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Meath should offer a replay

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Louth Gael,

You are out of order !! Even the Louth players do not want a replay and heard a Louth great, Colin Kelly, say that on the radio this morning. Louth got a bad deal from a refereeing decision and nothing to do with Meath or cheating. If there was a replay every county would want one for some reason and we would never get a finish to the C/ship !! Move on or it will really effect the team !!

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 14/07/2010 17:27:57    709214

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Mighty Meath!!!!
See how they run
At least Thierry Henry was man enought to apologise for his actions
Thierry An Mhi tried to lie to the Irish public but the evidence is there for generations to see

georgelee (Louth) - Posts: 523 - 14/07/2010 17:48:34    709253

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great to hear meath have decided not to offer a replay. any word on what will happen to louth yet?? in my opinnion they should be thrown out of the remaining championship for how they behaved after the game. they were a joke and to read the paper today and see that man talk about how he doesnt regret what he done to the ref after the game just angers me futher. made a fool of themselves and disgraced the sport of gaa. action needs to be taken!!!!!

northlad (Monaghan) - Posts: 67 - 14/07/2010 18:05:24    709276

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For a start, any Meath supporters here should stop replying to fools from outside the county that want to name call Meath players, teams and/or supporters. They barely have a grasp of the written word, so to assume they have the ability to consume the incident, in any kind of a subjective light is fanciful. Add to that the chances of anyone caring what a few fools say are remote.

This is indeed a complex issue, where the interpretation of the rules are the central issue. One might consider the application of the square ball rule, should a player be penalised for just for entering the square, or is it just being in the square before the ball arrives into the square. Should a penalty have been awarded, or do you allow play to continue under the advantage rule. What happens then if you allow the play to go on and the player fouls the ball like in this occasion?
Another issue which has not been brought up, is the possibility of the goal actually being legal under the rules of the game. Stay with me for a second now, don't go nuts….

Rules of Fair Play - Rule 1 - The Play:
2(i) When the ball is on the ground, it may be played by any part of the body except the hand(s). It may be lifted off of the ground with the feet.
Exception:
(ii) Any player who falls or is knocked to the ground while in possession of the ball may fist or palm the ball away on the ground, and may score by doing so.

You could read it that this rule provides for the player landing on the ground on their front, what about a player that lands on his back. Or you could read it that the player, when knocked to the ground (and you may argue that he was not knocked to the ground) can play the ball away in any fashion, and score by doing so, given that he has tried to play the ball. In a similar situation I would not take the chace that the ref would know this rule existed so would be wary of trying it out. My own feeling is that the spirit of the rule allows for the player to fist or pass the ball away, and score by doing so, that should allow for the player landing on their back not just their front.

Given the complexity, and the amount of times people have seen this replayed (no pun intended), I do feel a certain amount sympathy for the referee, as he only had a split second to make his decision. He did error however by not consulting with his umpires.

CarryOnHurling (Meath) - Posts: 169 - 14/07/2010 20:17:44    709440

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Cavan_Slasher. I know JP wasn't interested in a replay but none of the rest of the panel made their opinions known, the manager has stated though that he would love a replay . I myself wasn't interested in a replay as i see us as being the champions but that does not change the fact that the Meath team where too cowardly to offer one and in doing so they condoned the act of cheating.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 14/07/2010 21:58:26    709659

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Cavan_Slasher. I know JP wasn't interested in a replay but none of the rest of the panel made their opinions known, the manager has stated though that he would love a replay . I myself wasn't interested in a replay as i see us as being the champions but that does not change the fact that the Meath team where too cowardly to offer one and in doing so they condoned the act of cheating.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 14/07/2010 21:58:27    709661

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jokerofthelane theres a very big difference between a point and a goal and there is an even bigger difference between the first round of the leinster and the lenister final so i would advise u to stay on the meath subject unless u want to take it up on the westmeath forum and see what happens then

jack94 (Westmeath) - Posts: 8 - 15/07/2010 10:44:46    709833

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theres a very big difference between a point and a goal and there is an even bigger difference between the first round of the leinster and the lenister final

So you're saying for a replay to be offered it depends whether its a final or not, or if its a goal or a point?!?! Ridiculous comment, where do you draw the line?!

wideasagate (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 15/07/2010 11:29:35    709903

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RTE website ran a pole should the leinster council offer Louth a replay,

Yes 75% (25,503 votes)
No 25% (8,352 votes)
Total Votes: 33,855

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 15/07/2010 20:27:07    710915

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I respect the stat gael but i've moved on am sure everyone else did so why don't you.

francie81 (Louth) - Posts: 250 - 15/07/2010 21:56:07    711059

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Well said Francie, finally a man that has accepted the 'wrong' and moved on. Whats done is done, not Meaths fault. It was Human error that cannot be reversed. I wish the rest of your fellow countymen would be as dignified as you. Just put it under yer hat and use it as motivation for the next oppurtunity, as things like this usually have a habit of fixing themselves sooner or later. What goes around, usually comes back around, so bide your time lads.

Enough of the BOO HOOO HOOO!! Poor Louth b*ll*x.

Alias (Tipperary) - Posts: 463 - 16/07/2010 16:03:26    711667

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Fair enough francie81 and Alias, i'm going to leave it and won't be posting here on it anymore but the comment that it is not Meaths fault is wrong because the stat is about a replay and it is the Meath teams fault that there was no replay, Christy Cooney today stated that the leinster council had not the power to offer a replay but were in contact with Meath all day Monday and Tuesday trying to get them to offer a replay as were many ex players, pundits and Sean Kelly ex president but the players wouldn't have any of it although a lot of the papers are reporting there was a small minotiry who did want a replay stating that "winning a leinster shouldn't feel like this".
I also would like to say that it is strange listening to a Louth fan say move on, 53 years is a long time and when we do actually win it is taken from us, i think being told to move on a few days later is a bit much but then i know you don't follow the team until the championship so it might be easier for you.

Louth Gael (Louth) - Posts: 1227 - 16/07/2010 17:37:26    711806

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Louth Gael - thats twice ya said that haa

Ryan13 (Meath) - Posts: 28 - 16/07/2010 18:21:39    711858

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Statement by Christy Cooney earlier today 'It would be fair to say that we would have all like to have seen a replay.' 'Meath decided otherwise'
He also commended the Louth players for their actions after the final whistle.
This is of course after central council passed the buck to Meath county board to make a decision (who in turn passed that baton onto the players)

And they accuse the Dublin footballers of playing to the gallery.
Tell the public they want to hear Christy. Louth are good, Meath are bad.

Strong leadership is overrated & outdated anyhow.
Pandering however, is definitely in vogue.

Royalty (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 16/07/2010 18:31:39    711870

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http://audioserver.todayfm.com/audio/breakfast/Gift_louthaid.mp3

BBD (Meath) - Posts: 228 - 16/07/2010 18:33:25    711874

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Jack94 I'd gladly take it up no problem theres no difference my friend at the end of the day was the game replayed?? it doesnt matter if it was a first round or final it wasnt replayed... as I said before it was a shame Louth didnt get a replay but we have to move on its football these things happen before and no doubt will happen again. it was a ridiculious comment maybe ya should stay on your own board and stop worrying whats going on over here...

jokerofthelane (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 16/07/2010 19:51:38    711949

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Reading a few of your comments,i feel that Louth played the best football throughout the game,however as we all know you never beat a Meath team until the final whistle blows,and football being football can be cruel as we all know,but its whats on the scoreboard at the end of the game counts

thebignun (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 16/07/2010 21:44:25    712094

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I cannot understand why meath did not offer Louth a replay. It is very hard to defend in arguements . Louth are not great . From looking at some comments from Louth people its hard to figure out if thety were at the same match that i was at . First of all they got a relatively easy run to the final, secondly they owned the ball for most of the 2nd half. in the first 20mins of the 2nd half the ball only came into the meath half twice, and still coming into injury time meath were only 1 point down . I didnt think it could get any better than that balmy saturday evening in navan in 2002.Or the saturday in croke park when Dessie Dolan missed that free. If only Seamus kenny had rolled that ball into the net .

29june2002 (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 16/07/2010 22:02:52    712121

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Meath were too afraid to offer a replay because they knew they would be beat. Their medals are useless/tarnished, nobody around the country will value these medals as Louth were the true Leinster Champions 2010

Joe_Don (Louth) - Posts: 247 - 17/07/2010 09:46:45    712127

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joe, all done and dusted,at the end of the day its meaths name etched on the base of the cup!..sorry

maco (Meath) - Posts: 357 - 17/07/2010 10:43:29    712143

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