Easy Road Is Blocked - 9 Like(s)
First year of super 8's and Kerry don't make a semi final. Canavan is right and is probably talking for counties who have had unfair paths in years gone by. The days of Kerry walking into the last 4 in first gear seem to be a thing of the past. Super 8's if nothing else ensures fairness, it might prove to an unpopular change in Kerry going forward.
sam1884 (National) - 04/08/2018 20:15:27
NFL Division 1 - 8 Like(s)
For all the talk of Meath being a top 8 team and making inroads today confirms what a lot of neutrals already knew. A 10 point defeat in Navan is quite a result for Donegal, no Meath team in the past would have allowed such an embarassing result. Meath are in the top 14 teams but a long way from the top 6. They wouldn't be guaranteed promotion if they were playing Div 2 this year never mind trying to compete in Div 1. My prediction was they'll end pointless and it's hard to see that not happening after today - sad state of affairs for such a great footballing county.
sam1884 (National) - 02/02/2020 16:48:07
Best Of This Generation - 8 Like(s)
The thread started with "2005 to 2020"; that is 15 years worth of teams and players. Within that period we had a decade where the best team ever to play our game was at it's peak; a team that achieved something never achieved before and likely never will again ( 5 in a row). A team that when put up against his direct opponents in their era in big finals their big players performed; made a difference and ultimately never lost one of these big finals. The great JMCG caught them with his tactical ability but they learnt quick and didn't come back to lose more big games after it like good teams in previous era's or even this era.
Most neutral football people acknowledge and will acknowledge further how special this team is; it's ok for Kerry to mention money as you have done but conventient not to mention the significant sponsorship advantage Kerry had for years (that's another argument).
Of course Kerry had great players during 2005 to 2020 but it's my view they didn't perform in the big tests of 05 and 08; they didn't beat their main rivals in that era and have been fairly average from 2010 - 2020 winning the 14 final which again I thought they were lucky to do.
For those reasons I don't see any of their players in the top 5 from the period mentioned; if it was 2000 to 2010 then yes but over the past 15 years the top 5 I choose were well ahead of any Kerry players in that era but it's not a surprise when you look at the consistent performances over 10 of those years from them 5 and when you acknowledge just how special Dublin were; there could be argument all 5 should come from there.
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sam1884 (National) - 04/10/2020 07:30:14
NFL Division 1 - 7 Like(s)
Whilst it's nice to see fans supporting their county Meath were never going to win today. My prediction is Meath will be pointless at the end of Div 1 which shows the gap between Div 1 and Div 2.
sam1884 (National) - 26/01/2020 20:00:44
Meath - 7 Like(s)
Meath football does not seem to be getting any better. Is there a link between all counties bringing strength and conditioning to a new level and Meath no longer being competitive?! The traditional strength of Meath football can be easily matched now, which appears to be stopping them making any progress. For a county it's size they are gone again, before the Leinster final is even played.
sam1884 (National) - 09/07/2017 08:54:16
All Ireland Football Final 2020 - Dublin V Mayo - 7 Like(s)
This Dublin team are the best sporting team Ireland has ever produced; just remarkable what've achieved. Yes like all counties they've added players but the nucleus is there; Cluxton, McCarthy, Fenton, Kilkenny, Rock to name a few; footballers that would have graced any era.
Mayo whilst being in the wrong era as usual turned up in Croke Park and weren't annilated before they took the field; the same way Kerry weren't last year and the way Mickey Harte always respected this Dublin team but never allowed a narrative they're uncatchable. Yes he didn't beat them in a big championship game but did draw a super 8 game and win a few league games putting everything into catching them.
Sometimes special teams come along in sport but history shows eventually as the main players leave the stage so does the untouchable narrative.
Dublin for the first team in a decade looked flustered in the sense they didn't have calm control. The half time antics, the second half assault on Keegan, the bouncing off players to win frees is something we don't see from this group of players. I believed Mayo would win yesterday due to the short season; they competed and were right there but in the end it was clear Mayo were in fact three years too late; they missed their chance previously and yesterday didn't have the depth to go from 55mins to 75mins.
When Dublin freshened up the main areas of the field Mayo sadly for them had no answer and that was the difference.
Kerry, Mayo, Galway lets see what happens in Tyrone and I'm not sure how much is left in Donegal are building and not allowing the untouchable Dublin narrative.
Galway U20's showed yesterday they have respect for their county and won't throw in the towel. Other proud football counties need to build their own castle and be in a position to one day beat Dublin; I fear for many the psychological damage is extensive and in a few years even an average Dublin team will beat some before entering the field.
Galway showed yesterday Dublin football isn't successful due to money; it's just the senior team are a very special set of players, we should respect them whilst they're around, as they are and will be GAA legends for generations to come. However I don't think 10 will happen; I sense we're getting closer to the day Sam is handed over to someone else; sadly it won't be to an another Leinster county.
sam1884 (National) - 20/12/2020 10:32:11
David Gough To Referee The Final - 6 Like(s)
As mentioned in another post Kerry's problem isn't the ref lives and works in Dublin. Kerry are doing two things -
1) Intimidate the referee, try and get a ref who is in awe of Kerry and is afraid to make a big call (2009 All Ireland Final throw in incident)
2) Get a fussy ref who will slow the game down, fall for Kerry cynical tactics and give them easy frees (Deegan in this years semi final)
Gough is neither of the things Kerry want, he's the best referee in the country who will allow a fast paced game of football and won't be intimidated by either team. Kerry's tactics in previous finals won't work with Gough, he won't be biased in any way and won't allow any previous success or tradition to alter his decisions - with Gough in charge the best team on the day usually wins.
Kerry simply didn't want him because he is such a fair referee who they can't imtimidate or fool, nothing to do with him living in Dublin, he is a Meath man at the end of day who hardly have much love for Dublin so Kerry's argument is hilarious and didn't fool the referee committee.
sam1884 (National) - 14/08/2019 16:32:04
MONEY - 6 Like(s)
I have to laugh at a Tyrone poster talking about money! I'm unsure if you followed or remember the GAA a mere decade ago. There are dozens of articles, radio/tv shows and marketing opportunites promoting the club Tyrone concept.
It was preached how a GAA county were ahead of their time in putting together a business which had representation on the county board. We were told about the finance, cultural aspect of this concept with the aim of improving Tyrone GAA. We were given this as one the reasons the county won All Irelands and with their forward thinking approach would dominate for years to come.
We then seen the plans for a professional training centre never seen in the GAA before with better facilities than all northern sporting organisations including Ulster Rugby.
Tyrone over a period of time were able to far outspend other Ulster counties and it appeared they'd dominate the province whilst ramming their financal muscle down the throats of rivals. Historical neighbours simply couldn't compete; not due to coaching or players but purely down to the sheer amount of finance going into preparation.
This is the reason one of the first things McGuinness did as Donegal manager was tap into his counties ex pat potential. When he had the finance he targeted Tyrone more than anybody else and when Tyrone and Donegal were at a level playing field finance wise Donegal under McGuinness easily took care of Tyrone and stopped the Tyrone plan of using finance to dominate Ulster and beyond.
They still possess a professional training centre but the initial plan hasn't worked which is part of Tyrone's frustration. There are now five top counties in the country generating eye watering sums of money for coaching and preparation. These counties are miles ahead but amongst their own small group they can all spend the same amount of money on preparation making it innaccurate Dublin are purely winning because of finance.
The top 5 counties will not be caught for a generation and are living a life the others can only dream about. If you want to enter this exclusive group counties have to find a way to finance it. Tyrone, Mayo, Donegal and Kerry in particular have no right to cry about Dublin's finance as they are part of the same group.
sam1884 (National) - 30/09/2019 15:58:35
The Corona Virus And Possible Effects To GAA Matches - 6 Like(s)
Someone said Meath want the championship cancelled; I don't think that is the agenda at all. I think the truth is they didn't want the national league restarted as they're about to finish pointless. Yes the county who celebrated being "back where they belong" "making inroads on the top teams after years in the doldrums are going back to Div 2 tails between their legs with a points total of zero.
Yes we have a pandemic and safety is and always has to be the priority. If it's safe then the games will continue this year and if not the national league will be finished prior to a new season commencing. It's obvious from the Meath posters here; what they really want is everything cancelled and for them to start back afresh in Div 1. That isn't going to happen!
sam1884 (National) - 17/10/2020 20:58:27
Houses In Order? - 6 Like(s)
The fact is Dublin were relatively late to the commerical/financial game. Yes they had Arnott's but where a long way from reaching their potential. Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone through the lucrative Club Tyrone model all had hundreds of thousands of pounds being pumped into them and still do. This is just to name three but there are others.
Yes Dublin receive funding from the GAA for coaching and games across a huge population. I'm not naive not to see the GAA are facing challenging times, now Dublin GAA have got their commercial house in order.
A lot of frustration coming from other major counties, is because they had that advantage for decades and don't like they're now facing a new richer problem. In saying that there are a number of counties who were well able to afford multi million pound training centres, expensive training weekends, full time coaching staff to manage sports science and to spend close to one million euro in preparing county teams. It's the middle tier counties that now see a number of super powers above them.
sam1884 (National) - 05/03/2021 20:38:52
The Last 5 Years In Football - 5 Like(s)
Football was hardly the strongest during Kerry's 4 in-a-row with Dublin gone, Ulster in turmoil and Galway/Mayo fairly weak at the time. But yet that team is seen as the best ever yet in a stronger era this Dublin team "only won All Ireland's because of other counties being weak at this time". A great team is never given credit whilst they remain successful, it will be in twenty years time people look back and acknowledge just how special they were. Due to the agenda of people they probably have to win the 5 to leave no doubt they are the best ever because some just don't want to acknowledge their success.
sam1884 (National) - 21/03/2019 15:12:38
Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 5 Like(s)
It's very hard to compare different era's and debates often take different angles. Despite the era teams have rivals, challengers and the need to prepare and remain focused. The reality is Kerry were unable to win the 5 in a row whereas Dublin were so statistically Dublin are the best and without any arguments have achieved something no team has achieved.
It's true Kerry used more of the same players but not to mention that era would leave a huge gap in the debate. For one the national football league was as many players have acknowledged "a p*** up" or a tour of the country with a ball threw onto a field at some stage over the weekend.
Ireland was in deep recession and there was no sign of the Celtic tiger leaving in particular little challenge coming from the Connacht Championship. The vast majority of Ulster was at war with the obvious problems those teams would have encountered. It's little coincidence when things started to somewhat settle in Ulster a number of All Ireland's were won in the 90's.
Munster as always was a hurling province moreso in those days with little thought or effort put into football and of course there was no back door. That left the Kerry team with one game to win in Munster and in reality only one challenger (Leinster Champions) in the All Ireland series. With no competitive National league the Kerry four in a row team had in essence two competitive games a year. It's therefore much easier to field the same team over a number of years compared to the current era when we have much stronger competitions, back door and a much larger workload.
I don't think Dublin being able to freshen up whilst being successful is a critcism. They're the best team ever but by introducing new systems and new players whilst at the top shows Gavin is probably the best football manager ever as well. Cody is a legend in hurling terms but he allowed his great Kilkenny team to stay at the top together resulting in a transitional era when they stepped aside together - Gavin has been ruthless which shows in football terms he is the best already and thinks about the overall well being of the county rather than loyality to individuals like all great sporting coaches.
I know Kerry won't like it but it's only a week since the 5 in a row and already we're seeing the effect this is having. I would hope all GAA success's prior to the 5 in a row are not forgotten about but I fear with the enormity of this achievement it will overshadow anything that happened before for future generations. The Offaly 1982 team and that famous goal will be talked about less now. It's like history now starts from 2019 for generations ahead.
Dublin have changed the landscape.
sam1884 (National) - 22/09/2019 15:07:24
Meath V Dublin Leinster Final. - 5 Like(s)
All the "money", "unfair funding", "population" cannot be blamed for a team not having the ability to kick very scorable chances and frees. Meath shooting is shocking and adds weight to the GAA's view of counties looking at their own coaching of basic skills. Today's match shows something beyond "unfairness" is an issue in Leinster. Cutting Dublin's €1.3million will not result in other teams having the basic skills to compete overnight. What has happened a big, successful, traditional county like Meath? I'm afraid the GAA are correct when questioning coaching practices in some counties. You cannot blame Dublin for this!
sam1884 (National) - 23/06/2019 17:26:40
The Dublin Trinity - 5 Like(s)
The great traditionalists in Kerry will and would be hurting at this suggestion. A county who prides itself in being the aristrocrats of football, a county who fears nobody, who respects no other county and prides itself in taking on the best of any era. Has the great Kerry GAA in 2019 now accepted they cannot take on Dublin - especially Dublin who it's great past leaders loved battling with despite the difficulities. Maybe it's a sign of the times that Kerry don't want to work out the challenge they just want it to disappear - lets split the rival so Kerry can return to their "rightful place". A massive mentality split down in the Kingdom.
sam1884 (National) - 18/09/2019 10:50:55
All Ireland Final 18 - Dublin V Tyrone - 5 Like(s)
Dublin success not going down well in Kerry!
sam1884 (National) - 30/08/2018 18:19:25
MONEY - 5 Like(s)
In terms of financing and preparing senior teams yes they are! Look at the figures coming out of the states in regards to Mayo GAA. This is only half the story; not including money from Australia and the UK. Mayo are well able to prepare a team to professional standards.
sam1884 (National) - 30/09/2019 17:10:34
Proposals For 2Nd Tier Championship Pathetic - 5 Like(s)
Without arrogance the reality is 8 teams who will potentially have to compete in Tier 2 next year voted against it. If the likes of Derry, Cork, Down, Kildare, Roscommon, Cavan, Armagh, Laois, end up in Div 3, don't get to a provinical final then don't expect any of those counties to keep their teams together to then travel the country to play a second tier competition.
I'd say they'll field some kind of team to fulfil the fixture but club championships, America and London will be the priority. If the likes of Wicklow want to play against counties "C" or "D" teams who turn up untrained and for a weekend away then fair play to them. The reality is the top brass won't care that players leave panels en masse after losing their provinicial game, they'll have their Tier 1 Championship set up which is the only priority.
The top brass talk about democracy which is very true. Players are amateur and they're allowed their own form of democracy and to make decisions which benefit them. In huge numbers they'll take the payday of America or London and the large majority of players from those counties that stay at home will spend the summer with their clubs. 16 teams was too many and you won't be able to motivate players or counties around 9th to 18th to compete or put the effort, finance and preparation into this farce.
sam1884 (National) - 20/10/2019 10:54:40
Dublin 2015 - 2019 - 5 Like(s)
History won't mention the jealousy from other counties - it will honour a great group of footballers.
sam1884 (National) - 14/09/2019 20:38:03
Best Of This Generation - 5 Like(s)
Sadly you're wasting your time; the bulk of this conversation sadly comes from Kerry. They simply don't want to hear any logic or any debate; it's the stick they've choose to discredit Dublin's dominance; as the stick in the 00's was "puke football". Back then Kerry didn't want to hear about the Dooher's, Canavan's or Cavanagh's; they had to find a way to discredit the success and the defeats Kerry suffered. When they find the reason, nobody will shift their belief as they simply don't want to admit Kerry are just second best or even further back. As a result I wouldn't entertain it; the vast majority of neutrals, media, gaels respect Dublin's success; the same way they respect Tyrone comfortably had Kerry's number in the 00's. Yes there is a number of number questioning finance in other counties but that's more to do with the relentless Kerry campaign.
sam1884 (National) - 11/10/2020 16:15:51
MONEY - 4 Like(s)
Kerry are truly hurting over Dublin's success. I can't see Kerry people getting over this success. The only research that needs mentioned is Kerry failed in 1982 and all other GAA teams have also failed. Dublin won the 5 and if I was a Kerry person I'd keep the hurt out of national domains and try to get over it amongst Kerry GAA channels. It's becoming painful to watch for other GAA folk.
sam1884 (National) - 24/09/2019 11:41:51