GlasagusOr
County: Meath
Posts: 468


The first sub was after 20 mins. Not at the very end.

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 18/03/2012 18:04:22    1131722

Such a disappointing performance. It looks like a different team from the one that lost narrowly to Kildare.
Where to start? Well firstly, Padraig Hughes seemed determined to make it as hard as possible for us. Gifted Derry frees every time a Meath player went near (Paddy Bradley was an expert at throwing himself to the ground) yet gave next to nothing to us (I even saw him give us "advatage" for a blatant foul 20 yards out and straight in front of the goal).

But good lord despite that, the number of wides was dreadful. We should have been nearly out of sight at half time instead of a point down. And can someone tell me why we played several high balls into Ward and Gilsenan in the first half, yet when a big man like Tom Walsh goes into full forward, we suddenly stop. This was just one of countless baffling things that went on during the game.
While I do think that Banty has to take most of the blame, I think it would be unwise to get rid of him at this stage. Let's see how we do for the rest of the season, but if it continues like this, I'll be surprised if we're not looking for a new manager in autumn.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1386 - 18/03/2012 18:10:25    1131732

Are we going to change managers mid season? I am not saying one way or another. Yes there needs to be a underage structure put in place but that does not solve this immediate problem.
If we were to change management who would take over as interim? And he will still have vast majority of players there that is there now.
With exception of one or two changes we aint going anywhere with the current system.
If we change now whoever came in would have to get time to get use to players we might as well just write off 2012. I don't know if that is best, maybe it would be at this stage

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2012 18:11:05    1131734

Disastrous.
Diabolical.
Disgusting.
We are an absolute shambles.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 18/03/2012 18:21:50    1131750

dirt with a capital D,anyone that thinks that this style of football is the way forward must never have seen meath teams in the past.what annoys me most is that g gerathy and his fellow selectors are allowing this farce to continue,when i seen mcanarney standin in the full forward line and reilly in the half back line i nearly cried !every time we break forward we end up with 13 men in our own half going sideways and backways,yet again our two green giants in the middle of the park never caught a ball between them,i know ya cant blame the manager for everything but there is a problem with his negative defensive mentality.bring back the old days when we tried to play football and let no one tell me its a step backward!

royalwarrior (Meath) - Posts: 33 - 18/03/2012 18:25:13    1131755

Anyone know what went on and what was said under the stand after the game.Players didnt appear for the guts of an hour?

ClonardLad (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 18/03/2012 18:41:29    1131772

Well firstly, Padraig Hughes seemed determined to make it as hard as possible for us. Gifted Derry frees every time a Meath player went near (Paddy Bradley was an expert at throwing himself to the ground) yet gave next to nothing to us (I even saw him give us "advatage" for a blatant foul 20 yards out and straight in front of the goal).

i wouldnt blame the ref. 2 teams and he was ok. lets look at meath. this 2 man full forward line is nonsense. if joe was in there or a target man then you could justify them hoofing the ball in. the opposition, sit one man back and wer expected to break that down? what is wrong with playing football the way it should be played. defensive systyms that kildare and donegal has proved that you dont win all irelands. the way kerry, cork and dublin play always wins. the team itself is at an all time low. is it any wonder fellas have not wanted to play for meath with tactics like that? eoin reilly should be playing. bringing alan forde on as a half back and starting biggy there was a joke. wev gone so far backwards its alarming. Paddy bradley was class 2d. mickey burke on him for the whole game was a mismatch

db9 (Meath) - Posts: 283 - 18/03/2012 18:41:49    1131773

I see the report says Meath "rarely lose in Navan". I dont see where people get the impression that p. Tailteann is a fortress for us, in recent years we have lost to Derry, Kildare (twice), Donegal, DCU (twice), UCD, and Fermanagh at home, while (in the league) losing almost every single away game. Our U21s and minors have lost to Offaly, Kildare, Longford there. It's not even that kind to our hurlers against teams of similar standard to them, losing to Kildare, St pats, Wicklow, Derry etc. (well Trim was traditionaly the home of Meath hurling games, but since Navan is their county grounds they play there too). Last year alone our juniors, seniors and U21s were eliminated while playing in Navan. Until Meath actually start proving themselves dogged, inspired and difficult to get a result against in Navan, we should downplay the pairc Tailteann factor.....

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1680 - 18/03/2012 18:53:06    1131783

Jinxie, I know Gary O'Brien came on early in the first half, meant to say forward substitutions. We were struggling to get scores second half and that was what was needed most of all.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 18/03/2012 18:57:22    1131788

I honestly can't remember the last time I was this annoyed after a game.
Players and management (yes players too!) need to take a serious look at themselves.

Coylers Elbow (Meath) - Posts: 1075 - 18/03/2012 19:04:12    1131790

That is the worst Meath team that I ever saw.At the end of the game,Banty had them do a warm down but they should have ran off the pitch in shame and hid.Will not be going to any more Meath games in the foreseeable future.

jake1 (Meath) - Posts: 268 - 18/03/2012 19:14:21    1131800

Disgraceful performance by Meath today.There were more than a few problems today.....
1. We kept passing the ball sideways and then ran into a wall of white jerseys.
2. We played a load of high balls on top of Paddy and Cian,the Derry full backs were taller than them and they won little or no ball. When Tom Walsh went into full foward, not one high ball went in. Like come on.
3. Mickey Burke was roasted.
4. Midfielders were hopeless.
5. G.Reilly started at half back and Shane Mc at wing foward. THIS MAKES NO SENSE.
6. When our two full fowards made nice runs the midfield players never lifted their heads and ended up going backwards or taking ambitious shots.
7. Tobin, C.Ward, Walsh (when at midfield) weren't involved in anything we did.
8. Gallagher's kickouts were dreadful again. We should consider pleading Paddy O'Rourke to come back to the panel (just for the kickouts)

BIG reality check today!

seamusmac (Meath) - Posts: 379 - 18/03/2012 19:21:07    1131806

Donegal last season was bad, but this was another level of bad entirely.

GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 18/03/2012 19:26:34    1131809

Yep I agree it has to be both that is to blame management and players.
Let's be honest hear some of them have been a let down lately. One thing I was glad to see was damian carroll has been drafted into panel. Good young footballer should make a subs appearance next game.

As for never seen a meath of old play. I have missed 5 matches in all comp since 1982. I was even at all the centenary cup games in 84. The point is meath were good at that football style then but like everything else it has evolved. Kerry started the hand passing game in 70s. Dublin play a defensive game yes they get scores too but it is essentially the tyrone armagh game brought on a bit. Kerry do same as does cork kildare and tyrone. Our problem is we have waited to long to move forward as most teams are miles ahead of us on this system.
If we were to return to the meath of old yes it be great but we would be bet out the door for next 5 years. And I know we could be anyway. But this is the evolution of football and we must get on the bus. Is this the manager to do it I don't know? But if we abandon it and go back we will soon be playing in div 4 never mind 2 or 3

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2012 19:36:32    1131820

GlasagusOr
County: Meath

Donegal last season was bad, but this was another level of bad entirely.



I agree with that.. Meath were diabolical that day, however, Donegal mauled us with that day. However today we were expecting to bury the hatchet and put the relegation issue to bed. Simply did not happen today and has ended my faith in this team for a while until something drastic is done

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 794 - 18/03/2012 19:51:08    1131836

GlasagusOr

You took the words out of my mouth
Well said!

seamusmac (Meath) - Posts: 379 - 18/03/2012 20:02:18    1131845

Were meath really bad or derry good whats the story wasnt at game 2day who impressed you in derry colours 2day considering our injuries i thought we might struggle in navan, although we have a good record against meath for some reason.

93vintageyear (Derry) - Posts: 301 - 18/03/2012 20:03:30    1131846

Donegal mauled us with that day

sorry was ment to say they mauled us with the handpassing tactic that day

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 794 - 18/03/2012 20:04:07    1131847

Lads I saw longford give a hiding to meath in early 80s in cusack park mullingar, jody gunning from offaly was ref and was a disaster big jj mccormack was at midfield and captain. within 5 years we were all ire champs
Although today was a disaster and a disgrace next week I will be in omagh. That is meath football to me I never give up on them.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2012 20:10:42    1131860

royal dunne If we were to return to the meath of old yes it be great but we would be bet out the door for next 5 years.

why would we ? this style of hand passing /play is a joke. ok i understand its all about keeping possession ,but what if like reilly today the lads actualy used there bodies to physicaly wear down there opponants .ie hard shoulders .whats so wrong with that .what is so wrong with getting the ball to the forwards by kicking it upfield,using the pitch ,not wasting time gaing 3/4 feet at a time ? then loosing the it .why do we have to conform to this puke stlye of play .why not stick to our tradional methods that are used in club football and let us be the team that other counnties will have to work around us ?

royalpainter (Meath) - Posts: 874 - 18/03/2012 20:13:44    1131863