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Replying To Viking66: "How come Limerick dont have a combined schools team? Or Clare, Kilkenny, Cork, Tipp, Waterford, or Galway?" I don't think they're allowed in Munster ever since Dungarvan Colleges won the Harty Cup and the Croke Cup back in 2013?
Don't know what the deal is with Galway, Connacht A Championship is basically the Galway A Championship, think there are five Galway schools in it, could be wrong on that one
KK have a combined team at 2nd Year and Junior level, I think, not really that big a county and Kieran's and Kilkenny CBS hoover up so much of the talent there, usually then they've another school at A (Johnstown/Castlecomer/Callan), not really that many hurlers in KK outside of that
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ElGranSenor, you are right. My GF is from Tipp and its just so in-built and part of their mindset that finishing 2nd is not good enough. Years when they don't come out of Munster have plenty said within the county.
I feel in Wexford, we sort of accept losing and being average way too flippantly. Where is the anger over Saturday and the Kilkenny match? On and off the pitch. I'm not on the ground but we need to be seething over these results.
We will give the minors the benefit of the doubt because any young team can have a bad day. But if the same is repeated in the next round then it a disaster for confidence and morale in the county. Same for the u20's, we need them to at least go out and show fight and heart and give everything we can to show we are better than the last Galway performance.
Is U20 on TV or Clubber by the way? Won't see live but would get up early to watch it back.
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Replying To StoreysTash: "ElGranSenor, you are right. My GF is from Tipp and its just so in-built and part of their mindset that finishing 2nd is not good enough. Years when they don't come out of Munster have plenty said within the county.
I feel in Wexford, we sort of accept losing and being average way too flippantly. Where is the anger over Saturday and the Kilkenny match? On and off the pitch. I'm not on the ground but we need to be seething over these results.
We will give the minors the benefit of the doubt because any young team can have a bad day. But if the same is repeated in the next round then it a disaster for confidence and morale in the county. Same for the u20's, we need them to at least go out and show fight and heart and give everything we can to show we are better than the last Galway performance.
Is U20 on TV or Clubber by the way? Won't see live but would get up early to watch it back." I dont know about anger but there is negativity in the county after our recent performances. On the u20 I agree all we want is for them to go out show fight and intensity in there play the seniors seem to be lacking this. The county really needs a boost so lets hope the 20s can really put it upto this Galway team.
Its live on sport tg4 youtube as far as I know
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Aside from schools, it all begins in the clubs. We need everybody in every club relentlessly pushing each other in in the club and then every club pushing each other on.
My father was saying that in the last 2-3 years Oylegate, Cushinstown and Monageer are winning the premier titles at underage levels.
None of these clubs were playing premier underage hurling 10-20 years ago and brilliant to see them raising their standard to be able to get up to that level and win them.
But......(and no disrespect intended to any of these clubs) have they raised their standards that high OR have the standards in other clubs dropped to the point that these clubs have overtaken them?
I don't know the answer to confirm who won what and Google is not helping me. Sorry if I have the details wrong, Viking will know." Sorry Storeystash Wexford GAA website changed its results/fixtures section and the previous ones seem to be lost. Its been an ongoing problem.
Another club who have really improved through hard work is Ballyhogue. The improvement in Enniscorthy CBS results has alot to do with the work that some of the clubs you mentioned along with Ballyhogue and Oulart are doing. Lads at Blackwater are working hard also.
Barntown are also working hard and reaching premier finals, helped by the expansion of their population.
Rapps are starting to get their act back together, Gorey are getting stronger at some of the younger grades too, along with Castletown who have big numbers also.
Rathnure and St Annes are also doing massive work with their underage set ups, and although they would be so called traditional clubs they are dealing with quite small numbers.
If I havent mentioned a particular club thats not meant to be disrespectful, I dont know what's going on at every club, but Ive seen lads from u8s upwards at the clubs mentioned above and the improvement in them over the last few years.
In general since the CB made a big push for clubs to extend their seasons, train twice a week, etc around 3 or 4 years ago Ive noticed a marked improvement between u6 and u14 at most clubs Ive come across. Hopefully that will start showing at u16 and minor in the coming years. And obviously then at intercounty level.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19533 - 12/05/2026 13:31:31
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Replying To StoreysTash: "ElGranSenor, you are right. My GF is from Tipp and its just so in-built and part of their mindset that finishing 2nd is not good enough. Years when they don't come out of Munster have plenty said within the county.
I feel in Wexford, we sort of accept losing and being average way too flippantly. Where is the anger over Saturday and the Kilkenny match? On and off the pitch. I'm not on the ground but we need to be seething over these results.
We will give the minors the benefit of the doubt because any young team can have a bad day. But if the same is repeated in the next round then it a disaster for confidence and morale in the county. Same for the u20's, we need them to at least go out and show fight and heart and give everything we can to show we are better than the last Galway performance.
Is U20 on TV or Clubber by the way? Won't see live but would get up early to watch it back." U20 game is on TG4's YouTube channel, I think
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1192 - 12/05/2026 14:14:27
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Can watch the U20 game on YouTube using the following link
https://www.youtube.com/live/GD8sDUSLvH0?is=ZQP3dLfwDkEmhD3q
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1192 - 12/05/2026 14:16:59
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Replying To StoreysTash: "ElGranSenor, you are right. My GF is from Tipp and its just so in-built and part of their mindset that finishing 2nd is not good enough. Years when they don't come out of Munster have plenty said within the county.
I feel in Wexford, we sort of accept losing and being average way too flippantly. Where is the anger over Saturday and the Kilkenny match? On and off the pitch. I'm not on the ground but we need to be seething over these results.
We will give the minors the benefit of the doubt because any young team can have a bad day. But if the same is repeated in the next round then it a disaster for confidence and morale in the county. Same for the u20's, we need them to at least go out and show fight and heart and give everything we can to show we are better than the last Galway performance.
Is U20 on TV or Clubber by the way? Won't see live but would get up early to watch it back." Its on tg4 YouTube lad
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19533 - 12/05/2026 14:17:28
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Replying To StoreysTash: "ElGranSenor, you are right. My GF is from Tipp and its just so in-built and part of their mindset that finishing 2nd is not good enough. Years when they don't come out of Munster have plenty said within the county.
I feel in Wexford, we sort of accept losing and being average way too flippantly. Where is the anger over Saturday and the Kilkenny match? On and off the pitch. I'm not on the ground but we need to be seething over these results.
We will give the minors the benefit of the doubt because any young team can have a bad day. But if the same is repeated in the next round then it a disaster for confidence and morale in the county. Same for the u20's, we need them to at least go out and show fight and heart and give everything we can to show we are better than the last Galway performance.
Is U20 on TV or Clubber by the way? Won't see live but would get up early to watch it back." In fairness to the u20s they showed fight and heart in the 1st game against Galway too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19533 - 12/05/2026 14:23:38
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Have to agree with you. I feel for Rossi with the amount of players who have stepped away but its year 3 . We lack any kind of game plan and some of our basic skills are poor. I really hope there is a kick in us the last 2 games but its hard to see judging on what we have seen." He's out of his depth unfortunately and its year 3 of a 3 year gig. No one really wanted the job when he stepped in. He's blooded plenty of players hopefully they can be brought on in years to come but he's losing games on the line.
When you've rumours of lads stepping away like the Gorey contingent and more then its time to move on I think.
WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 496 - 12/05/2026 14:24:51
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Replying To WEXILE: "He's out of his depth unfortunately and its year 3 of a 3 year gig. No one really wanted the job when he stepped in. He's blooded plenty of players hopefully they can be brought on in years to come but he's losing games on the line.
When you've rumours of lads stepping away like the Gorey contingent and more then its time to move on I think." Our next appointment is crucial. We need a top class manager with a top class management team in place. To be fair Keith has blooded a lot of young lads and if they can push on along with with getting as many lads good enough to commit we can be hopeful for next year.
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1063 - 12/05/2026 14:41:31
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Replying To Viking66: "Sorry Storeystash Wexford GAA website changed its results/fixtures section and the previous ones seem to be lost. Its been an ongoing problem.
Another club who have really improved through hard work is Ballyhogue. The improvement in Enniscorthy CBS results has alot to do with the work that some of the clubs you mentioned along with Ballyhogue and Oulart are doing. Lads at Blackwater are working hard also.
Barntown are also working hard and reaching premier finals, helped by the expansion of their population.
Rapps are starting to get their act back together, Gorey are getting stronger at some of the younger grades too, along with Castletown who have big numbers also.
Rathnure and St Annes are also doing massive work with their underage set ups, and although they would be so called traditional clubs they are dealing with quite small numbers.
If I havent mentioned a particular club thats not meant to be disrespectful, I dont know what's going on at every club, but Ive seen lads from u8s upwards at the clubs mentioned above and the improvement in them over the last few years.
In general since the CB made a big push for clubs to extend their seasons, train twice a week, etc around 3 or 4 years ago Ive noticed a marked improvement between u6 and u14 at most clubs Ive come across. Hopefully that will start showing at u16 and minor in the coming years. And obviously then at intercounty level." Big win for Rathnure last night in the Roinn A Rackard League final - according to their Facebook page they haven't won it since 1994 .. There is also a very interesting article that was written a few years ago about the Rackard League.
Rackard League is specifically flagged as one of the big success stories from Wexford GAA according to the Kinnerk report.
If anyone has ever looked at the Rackard League cup it contains a full list of winners since the inception of the Rackard League in 1955. The clubs / years that stood out went on to subsequently do well in Senior championships once these teams reached adulthood e.g. Rathnure, Oulart, St Annes, Gorey just a few that stood out.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 308 - 12/05/2026 15:17:17
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Replying To Viking66: "Sorry Storeystash Wexford GAA website changed its results/fixtures section and the previous ones seem to be lost. Its been an ongoing problem.
Another club who have really improved through hard work is Ballyhogue. The improvement in Enniscorthy CBS results has alot to do with the work that some of the clubs you mentioned along with Ballyhogue and Oulart are doing. Lads at Blackwater are working hard also.
Barntown are also working hard and reaching premier finals, helped by the expansion of their population.
Rapps are starting to get their act back together, Gorey are getting stronger at some of the younger grades too, along with Castletown who have big numbers also.
Rathnure and St Annes are also doing massive work with their underage set ups, and although they would be so called traditional clubs they are dealing with quite small numbers.
If I havent mentioned a particular club thats not meant to be disrespectful, I dont know what's going on at every club, but Ive seen lads from u8s upwards at the clubs mentioned above and the improvement in them over the last few years.
In general since the CB made a big push for clubs to extend their seasons, train twice a week, etc around 3 or 4 years ago Ive noticed a marked improvement between u6 and u14 at most clubs Ive come across. Hopefully that will start showing at u16 and minor in the coming years. And obviously then at intercounty level." Two things
It takes time for these changes to bear fruit at adult level and people will have to be patient. Say if we make a change at U10 level, they'd only be playing adult eight years later at the earliest and even at that, they'd only be one group of players, it'd need to be a few good groups one after the other to really make a different at adult level so you might even be talking another five years on top of that (And another five years again if you allow that lads need time and experience in order to fully develop at adult level)
Was on a coaching course a few months ago with James Flynn and he was saying that Ballyhogue had a motto "Make the pitch in Bree the place to be". Suppose a strong community spirit goes a long way and the likes of Ballyhogue are using GAA as a way of building community spirit (In a world where community spirit isn't quite what it used to be). Buy-in and solidarity go a long way in sport and when every one is rowing in the same direction, then you have a chance of progressing
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@StoreysTash @Viking66 - as regards the three clubs mentioned by StoreysTash and the suggestion that they're "winning the Premier titles at underage levels" -
Oylegate-Glenbrien won the top grade of U14 hurling in 2023 (called Roinn 1, rather than Premier).
Last year, the same lads (obviously two years older) lost the final of the top grade of U16 hurling, to Monageer-Boolavogue.
Also last year, Rathgarogue-Cushinstown won the top grade of U16 football.
None of the three have a Premier Minor title in either code.
Basically - they have one top grade title each over the past three years, same as many other clubs have achieved too. Well done to all concerned. Certainly improvement for those clubs in those age grades. But not necessarily a sign of an emerging ongoing dominance or power shift.
As Viking mentions, other clubs are doing great work at the younger age groups. Ballyhogue are one such example at U12 and U14 level in recent years, making great strides in hurling in particular, when you consider they wouldn't traditionally have been seen as "a hurling club".
As for Rathnure - if they can keep up what they're doing with their current young lads of those ages, then everyone else will be in serious trouble in years to come!
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Replying To MyOhMi: "Big win for Rathnure last night in the Roinn A Rackard League final - according to their Facebook page they haven't won it since 1994 .. There is also a very interesting article that was written a few years ago about the Rackard League.
Rackard League is specifically flagged as one of the big success stories from Wexford GAA according to the Kinnerk report.
If anyone has ever looked at the Rackard League cup it contains a full list of winners since the inception of the Rackard League in 1955. The clubs / years that stood out went on to subsequently do well in Senior championships once these teams reached adulthood e.g. Rathnure, Oulart, St Annes, Gorey just a few that stood out." Interesting. Why was it on so early in the year?
Is there another competition between now and the championship which I presume starts in August?
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 388 - 12/05/2026 17:00:13
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Our next appointment is crucial. We need a top class manager with a top class management team in place. To be fair Keith has blooded a lot of young lads and if they can push on along with with getting as many lads good enough to commit we can be hopeful for next year." I agree, look its very hard to criticise Keith, he's been dealt so many blows. He has given everything for Wexford hurling. One of my favourite players ever, so stylish so confident. Michael O Muiraheartaigh called him an artist, he was all of that. Hopefully he has more contributions to make somewhere in Wexford but he's clearly inexperienced. Thats not his fault either.
We've experimented too much with managers. Daragh Egan was an experiment with an excellent team. A top manager might have gotten something out of us at that time. Then Keith.
Its a bit like Irelsnd in soccer, the last manager blooded virtually the whole team but they're only playing half decent for this manager. The same might happen for us.
I worry tho that in Wexford its just not important enough to enough people to make a difference because we've the same conversation every year
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Interesting. Why was it on so early in the year?
Is there another competition between now and the championship which I presume starts in August?" The Rackard League here is the Primary Schools competition. Basically what's known as Cumann na mBunscoil in other counties. Might seem early in the calendar year, but is actually late in the school year. :)
Rackard League Football starts early September and goes through to finals normally played around mid to end November. There's a break then before Rackard League hurling generally starts during March, play the group stages before the Easter Holidays, and the quarter-finals, semi-finals and finals during this term.
All those boys are playing either or both U12 and U14 with their clubs as well. Both age grades have already started and will run through to about September or maybe into October, by which time the younger lads will already be playing Rackard League football with their schools again, and the older lads will have moved to Secondary School and thus probably be playing with First Year teams there.
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Interesting. Why was it on so early in the year?
Is there another competition between now and the championship which I presume starts in August?" Rackard League is a primary schools competition Tadhg2020 . Been running in Wexford since the 50s and is a competition that as Viking said Paul Kinnerick had huge praise for in the recent strategic plan
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1063 - 12/05/2026 17:16:58
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