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Replying To legendzxix:  "The second year of having 5 divisions of 7. Seems to be delivering what was intended. Most are getting on with the game. Minor gripes about the 1A and 1B double header scheduling."
I still think divisions of 8 better - cleaner with no bye weeks and its same number of rounds, and 2/7 down is tough.
Teams with a bye week before or after a break is awkward
We want more teams playing at top level, and the number of top teams is maybe 8-10 (top level is subjective I know)
Will Waterford or Wexford or even Offaly get much out of playing in Div 2 next year? for relegation next year will be Dublin will be favourites for relegation next year and will have a tough fight to stay up.
Same argument for Division 2 - Carlow and Down likely better off staying up, and an 8 team division gives teams like these more opportunities
the old 2 x 6 Div 1 went too much the other direction (there simply are not 12 top teams) but +1 for each division would be a small enough tweak but a significant improvement

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 224 - 24/03/2026 16:06:53    2662903

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For the second year in a row the pairing of 1A and 1B finals has been a bit controversial. Divisions 2, 3 and 4 give home advantage to the team that tops the table. Dublin supporters only getting 2000 tickets. Clare v Dublin in Ennis could cater for more. Possibly 1A and 1B should reward table toppers with home advantage as well. An extra incentive to play for.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9611 - 26/03/2026 14:30:02    2663340

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Replying To legendzxix:  "For the second year in a row the pairing of 1A and 1B finals has been a bit controversial. Divisions 2, 3 and 4 give home advantage to the team that tops the table. Dublin supporters only getting 2000 tickets. Clare v Dublin in Ennis could cater for more. Possibly 1A and 1B should reward table toppers with home advantage as well. An extra incentive to play for."
Why arent you proposing that the counties that top the table in each of the Football Leagues should have home advantage for the finals also?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 26/03/2026 16:06:29    2663361

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why arent you proposing that the counties that top the table in each of the Football Leagues should have home advantage for the finals also?"
I accept that the Croke Park finals are established in the national football league. The tiered hurling championships have their day out in Croke Park.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9611 - 26/03/2026 17:34:36    2663377

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I accept that the Croke Park finals are established in the national football league. The tiered hurling championships have their day out in Croke Park."
All national competition adult finals should be there. Not just all the Football ones.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 26/03/2026 22:51:22    2663396

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Replying To Viking66:  "All national competition adult finals should be there. Not just all the Football ones."
Not saying they shouldn't. Croke Park is dangled as a carrot for the lower tier hurling championships. It is like they don't want lower division league finals in Croke Park diluting that.
Scheduling wise - lower tier hurling league finals are this weekend. Football has Croke Park booked out. Next weekend is a rest weekend between lower tier division hurling finals and the start of the lower tier championships.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9611 - 27/03/2026 07:56:02    2663409

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Replying To Viking66:  "Its our own fault we are in 1b. We need to do better next year. No complaints."
It is. A couple of key things went against us in Croke Park that were out of our control but we are where we are having played all our fixtures.

Is it what's best for us or hurling in general though?

I'm comfortable enough with it based on where we are in our rebuild but prefer the previous version where you still got at least one game against a top team.

Or even the early 00s format where you had a couple of games to take risks and you could test yourself against the best teams without anybody killing themselves.

Ultimately nobody really takes the hurling league seriously because it's a warm up competition in bad weather that has no real baring on the main event.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4373 - 27/03/2026 22:42:14    2663547

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It is. A couple of key things went against us in Croke Park that were out of our control but we are where we are having played all our fixtures.

Is it what's best for us or hurling in general though?

I'm comfortable enough with it based on where we are in our rebuild but prefer the previous version where you still got at least one game against a top team.

Or even the early 00s format where you had a couple of games to take risks and you could test yourself against the best teams without anybody killing themselves.

Ultimately nobody really takes the hurling league seriously because it's a warm up competition in bad weather that has no real baring on the main event."
Ah no Doyler I think the current system is great. There's a bit of real jeopardy in the divisions now, especially with 2 up and 2 down. So we just missed out this year, its up to the lads to drive on now for the summer, regroup after the club championships, and try to go 1 better in next years League. Its the best League format there has ever been.
We dont deserve to play top teams unless we earn that right, and I'm all for that. We need to change the entitled mindset down here.
If the players wake up and realise they have to fight hard in every training session to win a start, and then collectively start fighting hard to win every game in the League, which in fairness I saw signs of in the lads this year for the 1st time in a long time, then that will hopefully make us a far more consistent team in Championship.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 28/03/2026 08:09:40    2663555

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Not saying they shouldn't. Croke Park is dangled as a carrot for the lower tier hurling championships. It is like they don't want lower division league finals in Croke Park diluting that.
Scheduling wise - lower tier hurling league finals are this weekend. Football has Croke Park booked out. Next weekend is a rest weekend between lower tier division hurling finals and the start of the lower tier championships."
The lower tier championships could be deferred a week. I dont understand the rush to get them finished so much earlier than the top tier, especially now that the preliminary quarter-finals are gone.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 28/03/2026 08:11:22    2663556

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Replying To Viking66:  "The lower tier championships could be deferred a week. I dont understand the rush to get them finished so much earlier than the top tier, especially now that the preliminary quarter-finals are gone."
Ring, Rackard and Meagher are usually a triple header on the weekend before provincial finals. They could move a week later but that would probably mean same day as Munster final. If everyone is ok with that - make it happen!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9611 - 28/03/2026 13:42:24    2663591

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Ring, Rackard and Meagher are usually a triple header on the weekend before provincial finals. They could move a week later but that would probably mean same day as Munster final. If everyone is ok with that - make it happen!"
I know that this is a little bit off topic, but I was surprised to see 1. Kerry in Leinster, and 2. that Kerry won so comfortably away from home against Carlow, who I consider to be a very decent hurling county, especially given that it has such a small pick: Leinster MHC Phase 1 - Round 2
Carlow 0-9 Kerry 2-15, Netwatch Training Centre, Fenagh FT

As such, could the Kerry senior team be allowed to play in Leinster? Given that Antrim and Galway are already in it and naturally you have the Leinster teams, if Kerry were to be added, we would have an All-Island Provincial Championship, not a Leinster Championship.

It's bizarre even to think about it!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2483 - 28/03/2026 16:16:26    2663611

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Ring, Rackard and Meagher are usually a triple header on the weekend before provincial finals. They could move a week later but that would probably mean same day as Munster final. If everyone is ok with that - make it happen!"
I think those finals are usually on a Saturday though and on tg4 so I dont see a problem with having it the same weekend especially now that the preliminary quarter finals are gone.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 163 - 28/03/2026 18:26:57    2663631

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I know that this is a little bit off topic, but I was surprised to see 1. Kerry in Leinster, and 2. that Kerry won so comfortably away from home against Carlow, who I consider to be a very decent hurling county, especially given that it has such a small pick: Leinster MHC Phase 1 - Round 2
Carlow 0-9 Kerry 2-15, Netwatch Training Centre, Fenagh FT

As such, could the Kerry senior team be allowed to play in Leinster? Given that Antrim and Galway are already in it and naturally you have the Leinster teams, if Kerry were to be added, we would have an All-Island Provincial Championship, not a Leinster Championship.

It's bizarre even to think about it!"
Im not sure about bizarre but the decision is already according to the kerry man. If they ever win the Joe they go into munster.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 163 - 28/03/2026 18:28:51    2663632

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Im not sure about bizarre but the decision is already according to the kerry man. If they ever win the Joe they go into munster."
Yes. Voted in at Congress.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 29/03/2026 08:16:51    2663678

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I know that this is a little bit off topic, but I was surprised to see 1. Kerry in Leinster, and 2. that Kerry won so comfortably away from home against Carlow, who I consider to be a very decent hurling county, especially given that it has such a small pick: Leinster MHC Phase 1 - Round 2
Carlow 0-9 Kerry 2-15, Netwatch Training Centre, Fenagh FT

As such, could the Kerry senior team be allowed to play in Leinster? Given that Antrim and Galway are already in it and naturally you have the Leinster teams, if Kerry were to be added, we would have an All-Island Provincial Championship, not a Leinster Championship.

It's bizarre even to think about it!"
Think there needs to be more Leinster teams in our Leinster Championship, not less.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 29/03/2026 08:18:15    2663679

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think there needs to be more Leinster teams in our Leinster Championship, not less."
There are more counties in Leinster than in any other province, twice as big as Connacht and Munster - how could it need more? Calling it the Leinster hurling championship is arrogant and misleading.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 312 - 29/03/2026 12:06:58    2663704

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "There are more counties in Leinster than in any other province, twice as big as Connacht and Munster - how could it need more? Calling it the Leinster hurling championship is arrogant and misleading."
The Leinster Senior Hurling Championship has been going for 138 years. You lads only blew in to it a wet day ago, and its pretty arrogant out of you therefore to have anything negative to say about it. What addition are you to it? You can't even say you have made it any much more competitive really, Kilkenny have still won it most of the years you were in it, same as they ever did. There dont even be many lads from up your way go support your own players in it.
If you dont like any aspect of it then go back to Connacht.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 29/03/2026 14:39:55    2663724

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Replying To Viking66:  "The Leinster Senior Hurling Championship has been going for 138 years. You lads only blew in to it a wet day ago, and its pretty arrogant out of you therefore to have anything negative to say about it. What addition are you to it? You can't even say you have made it any much more competitive really, Kilkenny have still won it most of the years you were in it, same as they ever did. There dont even be many lads from up your way go support your own players in it.
If you dont like any aspect of it then go back to Connacht."
Cromwell would be proud of you!

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 312 - 29/03/2026 21:09:21    2663829

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "Cromwell would be proud of you!"
He was another lad who breezed into Leinster with arrogance :-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/03/2026 07:44:25    2663891

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "Cromwell would be proud of you!"
He was more like you so ;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18997 - 30/03/2026 10:59:06    2663928

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