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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I absolutely agree with your point but I would say Dublin have made good progress. They've beaten Munster opposition in championship for the first time in living memory and been in two Leinster finals (granted they haven't performed).

The codds are involved to be fair but only starting out at that level.

It's frustrating to see what Jack is capable of. On his day he can be a match winner. We just haven't seen enough of that in purple and gold.

I wouldn't be critical of Rory. His inconsistencies are mainly down to bad luck with injury. I would say he has delivered for Wexford mostly.

In any case, my point was that if the players we have can get that stuck in and bring that level of effort we'd be there or there abouts at provincial level."
Yes Doyler, Rory is a fantastic player and was indeed dogged with injury. Perhaps he shouldn't have played in some of the games he did. Playing through the pain barrier.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 576 - 09/12/2025 12:51:35    2647625

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Replying To Viking66:  "The 2 Codds were all already in this year."
They were viking but I think it's true to say that neither of them got much gametime.
Admittedly injury was the reason in David's case I believe it was.
Hopefully both will see a lot more action come the league and championship.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 576 - 09/12/2025 12:58:54    2647628

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "It's a fair point about lads in U20 being muscled off the ball this year, but I'd still counter that it's not a change brought about by those lads only having one year of adult hurling under their belts. Think about it. Minor ran at U17 between 2017 and 2022. That means that in 2020, '21, '22, '23 and '24, <u>all</u> our U20s would have had two years of adult hurling. But we didn't win Leinster in any of those years either, and nor is it the case that we weren't also a bit behind in the physical stakes in those years too. It goes deeper than a quick fix of "let them have another year at the adult grades first, and then hopefully we'll be okay"."</div>Your post actually reinforces the point. We went back to u18 at minor for the 2023 season, not the 2022 season. We were much more competitive physically at intercounty u20 in 2022 and 2023. We reached Leinster finals in both those years, and only lost narrowly. The 2024 team wouldve been the first where the up to the age lads only got 1 year at club adult, and any younger lads no adult club experience, in 2023. The u19s wouldve been u18 in 2023 and therefore not allowed to play adult. Our performances at intercounty u20 in 2024 and 2025 were noticeably worse than in 2022 and 2023."
Have only seen this now. Don't intend on dwell for too much longer, but have to point out you've misinterpreted part of what I've said, and you're wrong in other stuff you say yourself.

First, I said "Minor ran at U17 between 2017 and 2022". That's between 2017 and 2022 inclusive. So obviously I already know that it changed back to U18 for 2023. There's no need to "correct" me, because I'm not wrong in the first place.

Now where you're wrong -
The 2024 team wouldve been the first where the up to the age lads only got 1 year at club adult

Anybody up to the age for U20 in 2024 would have been playing U17 in 2021. They'd then have been playing adult in 2022 (when Minor was still U17), and again in 2023 (when they were now overage for Minor even though it had gone back to U18).

That's two years of adult hurling.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3312 - 09/12/2025 13:31:03    2647638

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Replying To Magpie2:  "They were viking but I think it's true to say that neither of them got much gametime.
Admittedly injury was the reason in David's case I believe it was.
Hopefully both will see a lot more action come the league and championship."
David got injured in Portugal, Darren didnt show enough in the League to get Championship starts. It was his first year in though, its totally unreasonable to expect him to jump up to Senior Intercounty championship starting level in his first year in. Only exceptional hurlers manage that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 09/12/2025 13:39:44    2647643

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Replying To Past hurler:  "A Leinster title is definitely there for the taking.

Lawlor is irreplaceable for Kilkenny and TJ Reid will start even though he is finished in my eyes.

If Wexford can get 26 hungry lads with a top class attitude to training and conditioning they will go close.

Some great young lads in that Rathnure and Martins squad and add them to what is there already."
We need a great lead coach in there ASAP.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 09/12/2025 13:40:34    2647644

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Replying To Past hurler:  "A Leinster title is definitely there for the taking.

Lawlor is irreplaceable for Kilkenny and TJ Reid will start even though he is finished in my eyes.

If Wexford can get 26 hungry lads with a top class attitude to training and conditioning they will go close.

Some great young lads in that Rathnure and Martins squad and add them to what is there already."
Couldnt agree more Leinster is there for the taking if we get our house in order

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 787 - 09/12/2025 14:58:00    2647660

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Surely we should be looking at what options are available for manager also?

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 283 - 13/12/2025 19:39:54    2648243

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "Surely we should be looking at what options are available for manager also?"
Keith has the job for another year. Support the man. See where we are come July.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 13/12/2025 23:13:51    2648281

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "Surely we should be looking at what options are available for manager also?"
Well we know Rossi is staying on but that may be a conversation for August or September

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4106 - 14/12/2025 07:42:03    2648289

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Replying To Viking66:  "Keith has the job for another year. Support the man. See where we are come July."
Hopefully we don't continue to slip even further from competing at the top in the summer.

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 283 - 14/12/2025 14:49:29    2648317

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "Hopefully we don't continue to slip even further from competing at the top in the summer."
For sure. A good lead coach is vitally important.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 14/12/2025 15:47:31    2648325

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Missing next year, Rory, mac, eoin ryan, liam ryan, Dunbar, Charlie, mickey Dwyer. The two recks are coming back in at some stage. We will struggle big time. Have to stay up in the liam mccarthy that the big goal next year. So many missing and if you add in the number of lads that won't commit on top of this, it is very worrying.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1159 - 15/12/2025 17:55:52    2648445

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Replying To hunting:  "Missing next year, Rory, mac, eoin ryan, liam ryan, Dunbar, Charlie, mickey Dwyer. The two recks are coming back in at some stage. We will struggle big time. Have to stay up in the liam mccarthy that the big goal next year. So many missing and if you add in the number of lads that won't commit on top of this, it is very worrying."
Rory O'Connor will Hopefully be back for Championship. Would be great to see Jippo back also. He hasn't said he's not committing or is retiring. Mac would be an asset too if fully fit and motivated. Again hes not publicly said hes retiring. The others are either replaceable by lads at least as good or didnt play too much last year anyway. None of the other lads who wont commit were there last year either. We do need other lads who were on the panel to get better, but theres no reason to assume they won't. Some of the other lads on the panel last year had their best club championship to date for instance.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 15/12/2025 19:42:43    2648451

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Replying To hunting:  "Missing next year, Rory, mac, eoin ryan, liam ryan, Dunbar, Charlie, mickey Dwyer. The two recks are coming back in at some stage. We will struggle big time. Have to stay up in the liam mccarthy that the big goal next year. So many missing and if you add in the number of lads that won't commit on top of this, it is very worrying."
Where are you hearing Rory is gone? I was told he'll be back for championship.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4106 - 15/12/2025 20:05:39    2648454

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Replying To Waltermitty2:  "Hopefully we don't continue to slip even further from competing at the top in the summer."
Was it a case Rossi was given the job with little to no senior county experience and the players. don't respect him?

Love or hate Davy Fitz, he was an All an Ireland winning manger when he took over Wexford, players tend to listen up,

Strange a lot of lads don't want to commit.

Could be similar with Lyng in Kilkenny, a lot of lads have turned down invited to join his panel or walked away.

Even Liam Cahill in Tipp got Waterford to an All Ireland final and won un20 All Ireland with Tipp before he landed the big one with Tipperary this year.

I have great time for Rossi, he bleeds Wexford hurling but lads taking a year out etc is not a good look.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 1019 - 15/12/2025 22:41:32    2648478

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Was it a case Rossi was given the job with little to no senior county experience and the players. don't respect him?

Love or hate Davy Fitz, he was an All an Ireland winning manger when he took over Wexford, players tend to listen up,

Strange a lot of lads don't want to commit.

Could be similar with Lyng in Kilkenny, a lot of lads have turned down invited to join his panel or walked away.

Even Liam Cahill in Tipp got Waterford to an All Ireland final and won un20 All Ireland with Tipp before he landed the big one with Tipperary this year.

I have great time for Rossi, he bleeds Wexford hurling but lads taking a year out etc is not a good look."
I am not sure it has anything to do with the manager but more to do with players being realistic about our chances next year and then balancing that with other things that they may want to achieve in their lives. If we were realistic contenders for an All Ireland would they take the year out - I doubt it but we are not. Did anyone take a year out under Cody or Kiely? to say its a bad look and imply that is a bad look on the manager is not fair, its more a reflection of where we stand in the pecking order.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2139 - 16/12/2025 09:57:27    2648502

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Was it a case Rossi was given the job with little to no senior county experience and the players. don't respect him?

Love or hate Davy Fitz, he was an All an Ireland winning manger when he took over Wexford, players tend to listen up,

Strange a lot of lads don't want to commit.

Could be similar with Lyng in Kilkenny, a lot of lads have turned down invited to join his panel or walked away.

Even Liam Cahill in Tipp got Waterford to an All Ireland final and won un20 All Ireland with Tipp before he landed the big one with Tipperary this year.

I have great time for Rossi, he bleeds Wexford hurling but lads taking a year out etc is not a good look."
Don't think anyone is taking a year out as such.
As regards Keith Rossiter everyone has to have a 1st job. As you said yourself when Liam Cahill took the Waterford job hed never managed a Senior side before. Keith was part of Davys management team here, and then was u20 manager for a couple of years. I think he has to get faster on the line ok, but then that was a big criticism lads in Clare had of Brian Lohan in his first couple of years, and that didnt end too badly in the end. He was given time to learn on the job.
As regards how good or bad our lads touch is, ability to win dirty ball is, support play and heads up hurling is, they would all be more the responsibility of the lead coach rather than the manager. That's why its vitally important to get the right man for that job.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 16/12/2025 10:39:09    2648509

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Was it a case Rossi was given the job with little to no senior county experience and the players. don't respect him?

Love or hate Davy Fitz, he was an All an Ireland winning manger when he took over Wexford, players tend to listen up,

Strange a lot of lads don't want to commit.

Could be similar with Lyng in Kilkenny, a lot of lads have turned down invited to join his panel or walked away.

Even Liam Cahill in Tipp got Waterford to an All Ireland final and won un20 All Ireland with Tipp before he landed the big one with Tipperary this year.

I have great time for Rossi, he bleeds Wexford hurling but lads taking a year out etc is not a good look."
Don't think anyone is taking a year out as such.
As regards Keith Rossiter everyone has to have a 1st job. As you said yourself when Liam Cahill took the Waterford job hed never managed a Senior side before. Keith was part of Davys management team here, and then was u20 manager for a couple of years. I think he has to get faster on the line ok, but then that was a big criticism lads in Clare had of Brian Lohan in his first couple of years, and that didnt end too badly in the end. He was given time to learn on the job.
As regards how good or bad our lads touch is, ability to win dirty ball is, support play and heads up hurling is, they would all be more the responsibility of the lead coach rather than the manager. That's why its vitally important to get the right man for that job.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17874 - 16/12/2025 11:01:31    2648517

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Replying To zinny:  "I am not sure it has anything to do with the manager but more to do with players being realistic about our chances next year and then balancing that with other things that they may want to achieve in their lives. If we were realistic contenders for an All Ireland would they take the year out - I doubt it but we are not. Did anyone take a year out under Cody or Kiely? to say its a bad look and imply that is a bad look on the manager is not fair, its more a reflection of where we stand in the pecking order."
The huge commitment for very little reward and lads berating players after games etc .
You finish inter County back with club . Finish club back with county or college or both . No realistic break lads voting with their feet . In the prime of their lives inter County is too restrictive on their lives .
Lads travelling going in their prime and wanting more from life than being flogged and controlled .
It's not just County how many clubs are losing players too for similar reasons .
What realistically is left in our country to hold onto these young men and women in their prime .
We are sell affected by the spiraling cost in Ireland and we are probably all well established in our lives .
I think if I was their age again I d be gone too .
They're some of the reasons what the solutions are i do not know .
It's not Rossi s fault there are a huge amount of outside factors in play here .
U will always have a percentage of players not entirely behind a manager and opt out for different reasons .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 513 - 16/12/2025 11:23:19    2648522

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Replying To zinny:  "I am not sure it has anything to do with the manager but more to do with players being realistic about our chances next year and then balancing that with other things that they may want to achieve in their lives. If we were realistic contenders for an All Ireland would they take the year out - I doubt it but we are not. Did anyone take a year out under Cody or Kiely? to say its a bad look and imply that is a bad look on the manager is not fair, its more a reflection of where we stand in the pecking order."
Yet if none of those players were taking a year out we'd have a very good chance of winning a Leinster which is a good achievement for any Wexford player in my lifetime anyway.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4106 - 16/12/2025 13:50:42    2648543

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