Meath Vs Down - 27 Like(s)
You're deluding yourself thinking anyone wants the Meath job, never mind a top class manager, it's clear as day last year no one did… they ruled themselves out one by one…. it was a straight shoot out between O'Rourke or Flynn (who you yourself didn't want), that's it…. You scoffed at me for suggesting the likes of Paul Curran, Paul Clarke, Mick Deegan, Declan D'Arcy, Jayo Sherlock or Davey Byrne… we don't need Dubs you said… davey burke was an option but no one considered him good enough… robbie Brennan was screwed because he was tied to Flynn…. McDermott wasn't considered good enough internally…. You're now screaming for O'Bric… he's no Paul Kenny with a serial success rate at underage….. you're dreaming of Fitzmaurice but it ain't going to happen… a young man with a family… commuting almost 2k a week (3 sessions minimum )… never in your wildest dreams Who are these high class managers begging for the Meath job…. They're about as common as you having a good point Sligo got to a Connaught final and all Ireland series beating London and New York… think most teams could get there doing that…. Kildare couldn't beat them… Roscommon and Dublin will top that group at a canter. BTW, both those teams are in year two under Ryan and McEntee… so they're used to a system and style… neither were stand outs last year.. You're saying we're underdogs v Down….. Sure haven't you been telling us they're better than us… but also telling us they were useless last year. Again here's the context, their manager is in his first year and has brought back the Kilcoo team members who won an all Ireland club last year… down were a shambles in 2022 and couldn't win a game…. But against your beloved Andy McEntee and his Meath team they got a result…. Without the Kilcoo contingent.. You told us ad nauseum last year the players loved McEntee and would go through walls for him… that training was great and efforts on the pitch didn't reflect the efforts going in…..and this with a management team in its sixth year… Well guess what, the same is pretty true of what we're hearing this year… with a first year management team… and with a panel which has had 9 or 10 championship debutants… all in their first year on the panel (Brennan, O'Neill, O'Higgins, Flood, O'Regan, Coffey, Gray, Frayne, Lynch and Wyer, Caulfield & O'Halloran also in the mix) You're also claiming there's people from clubs voicing concerns to you… from Ratoath, Colmcilles, Summerhill … funny thing is I spoke to some members from those clubs too plus multiple clubs in north Meath and whilst they're unhappy at results they're honest enough to say time is needed.. You're telling everyone here how wrong they are, yet it's you who's the sole voice slandering management... People are frustrated but they're trying to be constructive in what they say. People mightn't like O'Rourke but they're willing to give him time. Only one person in here hammers him no matter what he does… Anyone saying a team should ignore what management are saying to them (which you said) has no respect for the team or the management. I don't think one person left the panel after the Offaly defeat, so I think they're well invested in what Colm is selling. You're talking about irreparable damage, what's removing Colm after a year going to do only add more damage and add to a national laughing stock Meath football has become. What happens when you don't get your top class manager… when O'Bric or McCarthy gets appointed and they fail… are you going to want them moved on during the season…. brian (Meath) - 29/05/2023 23:54:55 |
Counties Missed Opportunities.... - 22 Like(s)
Just to respond to you, the point of the thread is about missed opportunities. In the last 9 years Kerry haven't been close to Dublin to have had missed opportunities. On your own points 1) Who's trolling and stirring the pot. Kerry posters have a penchant of turning every thread into a how Kerry have been mistreated and Dublin get everything. Do you forget that there's huge money going into Kerry football by Kerry Group every year!!! Compared to any other county in the land you've the biggest sponsorship deals outside of Dublin and Glanbia (Kilkenny in Hurling) Its your own fault you can't capitalise on that huge pot of gold you have. 2) You're replies are monotenous and always the same poor mouth, us Kerry folks are not getting enough blah blah. What right have you to tell anyone to get back in their box other than the usual Kerry thing of looking down their nose at everyone. 3) You got jumped on cos you deserve it. Your points are always the same boring BS. Don't address me as your friend. If i'd friends like you i wouldn't need enemies. You highlight the GAA's blatant favouritism of the Dubs every day and your vinyl record is scratched to the back of beyonds. Change your tune. Why should i jog on? If any counties have a right to cry foul about the Dubs its the 10 other football playing counties in Leinster but we're made of tougher stuff up here and just get on with things. We deal with our own house first rather than complaining about the emperor's new clothes. Stockholm syndrome ;) yep that made me LOL. And the deafult kerry response from you and other posters is to slag off other counties and say what have you won. I beat you to the punch it by saying we've nothing to be talking about. Anything else you'd like to whinge and moan about??? I'm here all day. brian (National) - 20/07/2020 16:17:52 |
Meath Senior Football Team 2021 - 21 Like(s)
brian (Meath) - 21/05/2021 16:28:45 |
Meath 2024 - 20 Like(s)
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Meath Senior Football Team 2021 - 20 Like(s)
I'd have to disagree with you on way you've graded the current Meath team and the tiers you'd have. 2020 was a poor year in terms pf what we did but lets not forget we were without several key players for parts or all of the year. Padraic Harnan and Shane Gallagher (who I've been critical off previously) missed the whole season. Andy Colgan never got a chance again during the whole year after doing and ACL. James Mcentee missed the Championship and Michael Newman retired. Graham Reilly played little to no part at all. That was 6 starters missing from a team that got us promoted and to a Leinster Final and super 8's in 2019. In there place we had Brennan (who was a disaster), David Toner (first year as a starter), Matthew Costello (19, first year on the panel), Ronan Jones (first year back after 2 years out of football) Shane Walsh and Jordan Morris (19/20 year olds in their first full year as panelists). You can make up for the lack of experience we lost with the first group of players, all of whom were key players in the first 15. I'd also add that Seamus Lavin and Conor McGill two of our best players in 2019 were both dealing with injuries all year and weren't close to 100% fit at any stage. I think we have a deflated sense of the Meath team based on the Dublin match. We are easily the second best team in Leinster. We've beaten everyone we've had to in 2019 and 2020. Yes Kildare were pathetic in the second half but the team still went out and tore them assunder and put a stake through them when it mattered. Laois and Westmeath are nothing to write home about. I'd would say this Meath team are somewhere between the 6th and 12th best team in the country. Dublin, Tyrone, Donegal, Kerry and Mayo are ahead of them. They're in a group of teams with Galway, Monaghan, Armagh, Roscommon that could all beat each other. Galway are nothing special, Monaghan are fading and Armagh and Roscommon are yoyo teams that go up and down the divisions. Until they are more consistent we can't claim they are better than Meath. Cork, Tipp and Cavan are all mythized due to one performance last year by each of them. I think this current team would beat all three teams with 3-4 points to spare. Meath over the last two years have beaten the teams they should beat and are closing the gap to the teams ahead of them. To bridge that gap and I agree with your assessment Andy is unlikely to stay after 21 we need to build on the work Andy has done. The bones of a good team are there and they need a manager and collectiveness to drive themselves forward. Andy has his blind spots which the whole country knows and he doesn't see or refuses to address. A new manager coming into this team will have identified 1) goalkeeper - a dependable keeper who commands his area, is a good shot stopper (TBF Colgan isn't bad here) and organises his defence. You rarely see Colgan and definitely not brennan giving the lads in front of them guidance on what they as a keeper are seeing. Its there responsibility to organise that. 2) Kick Out startegy - or lack there off. For all Nally's talk of how to use a kick out srategy and where we should or shouldn't kick a ball, we seem inept at gaining parity or above in kickouts which all of the top teams do. We easily cough up 4 scores a game or more with it and until that is sorted out we're starting the game at a disadvantage. 3) Free kicks - we don't have a proper natural free taker or even someone involved who is looking after this. Brian Stafford (the greatest free taker i saw) wasn't a natural free taker but Sean got Brian chatting to the great Ollie Campbell, and Staff developed his style and composure over the years to the extent where it was almost automatic from within the 45 that he'd score. In 2020 we'd no designated free taker and in games we'd several players taking free's and 45's. Was it the Wicklow game where we'd 6 or 7 45's and about 5 players had a go?? I remember Costello taking two and one of them he looked like he had no technique other than to kick it as hard as he could. I think Morris, Menton and Thomas O'reilly also had a go and none were close. This failure invites teams to foul us as we're giving up another 4/5 scores from dropping balls short or wide. Every top team is over 90% conversion rate from free's and we're barley 60%, that number has to improve. Know that's a long post so hopefully raise a few more points for people to chat about but i don't think it's the doom and gloom many are saying it is and one bad game is stuck in peoples minds. Lets not forget Cavan lost by 15 in an all ireland semi final, Tipp lost by 13 points and no one is telling you they are bad teams. brian (Meath) - 05/04/2021 13:02:50 |
Meath V Dublin - 19 Like(s)
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Meath Senior Football Team 2021 - 19 Like(s)
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New Players For 2021 - 19 Like(s)
Brennan should never be allowed pull on the jersey again. His lack of physicality for the second goal alone showed he's not up to intercounty standards. Heaven forbid he goes through the player and clears the ball rather than turn sideways and pull out of a challenge. Colgan if he walked after being ignored for the championship couldn't be blamed. He's not a bad keeper just not an intercounty top end keeper. Solutions to this problem. Andy tries keepers 12,13,14 and 15 before the league and we're back with David Gallagher or Big Joe during the league. I'd imagine the Dunboyne keeper gets a call up (regardless of whether or not they're good enough) seeing as Andy doesn't seem to look passed Dunboyne players on his panel. That's not a knock on Dunboyne btw, more the blinkered vision Andy has towards that club. brian (Meath) - 09/12/2020 12:32:36 |
Meath Vs Tipperary - 19 Like(s)
Yesterday was progress but let's not talk about that… let's not talk about the fact that Colm was brave after a poor league and brought in Sean Coffey and Ronan Ryan and others from the development panel… that after Offaly he dropped Harry hogan, brought in Sean Brennan, Conor Gray and Aaron Lynch …. That Brennan, Coffey, Ryan,Gray and Lynch were amongst the best we had yesterday or that it shows Colm is willing to make hard calls and accept when he's been wrong…. No no no let's not talk about that at all… Let's not talk about the fact that there was structure and a game plan there, that you could see what this team was trying to do, that both sides of the ball the plan was clear on what they were doing. Or that as the game developed that this team opened up their shoulders and kicked for home, that our kick outs looked functional for the first time in living memory… no no… let's not talk about that… We're there faults, plenty of them… we left about 8-10 scores out there, that decision making at the start was poor, that we allowed some easy scores to be kicked with no pressure on the kicker wasn't good, that we gave the ball away a lot wasn't good,that Jordan Morris was again I'll disciplined and got himself sent off again was a poor look…. But as the game went on you could see the tension go out of the players and they played better with each passing minute… None of that matters.. Points must be scored and let's talk about a question he was asked by media… let's not have a manager give his honest opinion…. But yet it was okay for our previous manager to have to be restrained by his own players from striking an official…. In fact I seem to remember said poster saying it's a pity the previous manager was held back… This job was never ever going to be easy, Colm O'Rourke taking it on was only going to it… as the next generation of media pundits could now line up and get their speak in about Colm and what he's said about them or their counties in the Independent and on the Sunday game over the last 25 years. He might not have been the best choice but he's the man in charge right now and he deserves everyone's support… Btw didn't said poster say he was going to go out and find some new players for the next manager for next year. Wonder how that's going for him. He missed out on seeing plenty of them last night in the likes of Coffey, Brennan, Lynch, Gray, O'Neill, O'Higgins and Ronan Ryan. Last I think Meath should beat Waterford and secure a quarter final and hopefully from there as the team develops they can show their true ability. Winning 4-6 games in a row would be really good for this team going forward. Look at how Derry developed from division 4 with winning consistently and going up the divisions, that's what we needed and why I wasn't averse to playing Tailteann cup this summer. Build that winning habit and confidence going into 2024. As a great former manager (one Andrew McEntee) said losing can become a habit just as much as winning.. brian (Meath) - 14/05/2023 13:14:10 |
Ballymun Vs Kilmacud - 19 Like(s)
brian (National) - 16/09/2020 11:57:12 |
Four Teams Representing Dublin Geographic Area! - 19 Like(s)
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New Players For 2021 - 19 Like(s)
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Meath V Tyrone - 19 Like(s)
brian (Meath) - 07/01/2020 10:59:35 |
New Meath Manager - 19 Like(s)
The only person i see on here on here throwing out abuse is yourself with your constant reference to Keyboard warriors and calling anyone who picks you up on things a nameless faceless bully that you will stand up too. I'd say 95% of the lads and ladies on here are critical of what they saw on the pitch and lack of preparation from Andy and his management team and they hope these things are fixed. And rightly so, people are paying hard earned money to travel and support the team and time's are tough, so i think they're entitled to talk about it on a forum which is there to allow people to do so. It seems anyone who's critical is a keyboard warrior or condoning them in your eyes. Yet when the hard questions are asked of you you clam up and don't respond. I seem to remember you hammering the players last week claiming they're just not good enough despite blowing them up 6 weeks ago before they faced Dublin, and that history might reflect well on Andy (and i see the point you're making). You were well able to hammer 30+ lads who are giving of their time, energy and efforts but when i asked you if that wasn't abuse there wasn't a dickie bird from you in response as you knew you'd no leg to stand on. For the last god knows how long you've hammered Mick O'Dowd relentlessly, long after he was no longer involved you still blamed him for faults with the team, again a man who gave of his time in the same manner as Andy and yes he wasn't good enough for the job and committed just as many mistakes as Andy but yet I don't think one person said you were abusing him, until you started on about how everyone was abusing Andy and that it was a poison chalice. As I've said to you many times before, maybe think before you speak and stop being so confrontational, everyone here is entitled to an opinion what ever that is. Try and understand their point of view, as they do with you and that no one is on here abusing anyone, merely discussing something they're just as passionate about as you are. brian (Meath) - 20/06/2022 10:15:14 |
Ballymun Vs Kilmacud - 19 Like(s)
You said and i quote "There seems to be a culture of eye gouging at ballymun" So are you saying they're all told to go out and do it. You're claiming theirs a culture of it in Ballymun. How many thousands of players in the ballymun clubs are there? One player in a Dublin jersey appeared to do it. Never conclusively proven he did, same with the case at the weekend. Two incidents about 5 years removed from each other but there's a culture of it.... But as usual the Kerry lads have to get in the digs at Dubs. Jeez ye really do yourselves no favours at all lads. The bitterness is clear to Stevie Wonder. brian (National) - 15/09/2020 13:30:23 |
Tailteann Cup - 19 Like(s)
All those voices in your head don't count btw…. Conversing with one's self is a dangerous thing RD… signs of madness and all that… watch out you don't answer yourself back brian (Meath) - 08/05/2023 08:42:00 |
Where Do We Go From Here? - 18 Like(s)
BorderRoyal fair play you did throw out some names and some of those lads have been in and around the panel. I believe all of them have all been in and around the panel at various stages. They've maybe a couple of sessions to impress and they need to grab the bull by the horns. If they don't impress Andy needs move forward. How do we catch a juggernaut like Dublin, or bridge the gap to the top 6 sides if we're giving multiple guys games to impress when they're not doing it in training. Should he do to them what he did to Dominic Yorke and absolutely shatter there confidence. Andy hasn't been shy in bringing in lads if they're doing it at club level during the championship 2019 - Shane Walsh 2020 - Cathal Hickey, Eoin Harkin, Jordan Morris, Jason Scully Andy for his faults and he has a few isn't blind to lads doing it at club level from all grades. If they're performing they're brought in and given an opportunity. They should be leaving no stone unturned to make sure Andy doesn't get rid of them. brian (Meath) - 10/12/2020 09:58:01 |
The Andy Mc Factor - Tailteann Cup - 18 Like(s)
Only improve playing the better teams, how well has that serviced Meath under McEntee and O'Dowd. Bar beating Kildare in 2020 when have we beaten a team at a similar or higher standard than us. I'll wait… cos I'm pretty sure it was Kildare in 2012.. 2010 is the last time we beat a team of a higher standard v Dublin. Sligo… are you joking, they got to Sam beating London and New York…. Most teams could've done that Lost by 14 to Galway Drew with Kildare Lost by 10 to Roscommon Lost by 24 to Dublin How's that benefiting them… they were in Sam due to the draw in Connacht. Otherwise they'd have been out early in Tailteann and no one would be talking about them. Let's see how they do in division 3 next year v Clare, Limerick, Down and Antrim The reason many seem to be okay with being in the Tailteann is it's allowed us to rebuild, blood young lads, develop lots of systems and get some confidence into them. Playing at Sam level this year would've been no benefit and we'd learn nothing about these new lads, other than get hammerings v top teams. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That's what unfortunately happened Meath under Andy McEntee. He did his best but we have gone backwards since 2019. Talking about next years league, what's the point, it's 7 months away. Louth will be seriously dented after some results, Donegal are fragile, Cork are inconsistent, Kildare are inconsistent. God knows who'll be in charge of those teams next year and what might change. Meath will be under Colm and his team for a second year under, who've shown they can adapt. Worry about those things then. This year was always about building. Next year will be too and there will be dark days then too. And there will be if your new hero Cathal O'Bric gets the job. Your self imposed targets that no one else is privy too aren't how the team and county board are being judged or will be judged. We've to bridge the gap a game at a time. From what I read from this forum, most people are willing to allow the team to develop and grow gradually. brian (Meath) - 20/06/2023 14:54:09 |
Flynn Set For Meath U20 Job - 18 Like(s)
Thought the rule was that if you played senior you couldn't play U20. Was sure that was why Clifford and Sean O'Shea never played U20/21 with Kerry as they went straight into the senior team. That's what i based it on so if it's not an actual rule then ;) brian (Meath) - 19/04/2021 12:55:41 |
Best Club Players Not To Play For Meath - 18 Like(s)
But some people just want to throw rocks and sling mud. brian (Meath) - 12/03/2021 10:50:18 |