No1 said the better junior clubs would win the inter, the point was they would hold their own in mid-table and are running away with the junior... They wouldnt beat Tourmak, Westport, etc but could push balyhaunis, eastern geals, achill etc So maybe there could be a reshuffle to allow these teams into the intermediate championship?

The point Trixy made about balyhaunis getting well beaten in connacht shows that maybe the level in mayo has dippedcompared to the other counties...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 02/07/2008 19:51:39    42001

Eternal optimist persists with his ``inferiority complex``jibe,then cites Islandeady and The Neale as potential clubs for Intermediate level.They are not the only two.The League carve up some years back gave a lot of clubs ``Intermediate`` status.This status is superficial now because many of them just meander along happy to avoid Junior and with no ambition to
go Senior.The last four Junior championship winners Cill Chomain,Aughamore,Crossmolina B and Achill are holding their Intermediate status comfortably having earned it the hard way.Many present day ``Intermediate`` clubs have never won a serious County title,and show all the signs of it in their attitude on and off the field.
Slagging me off with the ``inferiority complex``jibe wont account for ``eternal optimists ``lack of factual knowledge

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 03/07/2008 12:10:53    42287

Trixy, I honestly don't know why you have taken a personal vendetta against the Intermediate Championship. I can assure you my knowledge of Mayo club football is very good between Junior, Intermediate and Senior. The Master isn't exactly helping your case by confusing Ballyhaunis with Ballintubber and claiming Easern Gaels are Intermediate. You claim many clubs are content at Intermediate and haven't won many titiles. This is true of all levels. Senior has several clubs that rarely challenge for titles yet appear in no danger of relegation any year. The Junior Competition is relatively weak this year. I still maintain that only Islandeady and the Neale might survive at Intermediate level, and by survive I mean maybe escape relegation. All you have to do is take a look at league positions. Islandeady are bottom of Division 1b, not a bad feat and above a lot of Intermediate clubs. The Neale are finishing near the head of the table in 1c but outside of that it's very poor. Killala have been comprehensively beaten in most games this year and are already relegated. Ballyhaunis are eally struggling this year and may be a Junior club next year. You referred to them as a "giant" club. Don't know anyone else who shares that opinion.

Ballintubber are a good club on the way up with an excellent underage structure. They will be a senior club for years to come. The intermediate clubs you mention that got promoted are doing well because they all invested time in Bord na nÓg. Achill, Kilcommon and Aghamore have very young teams.

Realistically, name more than the Neale and Islandeady of the Junior clubs who could play at Intermediate level. They don't exist!!

EternalOptimist (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 03/07/2008 14:49:13    42416

Oops sorry, meant balintubber and Mayo Geals, still tho, my points about them stand... I think the intermediate championship could be extended to allow Islandeady, Ardnaree and The Neale to compete with teams at their level... It would also give the clubs a bit of impetence to push on, as well as even up the junior championship... Its proving harder to win the junior than survive in the intermediate, which really shouldnt be the case

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 03/07/2008 18:24:34    42604

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Eternal optimist you need to go to more games.
Only one team can get promoted from Junior.Since the ``system``concerning League status was revoked a load of so called Intermediate teams have occupied Intermediate status without putting in any realistic effort.Cop yourself on, last years
Junior final was the quality game of the year.The standard of play and level of fitness in many Intermediate games has been dire.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 03/07/2008 19:46:08    42624

This is really getting pathetic. I asked you to name any other team besides the Neale and Islandeady who wouldn't embarrass themselves at Intermediate and you ignored it. Teams get promoted and relegated on merit, it's a fair system. I don't agree with only one team getting promoted. It should be two up, two down. I think that's only the case for this year as there are 17 teams in Intermediate. Last year only one team geot promoted from Intermediate because 17 teams were in Senior.

EternalOptimist (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 04/07/2008 10:42:56    42801

Lads i suppose the easiest way to kinda finish this is to say that everyone seems to think that islandeady and the neale are the two strongest junior teams and if so both will be playing inter in the next two yrs. it will then be up to them like aghamore, kilcommon and other last few winners of the junior have done to push these inter teams that Trixy talks about, just hanging around the inter, down to junior. but unlike the master i dont think they should be just accommodated to inter as this will make a joke of the effort achill for instance put in last yr to make it to the inter grade. after all the better teams 90% of the time will win out

jim jim (Mayo) - Posts: 117 - 04/07/2008 15:18:20    43063

Good idea Jim Jim and the right way to put the debate on the back boiler for a while.Let the games commence.!!

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 05/07/2008 13:38:17    43333

does anyone know if the neale can play in both mayo junior championship and galway junior championship as they have players from both counties playing with them

mayogaa (Mayo) - Posts: 38 - 07/07/2008 09:38:33    43636

Nice try mayogaa, but you'll have to be a bit more subtle with your wind-ups if you want someone to bite!!!

Did you go to all the trouble of setting up an account for that??

essexile (Mayo) - Posts: 429 - 07/07/2008 10:59:15    43727

so does that mean that the neale can only play in the galway championship as most of their nplayers seem to be from galway this year. Also they should be getting the ticket allocation for the connacht final off galway county board. It would be a shame for tickets from mayo county board going to galway supporters

mayogaa (Mayo) - Posts: 38 - 07/07/2008 14:50:39    43994

Hey Mayo G.A.A.,dont bother slagging off the Neale.Yes their League form has been impressive,but they have a poor championship record especially in Finals.A few imports from Galway seem to be causing an unnecessary``stir``on this message board.The Neale have a big area to pick from including an actual geographical part of Galway.Therefore they have always had ``Galway``players and not much silverware.Their neighbours have all generally played at a higher level despite this`` Galway influence``. The Junior championship big guns this year are Islandeady,Ardnaree and the Neale.Good each way bets are Lahardane ,Aughamore B and Charlestown B

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 07/07/2008 16:41:37    44110

anyone know when the last 16 draw is on and when are those games being played..??

new comer (Mayo) - Posts: 121 - 21/07/2008 02:31:01    52251

trixy im not trying to cause trouble but ur being misleading about the galway influence.they might get a few galway players from the boundaries but the lads we are talking about are from caherlistrane and theres no way they can be referred to as anywhere near ur parish.

techland (Galway) - Posts: 494 - 22/07/2008 11:56:53    53697

Techland

Theres nobody denyin that the neale have got players trnsfered from charlistrane.....but these lads have been living in the parish for almost 2 years now! Can they not just get on down to business with there new club where they are happy!

Lads....this forum was set up for predictions for the junior championship and not to sole talk about individual players,brothers or the neale!

Islaneady,Ardnaree,The Neale and a toss up between Killala,Lahardane,Carramore and Balla for the semi finalists

theparish (None) - Posts: 22 - 22/07/2008 13:26:38    53812

i was just making a point. i went to school with alot of the neale lads and have great time for them. best of luck to them against killala at the weekend.

techland (Galway) - Posts: 494 - 22/07/2008 14:37:38    53904

Yeah,the game between the Neale and Killala doesnt matter as both are qualified.The Neale could go all the way this year.

Brinsley Swartz (Mayo) - Posts: 2225 - 23/07/2008 18:38:20    55224

trixy im not trying to cause trouble but ur being misleading about the galway influence.they might get a few galway players from the boundaries but the lads we are talking about are from caherlistrane and theres no way they can be referred to as anywhere near ur parish.

The two Caherlistrane lads live in the parish, their mother is from the parish, their cousins, granfather, nephews, nieces, etc live in the parish. They are squad players. I would hardly call them an 'import'. Enough.

mayojoe (Mayo) - Posts: 262 - 23/07/2008 20:17:34    55268

mayojoe i was happy enough to leave it until ur comment. the lads played for caherlistrane since they were 8/9 years old so to say they are not imports is bull. they would still be playing for the queallys only for a row the monaghan family had with their senior management. speaking of the monaghans they are the nicest bunch of lads u could meet.

techland (Galway) - Posts: 494 - 24/07/2008 13:02:17    55776

do ye reckon dat d junior championship will be delayed along with d intermediate and senior championships due to mayos involvement in intercounty champioship???
The draw for last 16 is to be made atfer bank holiday weekend!!!!
The Neale still look like favourites, followed closely by islandeady. dey cud get each other n nxt round!!

warrior (Mayo) - Posts: 98 - 24/07/2008 14:28:16    55898