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Only great teams win back to back All Irelands

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Replying To slayer:  "I think some of the comments about the Munster championship are a bit harsh on Kerry. Between 04-10 Kerry reached 6 finals, winning 4 and the feedback was that those all Ireland titles were handy because it was Mayo and Cork in the final. In 05 and 08 it was said that Kerry couldn't beat Tyrone and after 2010 that they couldn't beat Northern teams. Yet in 2025 they beat 4 en route to Sam and the question is then about the Munster championship being poor.

Same with Dublin and their 6 in a row. Leinster was perceived as poor etc.

The truth is that both Kerry and Dublin have repeatedly found ways to win all Ireland titles with special teams. If we are to be really honest about the provincial championships, isn't Ulster the only one that genuinely has competitors who can all beat each other on a championship day? Some of the all Ireland titles won by the Ulster sides have been full of tremendous battles from the first game of the championship. From my earliest memories the Ulster football championship has been like that and once Down made the breakthrough in 1991 Ulster sides have become skilled at regularly winning all Ireland titles.

As for back to back titles I think that is a huge achievement in itself. To get a group of players back up to same level they'd been at is an impressive achievement in the modern game. Football and hurling are so competitive among the top 8 in each, it is difficult to see teams do back to back."
My previous post wasnt allowed, maybe this one will.

In fairness Slayer, the chief protagonist who's driving this has Dublin living rent free in his head as is doing everything he can to knock Dublin and their achievements. All posters are doing is responding in kind and pointing out its a two way street. The way intercounty works there's always going to be unfairness which can't be helped. It's not a professional game. It's the same at school level. You're always going to have schools that can barely field a team going up against mega schools, in all parts of the country, where there's huge competition for places, same thing.

However, our hero here can only see it from green and gold tinted glasses!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 31/08/2025 17:23:00    2634353

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At the end of the day there will be eight quarter finalists. If one has home league ground advantage, it is naturally an advantage. All Ireland results since 2011 back this up. The Leinster semi finals with home league ground advantage taken away for the first time since 2011 also back this up. "Some advantage" as the wise supporters of the 2013 All Ireland final hosts were very bullish in telling us.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9170 - 31/08/2025 20:17:27    2634395

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Replying To S1234:  "Well that's insulting enough it's because it was Mayo or Cork in the finals they were ' handy ' . You seem to have forgotten all the finals you lost before you won a couple .

Everyone knows Munster Championship is a walk through for Kerry every year. Simple as Kerry get easy routes to the business end ."
Why is it insulting? The facts are that Mayo always fill the togs in finals and Cork are a hurling county.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 313 - 02/09/2025 19:32:30    2634665

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Replying To brayballer:  "Why is it insulting? The facts are that Mayo always fill the togs in finals and Cork are a hurling county."
Cork won a football AI more recently than a hurling one.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17012 - 02/09/2025 21:22:47    2634677

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Replying To brayballer:  "Why is it insulting? The facts are that Mayo always fill the togs in finals and Cork are a hurling county."
Again that's not their fault beat galway donegal what plenty finals they beat others. Sour grapes from dubs ye mayo ij finals more than anyone and yet only mention mayo when cokes kerry

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 972 - 02/09/2025 21:53:48    2634682

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As I say lastly on this definitely a lot whingers focusing getting own county order mayo have as much resources as Dublin and kerry

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 972 - 02/09/2025 22:02:41    2634685

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Sorry last point kerry didn't have easy path this yet some trying frame. Bitter enough instead whinging focus on your counties failings

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 972 - 02/09/2025 22:12:13    2634687

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Sorry last point kerry didn't have easy path this yet some trying frame. Bitter enough instead whinging focus on your counties failings"
Eh! I think you need to take some of your own advice!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 381 - 03/09/2025 09:53:05    2634707

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