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I think Kilkenny had only 1 wide in the second half, which was a strange ball lobbed in by Richie Reid, so I'm not even sure if it was a shot. Tipp had some very poor wides in the 3rd quarter, including the couple of missed frees, before they switched to Forde. I thought Tipp were the better team. Their use of the ball was better and they always looked a real threat for a goal when the ball went in. Kilkenny's use of the ball, particularly when they had the extra man was absolutely 'cat' at times. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2415 - 06/07/2025 23:29:16 2624026 Link 1 |
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I disagree regarding Tipp - the most common narrative coming in to today's game was that Tipp were the coming, improving team while Kilkenny had been around longer and would probably shade it Tipp won and deservedly so. A man down for the last 15 mins (counting 4 mins injury time), won by two, more wides, more scores from play, more bench impact I thought the Tipp wides at start of the second half handed the initiative to Kilkenny rather than the quality of their play Plus Tipp took a while to settle into the game - they spotted Kilkenny a five point lead in the first quarter before they started to click Tipp were the third place team in Munster, Kilkenny the Leinster champions and Tipp won narrowly but deservedly Look, Dublin beat Limerick and deservedly so. But that result was a huge shock and an outlier and Dublins hammering at the hands of Cork really showed what an outlier that result was I think the competitiveness of Munster and the closeness and quality of their games is giving a huge leg up to the Munster teams, driving them on to improve and hardening them for the AI series. Kilkenny are just not getting the same competition. Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 158 - 06/07/2025 23:35:25 2624027 Link 2 |
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Isn't it mad to think both AI finalists lost championship matches this year by 15+ points with their first choice 15. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 06/07/2025 23:59:28 2624030 Link 0 |
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I love the hurling but I prefer football especially under the new rules. Much more variety and many more counties have a chance of winning and competing at the latter stages. And this may sound daft but the constant high scoring gets boring….you even hear it in the crowd reaction, pints are hardly cheered anymore.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11681 - 07/07/2025 00:18:14 2624031 Link 3 |
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Cork werent supposed to have a hope against Limerick either after Li.erick demolished them in their round robin game.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2050 - 07/07/2025 03:42:14 2624036 Link 0 |
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Wexford were not superior to Tipp in the 2019 semi final. Tipp , like yesterday , won that day with 14 men but the sending off of John McGrath in 2019 happened earlier in the match than Darragh McCarthy's sending off yesterday. Tipp had three goals disallowed against Wexford in 2019 and deserved to win that game. Yesterday was about fine margins. When you think back on Kilkenny killing off teams with goals during the Cody era, you'd never have expected to see Kilkenny concede 4 goals and score none in an All Ireland semi final.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2511 - 07/07/2025 08:04:31 2624043 Link 0 |
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Dublin 'full value' for their win over Limerick doesn't mean anything imo, after shipping a 20pt semi final beating. 'Full value' of course, but that's relatively low value, based on the standard of Limerick's performance on the night, compared to Limerick's base standard 2018-2024. Anyone who assessed that Dublin had to be a force because they'd beaten the great Limerick side were reading it naively, or else were just stating this opinion to suit there own ends, or to just stir up a bit of interest. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4296 - 07/07/2025 08:41:34 2624046 Link 0 |
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I'm not sure I would agree totally with you on that. To me, there was little between them and I thought that Tipp slightly shaded for most of the game. Would any other player than TJ have put over those frees ? and that's what kept KK in it, again in my opinion. Also, I thought that KK got the rub of the green with the sending off and the incident where they also should have got a red card. So, in my humble opinion, the better team won on the day. I thought all year that Cork would lift McCarthy this year and I'm not sure that Tipp can upset that. There is no doubt that they will win very soon.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1723 - 07/07/2025 08:41:47 2624047 Link 0 |
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Superior what way that's no consolidation they bottled it big time but also score issue indirectly meant had go for goals
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 770 - 07/07/2025 08:59:05 2624051 Link 0 |
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I dident see all the match but if D McCarthy got two yellows how will he miss AI after his nonsense in PUC he should have known better anyway
clooney (Clare) - Posts: 996 - 07/07/2025 09:13:49 2624054 Link 1 |
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he needs to cop on a bit
clooney (Clare) - Posts: 996 - 07/07/2025 09:15:07 2624056 Link 0 |
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Not sure if he will miss the Final - His sending off earlier this year may mean he gets a one match suspension.. Re the Deegan incident it was straight infront of the linseman but I must admit that I had to watch it 3 or 4 times in slow mo before I could determin whose hurl hit him. on the plus side ref played and excellent advantage for the last goal and in general i thought he had a good game. Scoreboard issue was not the officials fault and I'm sure they would have been telling the players on the field what the score was. bystanderbill (Wexford) - Posts: 56 - 07/07/2025 09:54:24 2624058 Link 0 |
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So by your reckoning football under the new rules is boring because of the high scores that are being put up… Kerry scored 0-32 last week so that must have been very boring for you..,? You do know your Contradicting yourself baby what your saying…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4238 - 07/07/2025 10:04:15 2624059 Link 0 |
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Not sure if he will miss the Final - His sending off earlier this year may mean he gets a one match suspension.. Re the Deegan incident it was straight infront of the linseman but I must admit that I had to watch it 3 or 4 times in slow mo before I could determin whose hurl hit him. on the plus side ref played and excellent advantage for the last goal and in general i thought he had a good game. Scoreboard issue was not the officials fault and I'm sure they would have been telling the players on the field what the score was. bystanderbill (Wexford) - Posts: 56 - 07/07/2025 10:52:32 2624070 Link 0 |
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Tipp were the better more attack minded team, Kilkenny over reliant on TJ Reid frees for a good 2 thirds of the game. And if Wexford had been good enough in 2019 they would have won, losing that game 5 points up, against 14 players with 20 mins left was criminal. Got outscored by Tipp 0-12 to 1-2 in that closing period so not sure how Wexford were superior.
Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 251 - 07/07/2025 10:56:33 2624072 Link 0 |
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Re scoreboard ... the plot thickens ... the ref filed one score immediately after the game as he's required to (same as the error on the Croke Park scoreboard so 3 point win) but went back and changed it to a 2 point win two hours later!!! So what the ref knew and was informing players (if at all) is very debatable? Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1607 - 07/07/2025 11:05:06 2624078 Link 1 |
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I think we both know the answer to that OB.
sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2954 - 07/07/2025 11:35:46 2624081 Link 0 |
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Where does the referee file a score straight after the game? I never heard of that requirement. The referee sends in a report usually within 24hours (if there is a disciplinary issue) thats why the GAA are waiting for it before they can commence an inquiry. If there is a case to answer here its with RTE and the stadium scoreboard. not the officials fault this time. bystanderbill (Wexford) - Posts: 56 - 07/07/2025 11:53:05 2624085 Link 0 |
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I really cant see Kilkenny appealing the result etc, They will take it on the chin and move on, but they must be sick knowing 2 quick points would have brought the game to ET and them with the extra man. They clearly had point scoring opportunities near the end but refused to take them and tried to go for a goal. To be honest this sort of thing should Not be happening in this day and age. And in Croke Park of all places... But anywhere in fact...! Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4432 - 07/07/2025 12:19:14 2624091 Link 0 |
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McCarthy is free to play in all Ireland final, as he was sent off for 2 yellows and a red card in earlier game this year. Intriguing final in store with 2 goal scoring full forward lines.
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 573 - 07/07/2025 12:32:19 2624097 Link 0 |