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I remember a championship game against them when Liam Dunne was over us and we only just beat them in the Park. Think it was level near enough going into injury time? Think it was 2013, we pushed Clare close the next day up in Thurles, took them to ET, and they went on to win the AI.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 14:29:16 2654795 Link 0 |
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The answer to that is no wexford don't learn. You'd think losing to kildare and a 14 man offaly wouldn't be enough to land a first senior gig either. Wexford shouldn't be as poor as we are.
Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 293 - 03/02/2026 14:36:52 2654796 Link 0 |
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You're right. My memory tells me Quigley and Redmond got second half goals that got us over the line. That Clare game was when Mac made his debut off the bench.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4193 - 03/02/2026 15:26:55 2654805 Link 0 |
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Sorry to rise to this post of yours Exiled, I know you are working hard for Wexford hurling at grassroots level, but your post reeks of entitlement and arrogance! First up we didnt lose badly to Laois, I was there, it was a close game. Second, and this is where the entitlement/arrogance bit comes in, why were you expecting us to beat them? Based on what form? I know we had beaten another 2nd tier county earlier in the competition up in Parnell Park, but those particular Laois lads had knocked both ourselves and Kilkenny out of the Leinster minor Championship when they were minors. Third, there are way more Laois men have won AI hurling medals than Dublin men. So why would we assume we have any more right to beat Laois than we do Dublin? Fourth, as regards the conveyor belt relative to yours , last year we beat Dublin at every underage grade from u14 to u20. Fifth, and getting back on track after the childish bit ( :-) ! ), and answering your point about management getting another year, last years u20s were probably our weakest group since 2021. And maybe longer than that. The main reason we lost to Laois that day was the team we had out were pretty young on account of this, and due to a now fixed anomaly in our own county structures, around three quarters of them had never even played a club adult game. We suffered badly in the physicality stakes as a result. Our team set up was actually pretty good, our execution just wasn't up to it on the day. Sixth, yes its a results based business, but if you keep chopping and changing managers in any sport how does that usually end up? Like for example how many titles have Utd won since Ferguson retired? I agree 100% that if on review you found that management hadn't got the best out of the players available to them, hadn't coached and prepared them properly, hadn't motivated them properly etc etc then you would have to look at replacing them, but I don't think that was the case last year. Seventh, and looking ahead to this year, Kilkenny really really expect great things from this year's u20s, Tipp will be very strong also, Clare too. Galway and Cork have huge underage numbers (as have Dublin of course). Obviously its not easy predicting what's going to happen with lads that age, but if I had to arrange the counties into tiers for this year Id go, in order, - Clare, Galway, Kilkenny, Tipp, Cork, Wexford, Limerick = Waterford, Dublin. Based mostly on the minor results from 2023 and 2024, championship and challenge games, and 2023 results weighted more . And just relating back to a previous post you put up about the state of Leinster hurling, have another look at that order. I certainly don't think the Munster counties will be far ahead of the Leinster ones and Galway. If our performances at u20 don't reflect the above order then certainly you'd want to be asking questions of our management then ok. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 15:42:18 2654810 Link 0 |
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From our perspective that was definitely one that got away and would still cross our minds from time to time. I think we had a very good goal chance in the 2nd half to put us well ahead at one stage but missed it and lost by 2 in the end. Looking forward to the game on Saturday. We've introduced a couple of new guys onto the panel so it will be a big test for them and also those who were on the fringes in recent years but now playing a more prominent role. Chris Nolan is back from suspension which is a big plus but may be short of match practice. Hopefully we can give your guys a rattle, staying in 1B would be huge to expose our younger lads to a higher standard of hurling and keep the older lads on board for another few years. ACarlowGael (Carlow) - Posts: 32 - 03/02/2026 16:02:56 2654818 Link 1 |
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Entitlement again. Most of those Offaly lads have AI minor and u20 medals. Agree though Id of probably set up the team differently after the sending off, but its easy for me to have thought that watching from the terrace, much harder when you are on the line. And Rossi wasn't the u20 manager when we lost to Kildare. Agree he was a very inexperienced selection, but from the rumours I heard when he eventually took on the job we didnt have too many applicants for it after the great year that was in 2023. In fact one rumour I heard was that we had no applicants. With retirements and lads travelling it was always going to be a difficult period, and the lads coming in over the last couple of years are going to take 3 or 4 years to get up to the required level. Maybe 2 years for the lads who have already been starting the last couple of years. So fair play to him with sticking it out. Must be hard listening to abuse without just bevelising a few lads with a hurl. That's why he got 3 years in the 1st place, give him and the players time to get up to standard. Lastly on all this fair play to Lee Chin also. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 16:03:51 2654819 Link 0 |
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I doubt we will beat you in the Nell. Id rather we beat you in the Park this year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 16:06:29 2654820 Link 0 |
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That Laois team did reach a Leinster Minor final three years prior Wexford also had Seán Rowley out injured, would guess Cillian Byrne was playing injured, didn't even have Luke Codd and Charlie Mooney in the squad, they filled the team with 18yos who hadn't even played adult hurling at that point, and they started back training quite late Wasn't a good year by any means and other counties had injuries too but that team wasn't put in a good position And before we go blaming managers, just like players, managers should be given some leeway and room to improve too, witch-hunts and scapegoating don't solve much ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 16:28:30 2654828 Link 1 |
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Just to point out that if you're referring to when Kildare beat us in the U20 Hurling Championship in 2021 - Rossiter wasn't the U20 hurling manager that year. Instead, he took over for 2022, after the manager for '21 wasn't kept on.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3338 - 03/02/2026 16:29:05 2654829 Link 0 |
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When did Keith lose to Kildare? You're also talking about an Offaly side who won the AI U20 the following year ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 16:35:18 2654830 Link 0 |
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Just on that conveyor belt point again Exiled, Wexford have beaten Dublin at minor in hurling in 4 out of the last 5 years. Even the team that got knocked out by Laois beat Dublin in 2022.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 17:01:26 2654833 Link 0 |
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It was the 93/94 League. The year after the trilogy of League finals against Cork. We lost to both Antrim and Down in that same season. 2 years later we were AI Champions. If ever a sequence of results summed us up it has to be that one. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 17:31:31 2654838 Link 0 |
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Yea i got that one wrong.
Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 293 - 03/02/2026 17:48:38 2654841 Link 0 |
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I know its bad form to answer your own post but I mean no disrespect to Antrim or Down by this post. Both had excellent teams in the mid 90s, and those 2 defeats were in division 1, not division 2. Division 1 that season was, alphabetically- Antrim Cork Down Galway Limerick Tipperary Waterford Wexford Galway topped the table, but Tipperary won the League title after the knockouts. Ourselves and Waterford were relegated. Great days for Ulster hurling! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 17:59:32 2654846 Link 0 |
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"I just have massive doubts over where Wexford are at to be blunt. Very little underage success over the last 10 years to talk about, very little of a conveyor belt coming through." Sorry to be like a dog with a bone over this remark, but apart from beating you in 4 out of the last 5 minor meetings, we have both reached and lost 2 out of the last 4 Leinster u20 finals, although we lost ours by a combined 3 points, while you lost yours by a combined 14 points. In fact we have reached 4 out of the last 8 u20/1 finals and lost them by a combined 6 points, none of them by more than 2 points. Less than the puck of a ball. And had our chances to win all 4 of them. Are you saying we did that with no good players? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18228 - 03/02/2026 18:28:48 2654850 Link 0 |
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The league game is in Croker, right?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 18:52:52 2654853 Link 0 |
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Yeah, was thinking along similar lines! Not saying we win an All-Ireland but Tipperary were as bad as they had been in a long time in 2022, were better in 2023 and 2024 but didn't look like All-Ireland winners in waiting I think 2026 will be rough but if we get through it, things should look better in 2027 and 2028. At least that's the hope ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 18:54:51 2654854 Link 0 |
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It was fair going for Down back then given that a large share of their population wouldn't have even contemplated playing GAA and then when out of those who did play GAA, very few would've played hurling, would've been pretty much confined to the Ards Peninsula
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 20:14:27 2654866 Link 0 |
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Just had a look back at it and it says that we came 8th and Down came 6th and that only us and Waterford were relegated in 1993/'94 But in 1994/'95, Down were in Division 2 with us How did that happen? ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 847 - 03/02/2026 20:18:43 2654867 Link 0 |
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As outside observer, I don't think Wexford are in a bad a situation as some seem to. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3976 - 03/02/2026 20:21:55 2654868 Link 1 |