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Pairc Tailteann and County Grounds

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Indeed. No one would be prouder than me to have a fantastic county grounds. And meath generally has a good home support. I would rather pay an additional 5-10e at any meath game so long as it went towards structural development. Vast sums would be wasted in any other event. There are loads of options out there to fundraise but its not happening sadly

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 805 - 09/05/2013 11:59:02    1381013

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You're proving me right there though. If we put up match prices we'll only end up losing out as those who can't afford it won't go at all and the extra money ends up going through the County Board filtering system. An independent development fund is completely voluntary for those who can and are willing.

And as for fundraising options like raffles etc. It's fine but they are one offs that you can never be certain on up take or revenue and we usually end up with the CB harassing clubs and members into buying tickets they can't afford.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 09/05/2013 12:16:59    1381025

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Im with loyalroyal on this one.
Is there any initiative coming from co board in regard to this tho?

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 09/05/2013 12:22:16    1381033

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"Is there any initiative coming from co board in regard to this tho?"

None that I'm aware of.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 09/05/2013 12:27:36    1381037

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http://www.tyronegaa.ie/club-tyrone/

There's our template in essence.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 09/05/2013 12:43:19    1381050

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Good points made on the development of the stadium , what about selling some of the ground that faces the mortuary / hospital ( back of swim pool grass banks ) for commercial / office use eg physio or sports injury clinics etc ?

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 09/05/2013 13:17:43    1381079

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Why cant tempoary seating be considered. Use the RDS as a template. 3 sides of that ground are temporary structures, behinds both goals and the granstand that the cameras face away from. Despite being temporary it still has a roof and can accomadate a decent size crowd for HEC matches. Then if redevelopment does happen it can be easily dismantled. Another example of it being used successfully was Tallaght stadium were temporary seating was installed for the UEFA Europa League matchs behind the goals. If it meets UEFA standards I'm sure its good enough for Allianz leagues and county finals.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 573 - 09/05/2013 16:09:18    1381241

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during the late 80s meath GAA asked patrons for a 1k interest free loan, h=in return, they got the money back plus free lifetime pass for PT.. might be worth having a look at something along that line?

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 09/05/2013 16:59:05    1381272

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Has anyone approached tayto?? I mean surely tayto pairc tailteann., is a marketing dream?
Would anyone have problem with name change and sponsor on it?
They get free advertising for years, we get a revamped ground

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/05/2013 17:04:38    1381275

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We need a county ground that can hold 15k-20k at most. We have 4 league matches a year plus maybe 2/3 home championship matches depending on how we progress and 1 senior club final. Out of those maybe 1 league match and 2 championship matches would draw over 10k, therefore no need for a 25k capacity ground.

I would think if we set up a scheme where people could subscribe to a ten year ticket for €1k (6 decent matches a year but also covers club championship matches and O'Byrne Cup) you would get a few takers plus sponsorship of the ground. A tidy 15k ground would also ensure we got a few first round Leinster championship matches.

DowdtoFoleyGoal (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 09/05/2013 17:04:46    1381276

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DowdtoFoley, that's a good idea too.

Depends on whether you get many Championship games out of it.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 09/05/2013 17:23:05    1381290

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the co. committee have a sub committee tasked with the refurbishing of pairc tailteann and completion of dunganny , as you can appreciate they have a massive job on their hands , lads its going to take some time and a lot of finance,

royler (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 09/05/2013 17:45:52    1381304

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Say 3000 people pay into a league game. which sould be more or less a paying crowd on average in PT. And say 2e of the gate fee goes towards a fund for redevelopment.. Thats 6,000e. And there is 4 league games a year in PT. Thats 24.000e in a league season
Approach Kilsaran Conrete/ oakstown conrete offer free advertising for discounted concrete for the development.. Tayto, just like an above.poster stated.
Supporter donation as LoyalRoyal says
Fundraisers in general.
And perhsps a dig out from HQ if effort is being made?

If a push was made over 2-3 years a lot of money can be made and is possible.

Only the end stands in the RDS are temporary.. In response to an earlier post.

Cash is tight but the idea must be pushed through as the place is not getting younger

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 805 - 09/05/2013 20:48:22    1381397

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Unless Meath charge fans 2 euro extra on top of the normal admission fee, there's no way you can just shave 2 euro off every entry fee into Pairc Tailteann and save it for a development fund. Would also imagine forcing opposition supporters to contribute to Meath's funds wouldnt go down well, especially since we wouldnt have to pay for theirs.

The county gets gate money back at the end of the league as it is. Our awful finances clearly show that that money isnt enough at the moment, even without taking more out of it for a development fund.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1695 - 09/05/2013 21:32:41    1381421

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PT is 25 minutes from the Dublin and the m50, the m50 links to Galway limerick cork Belfast all the big cities, there is a train service 15 to 20 minute drive away in dunboyne. PT usage is mostly confined to weekends during the national league, hardly any major intercounty championship matches in the last few years. Apart from senior semi finals and finals, junior and intermediate finals, it's usage through the year is low. I dont understand why during the summer a trip to tipp type event couldn't be organised, I cant think if a better located ground easy access close to Dublin. The county bord need to get the funds together and pay off our debt then plans can be made, trying to plan for pt dunganny run a county board etc and pay off a debt in this day and age I believe can't be done ans is madness, pt is paid for now. Make the most of it to pay the bills

pa1 (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 09/05/2013 21:40:07    1381428

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It'll be a hard sell no matter what is put before us ,as the deficit has increased by €90 k which leaves many people wondering how exactly we got to that point after the tally before the cb hand over was €180 k . Many people will want it know how and why this is only emerging now before they pony up any more cash .

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 10/05/2013 12:27:00    1381595

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Exactly Royal.. how was it not known before the handover?..its not loose change, its almost 100k.......

sob (Meath) - Posts: 492 - 10/05/2013 12:45:17    1381608

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http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=192516

And I'm not even asking for that much of a commitment.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 465 - 18/05/2013 12:03:56    1386090

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royalpainter - your comment about selling part of the ground is in my opinion daft! Where would you put the portacabins that 250k was spent on? I certaintly would not sell any grounds as it is badly needed for warm-ups etc and 'god knows what' into the future. In the present climate I would suggest that the Tyrone example is one of the best methods to raise funds. PT is an excellent pitch and one of the best in the country and in an excellent location. Now is the glass half full or half empty? I suggest that all you need is to knock the stand and re-develop it with first class facilitied underneath. I have my doubts about the sub-committee as none of them have developed very much themselves. It is a question of having a fully costed plan, raising the finance and getting the job done and!!! in developing the plan making sure that huge sums of money are not paid to consultants! Cost control is of the utmost importance in this type of development. Perhaps we should form a 'supporters development committee' where I am sure there is all sorts of expertise available for competing some of the aforementioned tasks.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/05/2013 14:00:29    1386141

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I feel the county board shouldn't be in a hurry to redevelop PT. I've been to thousands of games in Navan over the past 20 years and I could only remember a half dozen times where capacity was an issue. The first target for county board is to decreased our debt. This will take at least 10 years to get under control and at the point we can hope that our underage development has brought through the right type of footballers/hurlers so that we can generate more income from sponsorship and ticket sales. It is at this point where the county board could look to redevelop PT.

BelieveinMeath (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 18/05/2013 14:43:36    1386170

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