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Replying To Fionn:  "I really cant see Kilkenny appealing the result etc, They will take it on the chin and move on, but they must be sick knowing 2 quick points would have brought the game to ET and them with the extra man. They clearly had point scoring opportunities near the end but refused to take them and tried to go for a goal.

To be honest this sort of thing should Not be happening in this day and age. And in Croke Park of all places...
But anywhere in fact...!"
Nobody had said this but maybe they would have gone for goals anyway. When you know you're a couple of points down you're desperate for a goal.

richiepmurphy (Kilkenny) - Posts: 10 - 07/07/2025 12:35:44    2624100

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Would have been fun if kk scored goal..everyone thinking it's a draw while official score would have tipp losing by a point.maybe another reason to take scoring away from ref and just let them make decisions on field of play..
Think kk will accept result and move on but may ask for explanation of how things went wrong..pity it's come to this after a cracking semi.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2569 - 07/07/2025 12:40:00    2624104

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Replying To Fionn:  "I really cant see Kilkenny appealing the result etc, They will take it on the chin and move on, but they must be sick knowing 2 quick points would have brought the game to ET and them with the extra man. They clearly had point scoring opportunities near the end but refused to take them and tried to go for a goal.

To be honest this sort of thing should Not be happening in this day and age. And in Croke Park of all places...
But anywhere in fact...!"
Kilkenny have strong grounds for a replay, what would have happened had they scored that goal? would they have won by a point? another big payday instore for the GAA if the get a replay.
Farcical for this to happen in this day and age in all fairness, it's a complete joke.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3318 - 07/07/2025 12:52:21    2624107

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Replying To bystanderbill:  "Where does the referee file a score straight after the game? I never heard of that requirement. The referee sends in a report usually within 24hours (if there is a disciplinary issue) thats why the GAA are waiting for it before they can commence an inquiry.
If there is a case to answer here its with RTE and the stadium scoreboard. not the officials fault this time."
I wouldn't think it's a "requirement" but Brian Gavin, the ex ref, writing in the examiner today says Owens input the score as 4-21 on an official referees data base after the game and 50 minutes later it was changed to 4-20?

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 966 - 07/07/2025 12:57:07    2624108

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I have been calling for it for years now… Umpires in games of this importance should be trained county refs… not some buddy of the appointed official.. Time to wake up Jarlath and the rest of your GAA colleagues….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 07/07/2025 13:02:46    2624110

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Kilkenny have strong grounds for a replay, what would have happened had they scored that goal? would they have won by a point? another big payday instore for the GAA if the get a replay.
Farcical for this to happen in this day and age in all fairness, it's a complete joke."
It is a farce for sure. The same way Limerick were denied a 65 that could have leveled the 2019 semi final. But sure nothing will be done about it as always.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2418 - 07/07/2025 13:15:57    2624114

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I have been calling for it for years now… Umpires in games of this importance should be trained county refs… not some buddy of the appointed official.. Time to wake up Jarlath and the rest of your GAA colleagues…."
The umpire clearly waved the shot wide. While I agree with you on the umpires in general this wasn't on them, this was on whoever was in charge of the scoreboard. Also where was Hawkeye isn't that their job to make sure that every shot is scored correctly.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 556 - 07/07/2025 13:16:40    2624115

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Replying To richiepmurphy:  "Nobody had said this but maybe they would have gone for goals anyway. When you know you're a couple of points down you're desperate for a goal."
We will just never know. We do know that what happened is unacceptable. Everybody involved was appointed by the powers in Croke Park but for some reason those powers in Croke Park will come out blameless.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 556 - 07/07/2025 13:20:49    2624118

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I have been calling for it for years now… Umpires in games of this importance should be trained county refs… not some buddy of the appointed official.. Time to wake up Jarlath and the rest of your GAA colleagues…."
The umpire didn't do anything wrong. He waved it wide correctly. It was the scoreboard operator who messed up. Time for you to wake up and watch what actually happened.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2415 - 07/07/2025 13:26:29    2624120

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I have been calling for it for years now… Umpires in games of this importance should be trained county refs… not some buddy of the appointed official.. Time to wake up Jarlath and the rest of your GAA colleagues…."
Umpires waved it wide

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2247 - 07/07/2025 13:49:17    2624126

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Kilkenny have strong grounds for a replay, what would have happened had they scored that goal? would they have won by a point? another big payday instore for the GAA if the get a replay.
Farcical for this to happen in this day and age in all fairness, it's a complete joke."
No grounds at all. Deegan should have got a second yellow as they book the wrong man so where do you stop. There are always several if's and but's in games like this. Counties in this day and age have more stat people than subs and guaranteed they had the right score and would have got the word out.

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 591 - 07/07/2025 13:50:36    2624128

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Kilkenny have strong grounds for a replay, what would have happened had they scored that goal? would they have won by a point? another big payday instore for the GAA if the get a replay.
Farcical for this to happen in this day and age in all fairness, it's a complete joke."
No grounds at all for a replay. We can start talking about a Cork v Tipp Final now.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2513 - 07/07/2025 14:05:45    2624134

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Kilkenny have strong grounds for a replay, what would have happened had they scored that goal? would they have won by a point? another big payday instore for the GAA if the get a replay.
Farcical for this to happen in this day and age in all fairness, it's a complete joke."
They have no grounds for a replay. A bit like us after we lost to Dublin when the momentum of the game changed with a goal given that never crossed the line, Kilkenny had plenty of other reasons why they lost. Lawlor was took on a tour of the Park and they shipped 4 goals, they didn't create much by way of goal chances themselves, management were slow to change things up when they went a man up.
At the end of the day regardless of the scoreboard reading 3 points there's no guarantee they'd of gone for points at 2 down with so little time to go, and even less of a guarantee that they would've got them.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16507 - 07/07/2025 14:29:21    2624145

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I presume there are some here that remember the infamous game in '98 that was replayed because the referee blew the game up early?

After reading about yesterdays game (I was watching but didn't notice the mistake) I thought of 98. Is there a precedent set to justify a replay?

I don't think there is - the referees score is the final word on it - but just throwing it out there.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 369 - 07/07/2025 14:35:07    2624149

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Replying To daveboy:  "Isn't it mad to think both AI finalists lost championship matches this year by 15+ points with their first choice 15."
Correction lad - Tipp lost to Cork with 14 men.

CnocÁine (Limerick) - Posts: 10 - 07/07/2025 16:59:42    2624207

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Replying To Viking66:  "They have no grounds for a replay. A bit like us after we lost to Dublin when the momentum of the game changed with a goal given that never crossed the line, Kilkenny had plenty of other reasons why they lost. Lawlor was took on a tour of the Park and they shipped 4 goals, they didn't create much by way of goal chances themselves, management were slow to change things up when they went a man up.
At the end of the day regardless of the scoreboard reading 3 points there's no guarantee they'd of gone for points at 2 down with so little time to go, and even less of a guarantee that they would've got them."
If kk had scored a goal and the game went to extra time and Tipp won in extra time, what would happen when the gaa find out that KK won by 1 point in normal time

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 168 - 07/07/2025 17:52:12    2624226

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Replying To Cbar:  "I presume there are some here that remember the infamous game in '98 that was replayed because the referee blew the game up early?

After reading about yesterdays game (I was watching but didn't notice the mistake) I thought of 98. Is there a precedent set to justify a replay?

I don't think there is - the referees score is the final word on it - but just throwing it out there."
The rules at the time in 98 stated that a replay was required if match was stopped before time - there was no discretion or interpretation required. This is a different scenario, so no precedent.

Firceall (Offaly) - Posts: 41 - 07/07/2025 17:52:42    2624227

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "If kk had scored a goal and the game went to extra time and Tipp won in extra time, what would happen when the gaa find out that KK won by 1 point in normal time"
A big mess

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16507 - 07/07/2025 19:25:20    2624239

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Whatever happens from here this has shown the GAA up to be a joke, for it to happen in Croke Park with hawk eye and all the other eyes there so wide shut that they didn't cop on to the mistake is an absolute farce.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3318 - 07/07/2025 19:59:36    2624242

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Anyone I have been talking to dont want a replay,we were beaten on the field,thats it.

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 540 - 07/07/2025 20:49:19    2624246

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