance has changed. I watched match on TV and tbh was embarrassed by state of grounds. It looked worse on TV than when in it. However I am waiting on someone to complain about the big tayto park sign on the scoreboard I'm sure someone will have a moan about it. Its becoming very apparent that largos deal/ sponsorship goes further than shirt deal, I'm sure with a little push they may fund and in part the redevelopment,and who knows perhaps they may not want name, jjust plenty of advertising. Let's talk to them, that is all I or most of us are asking. The state of that dump does no favours to our county or clubs, fans and indeed is disrespectful to the ancient games of which it is named after.
No more waiting, it can wait no longer.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/10/2013 18:44:28    1503483

ah i found that i bright a small blanket for my posterior..works everytime...... and banter was great on the stand..one thing everyone agreed.. ref wasnt up to scratch!

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 20/10/2013 19:28:25    1503511

SOB
Refereeing was appalling at times. Royaldunne that's a lame excuse WM is not that far away. I know Meath fans over there who come to every county final. If PT is too far to travel to then I guess the Fairyhouse fundraiser may as well be run in Aintree. It's easy to complain about the state of the place, something I was doing on this site over five years ago. However, it's a different thing when it comes to doing something about it. Sometimes I despair.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 20/10/2013 21:02:34    1503577

There was only 5,000 in PT yesterday for the showcase blue riband event for Meath football, poor figure when you see that 10k + make it all the way to Dublin for the big days out.
I thought two entertaining games for €15 was good value and €4 for a well put together programme, that contained a well written rallying call/review from MOD. I left satisfied that a good show was put on for the watching cameras, great to see the 88 team being honoured at half time, in reality the place should have been heaving with football people.

It is harsh to judge individuals for not attending yesterday, maybe it should be a case of not casting stones from afar. We will see how many tip in for the O'Byrne cup in January that wouldnt go on a mild October Sunday.

highking12 (Meath) - Posts: 184 - 21/10/2013 09:01:56    1503639

highking12

Agree with most of what you said. However when so called fans come on here regularly criticising the efforts being made now to do something about the Old Grounds and their only excuse for not attending their county senior final is that they are living in Westmeath then I think I am entitled to have a go. The real reason was that the match was being relayed on TG4 and they could therefore watch it from the comfort of their armchair with a can of something in their hand without having to go to the expense of driving over and paying in etc. Well as a Meath supporter that wouldn't do me so long as I am able to go. Sorry folks to be having a rant so early in the morning but it's time for all genuine Meath fans to pull together on this.

P.S. The county senior final was one of the best for many a year and was well worth the price in. Hard luck on Na Fianna but you will be back.

The real Árd Rí (Meath) - Posts: 990 - 21/10/2013 09:45:44    1503652