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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I think the issue people have is that they don't see any real progression so they think we're going backwards whereas in reality, we're stagnating if anything, a case of same old, same old

Pretty much look at any year in Minor and as a general rule of thumb, KK and Galway will be top dogs in Leinster, us and Dublin are the next tier down, then Laois, Offaly, and Westmeath are the next tier down again (Kildare's and Carlow's results at that level are a further tier down)

I suppose that's where we need to get to but until we do, we'll just be hearing the same criticisms over and over again. And the problem is that if you think our problems are long-term, then there's no quick fix available and it'll take time for better results to come

And a lot of people won't have the patience for that!"
We're certainly not stagnating, there have been a good few very positive initiatives introduced or re-introduced since life went back to normal after covid. Namely A.S.H, Go-games, Rackard League, Martin Storey Cup, Mickey Laffen tournament, u13 model og, etc. But 2 things about that-
Firstly, your last sentence is very true .
And secondly, no other county is standing still either.
We should have a competitive minor team this year, they reached the Eugene Carey Cup SF last year, the premier u16 tournament, lost to Tipp who played Galway in the final, and beat Corks u16As in the 3rd 4th playoff. We have a good man over them too. (Cork, Tipp and Galway would have huge underage numbers compared to us, and Kilkenny didnt even qualify for the finals day).
Our u16s should be ok too, won the Arrabawn Shield after only losing their Arrabawn Cup QF to Galway by a point. So you could say they finished at least 5th.
Our u15s could be possibly be top 2 or 3 in the country this year once they get good coaching, not sure who is over them this year, at u14 last year they beat the Tony Forristal winners from Cork, it was a Munster only tournament last year, and we reached the Leinster Cup Semifinal which we lost to a very contentious goal in injury time to Kilkenny A after being 2 points up in injury time in Kilkenny. That A team beat their B team by a double digit score in the Final. We hammered Galway A in the 3rd/4th playoff.
And our u14s should be good too, not really based on much other than having watched alot of games since these lads were u9, and our clubs u13s participating in a 6 team u13 tournament in Killenaule last September, which featured club teams who won u13 div1 in Limerick and Tipp, another who finished 4th in Tipp, and the div2 winners from Cork and Kildare. We got to the Shield final which we only lost to the Cork side by 4 after being down by only 1 point coming into injury time when they got a goal. Just to put that into context we would be a towards the top of div4 side here, we lost the div4 final at u14 last year, and lost the u12 div4 placement final the year before. Im pretty sure all the other teams in the tournament will have a few players each on their respective u14 county squads this year.

Knowing all the above its actually pretty irritating for me to read the ##### posted by some lads on this forum about how we are behind Offaly and even Kildare at underage. And very demeaning to the lads we have working very hard coaching our underage players.
Just to give you one more stat on that, no Wexford underage team from u14 to minor has lost to an Offaly one in the last 2 years, maybe 3 but Im not going to say that as Im not 100% sure, and the average winning margin has been up near 20 points per game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 19/01/2026 21:27:27    2651979

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I think the issue people have is that they don't see any real progression so they think we're going backwards whereas in reality, we're stagnating if anything, a case of same old, same old

Pretty much look at any year in Minor and as a general rule of thumb, KK and Galway will be top dogs in Leinster, us and Dublin are the next tier down, then Laois, Offaly, and Westmeath are the next tier down again (Kildare's and Carlow's results at that level are a further tier down)

I suppose that's where we need to get to but until we do, we'll just be hearing the same criticisms over and over again. And the problem is that if you think our problems are long-term, then there's no quick fix available and it'll take time for better results to come

And a lot of people won't have the patience for that!"
We're certainly not stagnating, and there certainly is no quick fix, but there have been a good few very positive initiatives introduced or re-introduced since life went back to normal after covid. Namely A.S.H, Go-games, Rackard League, Martin Storey Cup, Mickey Laffen tournament, u13 model og, etc. But 2 things about that-
Firstly, your last sentence is very true .
And secondly, no other county is standing still either.
We should have a competitive minor team this year, they reached the Eugene Carey Cup SF last year, the premier u16 tournament, lost to Tipp who played Galway in the final, and beat Corks u16As in the 3rd 4th playoff. We have a good man over them too. (Cork, Tipp and Galway would have huge underage numbers compared to us, and Kilkenny didnt even qualify for the finals day).
Our u16s should be ok too, won the Arrabawn Shield after only losing their Arrabawn Cup QF to Galway by a point. So you could say they finished at least 5th.
Our u15s could be possibly be top 2 or 3 in the country this year once they get good coaching, not sure who is over them this year, at u14 last year they beat the Tony Forristal winners from Cork, it was a Munster only tournament last year, and we reached the Leinster Cup Semifinal which we lost to a very contentious goal in injury time to Kilkenny A after being 2 points up in injury time in Kilkenny. That A team beat their B team by a double digit score in the Final. We hammered Galway A in the 3rd/4th playoff.
And our u14s should be good too, not really based on much other than having watched alot of games since these lads were u9, and our clubs u13s participating in a 6 team u13 tournament in Killenaule last September, which featured club teams who won u13 div1 in Limerick and Tipp, another who finished 4th in Tipp, and the div2 winners from Cork and Kildare. We got to the Shield final which we only lost to the Cork side by 4 after being down by only 1 point coming into injury time when they got a goal. Just to put that into context we would be a towards the top of div4 side here, we lost the div4 final at u14 last year, and lost the u12 div4 placement final the year before. Im pretty sure all the other teams in the tournament will have a few players each on their respective u14 county squads this year.

Knowing all the above its actually pretty irritating for me to read the ##### posted by some lads on this forum about how we are behind Offaly and even Kildare at underage. And very demeaning to the lads we have working very hard coaching our underage players.
Just to give you one more stat on that, no Wexford underage team from u14 to minor has lost to an Offaly one in the last 2 years, maybe 3 but Im not going to say that as Im not 100% sure, and the average winning margin has been up near 20 points per game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 19/01/2026 21:28:21    2651980

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Replying To Viking66:  "We're certainly not stagnating, there have been a good few very positive initiatives introduced or re-introduced since life went back to normal after covid. Namely A.S.H, Go-games, Rackard League, Martin Storey Cup, Mickey Laffen tournament, u13 model og, etc. But 2 things about that-
Firstly, your last sentence is very true .
And secondly, no other county is standing still either.
We should have a competitive minor team this year, they reached the Eugene Carey Cup SF last year, the premier u16 tournament, lost to Tipp who played Galway in the final, and beat Corks u16As in the 3rd 4th playoff. We have a good man over them too. (Cork, Tipp and Galway would have huge underage numbers compared to us, and Kilkenny didnt even qualify for the finals day).
Our u16s should be ok too, won the Arrabawn Shield after only losing their Arrabawn Cup QF to Galway by a point. So you could say they finished at least 5th.
Our u15s could be possibly be top 2 or 3 in the country this year once they get good coaching, not sure who is over them this year, at u14 last year they beat the Tony Forristal winners from Cork, it was a Munster only tournament last year, and we reached the Leinster Cup Semifinal which we lost to a very contentious goal in injury time to Kilkenny A after being 2 points up in injury time in Kilkenny. That A team beat their B team by a double digit score in the Final. We hammered Galway A in the 3rd/4th playoff.
And our u14s should be good too, not really based on much other than having watched alot of games since these lads were u9, and our clubs u13s participating in a 6 team u13 tournament in Killenaule last September, which featured club teams who won u13 div1 in Limerick and Tipp, another who finished 4th in Tipp, and the div2 winners from Cork and Kildare. We got to the Shield final which we only lost to the Cork side by 4 after being down by only 1 point coming into injury time when they got a goal. Just to put that into context we would be a towards the top of div4 side here, we lost the div4 final at u14 last year, and lost the u12 div4 placement final the year before. Im pretty sure all the other teams in the tournament will have a few players each on their respective u14 county squads this year.

Knowing all the above its actually pretty irritating for me to read the ##### posted by some lads on this forum about how we are behind Offaly and even Kildare at underage. And very demeaning to the lads we have working very hard coaching our underage players.
Just to give you one more stat on that, no Wexford underage team from u14 to minor has lost to an Offaly one in the last 2 years, maybe 3 but Im not going to say that as Im not 100% sure, and the average winning margin has been up near 20 points per game."
I've been banging this drum for ages. We've performed really well at 14-16 for as long as I can remember but our conversation isn't great with a lot of those lads and I'm not sure why. The two groups in my lifetime that we managed to keep together reached under 21 all Ireland finals and won Leinster seniors and reached all Ireland semis at senior.

I also agree about people getting dramatic over laois, Carlow, Kildare and Offaly. We're producing competitive underage teams much more consistently than they are.

Ok Offaly actually managed to win an all Ireland but were lucky to beat us and that was one team. A few years before that we had an exceptional 21 group that were unlucky after being really competitive at that grade for a good few years and that still wasn't enough to produce a really top level senior team. I don't think some lads get how difficult it actually is to convert that. It's only really Kilkenny that do that consistently and even they aren't managing it right now.

Galway, Waterford and for a long time Limerick were producing top class underage teams that did nothing at senior.

Clare's best group ever looked set to take the mantle from Kilkenny and even they've only managed two senior all Irelands more than a decade apart.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4159 - 19/01/2026 23:15:37    2651994

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The Wexford People saying Chin is working his way back from a muscle injury, Simon Donohoe is still out, Jacko is getting knee surgery at the end of the month, Cian Molloy is working his way back to full health from a concussion he got during the club Championship, that the Martin's contingent, the Recks, and Conor Hearne are all back with the panel, and that the most experienced players we will have available on Saturday are Mark Fanning and Kevin Foley

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 790 - 20/01/2026 08:43:43    2652005

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "The Wexford People saying Chin is working his way back from a muscle injury, Simon Donohoe is still out, Jacko is getting knee surgery at the end of the month, Cian Molloy is working his way back to full health from a concussion he got during the club Championship, that the Martin's contingent, the Recks, and Conor Hearne are all back with the panel, and that the most experienced players we will have available on Saturday are Mark Fanning and Kevin Foley"
Saw that yesterday. No new news there. Great opportunity for some lads to step up. He name checked Carley and Foley, I really hope we get the confident Darragh Carley who makes things happen by playing good positive forward passes. He did ok up in Rathdowney when he came on in fairness to him, and against Kilkenny against their fringe players in the Park last year in Championship. Would be delighted to see him kick on this year, Conor Foley also.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 20/01/2026 10:10:12    2652021

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Replying To Viking66:  "Saw that yesterday. No new news there. Great opportunity for some lads to step up. He name checked Carley and Foley, I really hope we get the confident Darragh Carley who makes things happen by playing good positive forward passes. He did ok up in Rathdowney when he came on in fairness to him, and against Kilkenny against their fringe players in the Park last year in Championship. Would be delighted to see him kick on this year, Conor Foley also."
The panel was been culled from yesterday apparently - one assumes a league panel has to be named. Cork have theirs out anyway

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 281 - 20/01/2026 10:28:38    2652027

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The panel was been culled from yesterday apparently - one assumes a league panel has to be named. Cork have theirs out anyway"
We never have named ours, I doubt we will be starting now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 20/01/2026 11:16:03    2652033

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "The Wexford People saying Chin is working his way back from a muscle injury, Simon Donohoe is still out, Jacko is getting knee surgery at the end of the month, Cian Molloy is working his way back to full health from a concussion he got during the club Championship, that the Martin's contingent, the Recks, and Conor Hearne are all back with the panel, and that the most experienced players we will have available on Saturday are Mark Fanning and Kevin Foley"
Looking forward to Saturday now a chance for a lot of young lads to step up. Who from the martins was called into the panel . I'm presuming Darren Codd, Conor Firman, Darren Codd and Diarmuid O Leary are involved?

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 831 - 20/01/2026 11:27:24    2652039

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The panel was been culled from yesterday apparently - one assumes a league panel has to be named. Cork have theirs out anyway"
Any idea what our panel looks like now and how many are in training ?

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 831 - 20/01/2026 11:31:18    2652040

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Replying To Viking66:  "Having seen both 1st year teams I agree.
GCC Juniors and Seniors have plenty Wexford lads on them. Along with the lads named Tobin from Rathnure and Kehoe from Geraldine's on both Junior and Senior teams. Rossiter and Codd good players also.
Think the Juniors have had more than 10 different Wexford lads starting for them."
Robbie kehoe and Joey Tobin, Jack Cullen were on the junior team this year, kehoe and Tobin also started on the senior team last week and Cullen came on as a sub midway through the second half,
Tobin looked the best of the junior boys ,
Cullen and Tobin got there marching order's, Cullens was a bit harsh, I think Tobin just stood up for himself,

Wexfordabu25 (Wexford) - Posts: 6 - 20/01/2026 11:49:56    2652045

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Looking forward to Saturday now a chance for a lot of young lads to step up. Who from the martins was called into the panel . I'm presuming Darren Codd, Conor Firman, Darren Codd and Diarmuid O Leary are involved?"
Not sure but maybe both O'Learys. Not sure about Firman but he was on the good u21 team we had in 2018 and has become a very good adult hurler. He was in before, when Davy was manager.Dempsey is in. Jackos operation is a precautionary procedure.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 20/01/2026 13:13:57    2652069

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Anyone planning on going to the game in Down the bank holiday weekend?

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 20/01/2026 13:46:32    2652085

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not sure but maybe both O'Learys. Not sure about Firman but he was on the good u21 team we had in 2018 and has become a very good adult hurler. He was in before, when Davy was manager.Dempsey is in. Jackos operation is a precautionary procedure."
Eoin O leary done well corner back arite. Think Diarmuid really looks like he could be inter county potential. Conor Firman came on in the Leinster final in 2019 if memory serves me right. Still only only 27/28 I think. Philip Dempsey was solid for the Martins to be fair . Hopefully Jacko's rehab goes well and he wont be too far out. Disappointed to read today that Conor Mac is unavailable think he still has a lot to offer Wexford

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 831 - 20/01/2026 14:11:06    2652092

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Anyone planning on going to the game in Down the bank holiday weekend?"
Yes

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 20/01/2026 14:15:56    2652095

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Anyone planning on going to the game in Down the bank holiday weekend?"
Yes its a beautiful part of the country the Ards peninsular. Planning take the scenic route up get the ferry across to Portaferry. Burst back through Comber to Hillsborough pick up the A1 on the way back down.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18064 - 20/01/2026 14:17:45    2652096

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I've been banging this drum for ages. We've performed really well at 14-16 for as long as I can remember but our conversation isn't great with a lot of those lads and I'm not sure why. The two groups in my lifetime that we managed to keep together reached under 21 all Ireland finals and won Leinster seniors and reached all Ireland semis at senior.

I also agree about people getting dramatic over laois, Carlow, Kildare and Offaly. We're producing competitive underage teams much more consistently than they are.

Ok Offaly actually managed to win an all Ireland but were lucky to beat us and that was one team. A few years before that we had an exceptional 21 group that were unlucky after being really competitive at that grade for a good few years and that still wasn't enough to produce a really top level senior team. I don't think some lads get how difficult it actually is to convert that. It's only really Kilkenny that do that consistently and even they aren't managing it right now.

Galway, Waterford and for a long time Limerick were producing top class underage teams that did nothing at senior.

Clare's best group ever looked set to take the mantle from Kilkenny and even they've only managed two senior all Irelands more than a decade apart."
Yes but the point is that we need an All-Ireland win at underage, minor or u20, to really jump-start things. People who say "you don't need to win at underage" don't realise that you play the same players, year in year out, be that club or county. We had a great rivalry with one club we beat in a minor county final and for years we talked "we beat these before, they aren't as good as they think" and had the upper hand for a few years until some more young players came along.
Nobody is saying we have a right to be beating teams like Laois, Kildare and Offaly but the fact is if a Munster county came up against them they would say "who, Laois?"
I can't stand the "we won the shield so came 5th" mindset in Wexford. We need to stop settling for 2nd best. We need to stop talk ourselves down, we have an inferiority complex which means we don't believe in ourselves.
Am in Asia at the moment and met 2 friends from college. One is a teacher in a prominent hurling county starting his travels. He said to me that in his school, he has the 2nd class out hurling every day TWICE. Even those with no interest go out and bang a ball for 10 minutes. Those with big interest play during breaks as well. I would say this happens in no school in Wexford, even schools with hurlers and ex-hurlers as teachers. He did say he has a principal who is interested in hurling.
Its just culture, isn't it. We just do not have it.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1947 - 20/01/2026 15:14:45    2652115

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Eoin O leary done well corner back arite. Think Diarmuid really looks like he could be inter county potential. Conor Firman came on in the Leinster final in 2019 if memory serves me right. Still only only 27/28 I think. Philip Dempsey was solid for the Martins to be fair . Hopefully Jacko's rehab goes well and he wont be too far out. Disappointed to read today that Conor Mac is unavailable think he still has a lot to offer Wexford"
I haven't seen anything official about Mac yet but I agree. He's still one of the best players we have.

You're right about Conor Firman.

As far as I know Dempsey is in.

Not sure about the O'Learys.

Jacko is expected back the tail end of the league but won't be rushed.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4159 - 20/01/2026 15:25:38    2652123

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I haven't seen anything official about Mac yet but I agree. He's still one of the best players we have.

You're right about Conor Firman.

As far as I know Dempsey is in.

Not sure about the O'Learys.

Jacko is expected back the tail end of the league but won't be rushed."
Article from tomorrows Wexford people confirmed Mac is not available for the forseeable. The Recks and Conor Hearne are back training hopefully in contention for Saturday not sure how fit they are. Cian Molloy is slowly coming back to having suffered bad concussion in last years club championship

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 831 - 20/01/2026 16:37:58    2652146

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Any idea what our panel looks like now and how many are in training ?"
I think it's stupid they can't publish the panel anywhere.. I see. Today on Facebook under the Tipperary gaa page and cork gaa page there panel for the year.. I think we need to win Saturday or it wil be panic stations already.. have to win our home games as going away to Dublin and Clare will be very tough.. really want to know who is in the panel and who is available for weekend hopefully we get a bit of info in local newspapers tomorrow

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 330 - 20/01/2026 16:50:30    2652150

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Article from tomorrows Wexford people confirmed Mac is not available for the forseeable. The Recks and Conor Hearne are back training hopefully in contention for Saturday not sure how fit they are. Cian Molloy is slowly coming back to having suffered bad concussion in last years club championship"
What the story with mac, 29/30 why is he pulling out of the panel?

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1161 - 20/01/2026 18:17:16    2652174

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