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Does Anyone See Past Limerick Winning The Hurling All Ireland?

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "You're not wrong there. The same amount of championship silverware as Galway in that period. Just not the big one for us sadly.

I am pleased that you joined our championship and managed to increase your standards to the level of Leinster counties to get Joe his medal though. Fair play."
It's not a 'Leinster standard' really since 1999. It was 'the KK std'. That was the standard required to avoid elimination v the cats.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4658 - 11/04/2026 21:36:54    2665822

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "It's not a 'Leinster standard' really since 1999. It was 'the KK std'. That was the standard required to avoid elimination v the cats."
Kilkenny are no less dominant now though, even though you're still picking really strange frames or reference.

6 in a row up to 04 broken by Wexford
7 in a row up to 12, broken by Galway
13 Dublin, 17 Galway
19 broken by Wexford
Now 6 in a row again even though this is a weak Kilkenny by their standards.

I'm going to move away from winding you up for a minute. It would be genuinely great if any one of ourselves or Dublin could stop it this yes.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4428 - 12/04/2026 07:45:53    2665840

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "It's not a 'Leinster standard' really since 1999. It was 'the KK std'. That was the standard required to avoid elimination v the cats."
If Kilkenny had of been playing in Munster in the noughties they wouldve won most of the Munster Championships in that decade. It was an exceptionally good team.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19182 - 12/04/2026 10:57:00    2665849

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Kilkenny are no less dominant now though, even though you're still picking really strange frames or reference.

6 in a row up to 04 broken by Wexford
7 in a row up to 12, broken by Galway
13 Dublin, 17 Galway
19 broken by Wexford
Now 6 in a row again even though this is a weak Kilkenny by their standards.

I'm going to move away from winding you up for a minute. It would be genuinely great if any one of ourselves or Dublin could stop it this yes."
That's ok, move away, you're the one picking the really strange frames of reference.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4658 - 12/04/2026 11:03:44    2665850

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Kilkenny are no less dominant now though, even though you're still picking really strange frames or reference.

6 in a row up to 04 broken by Wexford
7 in a row up to 12, broken by Galway
13 Dublin, 17 Galway
19 broken by Wexford
Now 6 in a row again even though this is a weak Kilkenny by their standards.

I'm going to move away from winding you up for a minute. It would be genuinely great if any one of ourselves or Dublin could stop it this yes."
They are obviously less dominant now, going from 11 allirelands 2000-2015, to none 2016-2025.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4658 - 12/04/2026 11:07:51    2665851

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Kilkenny are no less dominant now though, even though you're still picking really strange frames or reference.

6 in a row up to 04 broken by Wexford
7 in a row up to 12, broken by Galway
13 Dublin, 17 Galway
19 broken by Wexford
Now 6 in a row again even though this is a weak Kilkenny by their standards.

I'm going to move away from winding you up for a minute. It would be genuinely great if any one of ourselves or Dublin could stop it this yes."
No less dominant in Leinster, but still a KK standard, not a Leinster one. Galway have generally dealt with Wexford fairly handily, since they entered the Senior LHC in 2009. Have we lost to Wexford more than once in the LHC in those 17 seasons? A little more successful heh heh.......

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4658 - 12/04/2026 11:15:27    2665855

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "No less dominant in Leinster, but still a KK standard, not a Leinster one. Galway have generally dealt with Wexford fairly handily, since they entered the Senior LHC in 2009. Have we lost to Wexford more than once in the LHC in those 17 seasons? A little more successful heh heh......."
Thats just not the recent past. In that time you had one of your best ever teams, while we didnt. In the Round Robin era we have both failed to get out of Leinster twice, while head to head you have won 3, drawn 2 and lost one. Which isnt too bad for us considering the 2nd sentence of this post.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19182 - 12/04/2026 11:23:37    2665858

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Right can we go back to the present day lads. The historic stuff while at times very interesting at the moment it's gone completely out of hand.

I agree the title if the post is designed to stir. But look at the moment Limerick have shown a nice bit of consistency. However, while Gillane is always a top forward I do think if he's marked well we don't have other lads stepping up. O'Connor and O'brien have been way too quiet for my liking when they tempo has been raised. Also there are question marks about the fitness levels near the end of the older but one in a lifetime brigade. I definitely would like to see a midfield of o donovan and English and shove up lynch to the forwards. Yes same old same old but these boys have done 4 in a row, they aren't average players you can shove off to one side.

I honestly cannot name the 3 to come out of munster. Clare and waterford are a bit unknown but both don't fear anybody and can do serious damage to the other 3. Tired of Tipp with their rubbish no one is talking about us or giving us a chance rubbish. Yes donal og's comments were a bit harsh but they are over the top trying to create a false narrative.

I think leinster will be interesting this year and what would be fantastic is if there was a new winner there. Galway or Dublin are best placed to do that.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 382 - 12/04/2026 12:23:33    2665865

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "You're belittling u21 wins and u21 competition, and then go on to belittle players who didn't win u21s. Make up your mind like a good lad.

The correlation between u21 and senior success is quite high imo. Clare Limerick Tipp Cork have dominated the grade for 14 seasons, and have the beat senior sides our of it for the last 8 years. Galway's 4 senior wins 1980-2017 were preceded by u21 wins in '72, '78, '83, '86, 2007 and 2011.

Most of Wexford's senior intercounty success was post 2nd world war, but before the introduction of underage intercounty competition in the sixties, which perhaps is jaundicing your view there about the value of intercounty minor and u21 grades as underage talent pipelines for senior success."
I have reached and passed pension age age and though I remember nothing of it, was brought by Galway hurling fanatic parents to the Wexford Galway final in 1955.
Wexford were in no final between their victory in 1910 and 1951 whereas Galway who were in five finals during the twenties were in no final during the thirties or forties.
Galway were in three finals during the fifties wining none, Wexford in six between '51 and '62 winning three.
In the context of the Benedict/Viking debate … genuine Galway hurling supporters supported Wexford in all those finals bar '55, delighted that the big three were being challenged and enthused by the Rackards and that great Wexford team/s.
Though Galway got direct entry to the semi-finals and indeed straight to the 1958 final and won none of the three and taking into account the more serious impact on emigration on Galway hurling, they were not as far off as seems to be assumed 70 years later.
Galway lost to Cork in 1953 … 3-3 v 0-8 ie eight scores v six and the shameful dirty assault on Micky Burke by the greatest hurler of all time.
Galway lost the 1955 final by eight points to Wexford … much the same as the six points which Cork lost by to the same Wexford team in 1956. So we were not so bad and indeed won an Oireachtas final earlier … JoeSalmon and Jimmy Duggan were wonderful hurlers.
Re the importance of minors … I'm not sure how many of the Wexford other than John Quigley played on the Wexford teams which lost the finals of 1970, '76 and '77 to Cork but I'd venture there was a contribution- I do accept that a victory in the the U21 was more signicant as an indicator of a good future senior tea
Re Galway, the Coiste Iomana set a target in 1961 to win a minor all-Ireland by 1970 and the attention paid to under age players by PJ Callanan and Norman Farragher began to pay dividends … in 1966 Galway minors drew with Waterford and won the replay, beat Tipperary in the semi-final and were beaten by Cork 6-7 v 2-8 in the Munster final …many of the Cork minors went on to win senior all Irelands in 1970 and after… John Connolly, Frank Canning and Padraig Fahy were stars on that Galway team. Emigration was still a big problem in the West of Ireland and we lost Frank Canning and the Abbeyknockmoy Connollys to London and they came back to beat us in 1973. Galway went on to win the 1972 u21 but IMHO without the emphasis on the minors - we didn't win but got to the 1970 final - the success of the 1970/1980s would have been delayed.

Blackcoatsoffthefield (Galway) - Posts: 28 - 12/04/2026 12:26:20    2665866

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