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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "I wasnt and many others wern't. Would have been a lot more giving out if 10,000 couldnt get tickets to be the curtain raiser to Dublin/Kerry."
15,000+ at Minor Hurling Final.
12,000 of those wouldn't have got tickets if with Senior Final.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2507 - 01/07/2025 13:16:46    2622869

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "15,000+ at Minor Hurling Final.
12,000 of those wouldn't have got tickets if with Senior Final."
I know what you're saying but I still think the minor final should be a curtain raiser to the senior All Ireland in both codes…like it was for decades.. I think the reason for changing it was nothing to do with tickets or people not being able to attend was it not because they reckoned that players of that age profile might feel too much pressure on All Ireland Final day in Croke Park…? Surely a huge crowd in a small venue would effect them just as much if not more…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4233 - 01/07/2025 14:04:00    2622884

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Did I read somewhere that all Donegal's wides came from Murphy? High time he was dropped :)"
If there's a good day to miss frees it's when they were playing the likes of Monaghan or Caaaavan.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2368 - 01/07/2025 15:06:32    2622905

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Replying To Saynothing:  "If there's a good day to miss frees it's when they were playing the likes of Monaghan or Caaaavan."
That is sooooooooooo funny! I'm from Cavan so you made a joke about Cavan. Genius. Not the first time you've made that "joke" either. Better not make anymore playful jibes about Donegal for fear of irritating..... a Tyrone man?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12440 - 01/07/2025 16:07:54    2622928

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Ciaran Kirk writing in todays Irish Times states that "From 61 provincial and All Ireland championship games so far in 2025, only three would have ended in a different result if there was no two-point arc".
* Louth would have drawn against Kildare.
* Mayo would have beaten Donegal.
* Galway would have beaten Derry rather than a draw.
Interesting and VERY RELEVANT statistics. Personally I think that the two pointer makes the game more exciting, leaves more space inside and gives the team behind and their supporters a little more hope.

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 774 - 01/07/2025 17:25:51    2622950

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Ciaran Kirk writing in todays Irish Times states that "From 61 provincial and All Ireland championship games so far in 2025, only three would have ended in a different result if there was no two-point arc".
* Louth would have drawn against Kildare.
* Mayo would have beaten Donegal.
* Galway would have beaten Derry rather than a draw.
Interesting and VERY RELEVANT statistics. Personally I think that the two pointer makes the game more exciting, leaves more space inside and gives the team behind and their supporters a little more hope."
Lies, damn lies, and statistics.


The existence of the arc completely changes the approach and decision making of most sides.

For instance, a team that might have attempted 6 2-pointers amd kicked all 6 wide might well have been able to run in 3 or 4 one-pointers. The stats ignore that.

I wouldn't read too much into them.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5298 - 02/07/2025 14:47:47    2623169

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Ciaran Kirk writing in todays Irish Times states that "From 61 provincial and All Ireland championship games so far in 2025, only three would have ended in a different result if there was no two-point arc".
* Louth would have drawn against Kildare.
* Mayo would have beaten Donegal.
* Galway would have beaten Derry rather than a draw.
Interesting and VERY RELEVANT statistics. Personally I think that the two pointer makes the game more exciting, leaves more space inside and gives the team behind and their supporters a little more hope."
Pure nonsense…these statistics are in no way relevant... How would anyone know what way a game would go if there was no 2pt arc… there would be probably more goal chances and goals which might change the result of multiple games.. The sight of defenders patrolling the arc and the opposition hand passing over and back for several minutes does absolutely nothing for the game…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4233 - 02/07/2025 18:12:00    2623238

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For me Kerry are favourites followed by Donegal. I hope we can give Donegal a scare and keep it close but unfortunately feel they may have too much for us in the end. Very proud either way

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 203 - 03/07/2025 13:25:18    2623414

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Lies, damn lies, and statistics.


The existence of the arc completely changes the approach and decision making of most sides.

For instance, a team that might have attempted 6 2-pointers amd kicked all 6 wide might well have been able to run in 3 or 4 one-pointers. The stats ignore that.

I wouldn't read too much into them."
How is it lies? It's literally just the facts . We would have beaten Donegal , Cavan ( though we lost v Cavan because we didn't show up ) and Galway if no 2 pointer . If your looking to old rules we would have been in the quarter final and Donegal would be gone . Think Meath will do the business v Donegal handily enough to . 2 pointer rule should go it's just stupid. If keeping the 2 pointer make a goal 4 points .

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 273 - 04/07/2025 13:30:30    2623599

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Replying To letsgetgoing:  "Ciaran Kirk writing in todays Irish Times states that "From 61 provincial and All Ireland championship games so far in 2025, only three would have ended in a different result if there was no two-point arc".
* Louth would have drawn against Kildare.
* Mayo would have beaten Donegal.
* Galway would have beaten Derry rather than a draw.
Interesting and VERY RELEVANT statistics. Personally I think that the two pointer makes the game more exciting, leaves more space inside and gives the team behind and their supporters a little more hope."
The 2 pointer has been the big game changer and actually the rule leads to more goal scoring opportunities. Being in Croke Park last week for the 4 games, it was noticable that a lot of goal scoring opportunites were spurned. Cant put a finger on why that was.

ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 685 - 04/07/2025 13:37:45    2623601

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Replying To S1234:  "How is it lies? It's literally just the facts . We would have beaten Donegal , Cavan ( though we lost v Cavan because we didn't show up ) and Galway if no 2 pointer . If your looking to old rules we would have been in the quarter final and Donegal would be gone . Think Meath will do the business v Donegal handily enough to . 2 pointer rule should go it's just stupid. If keeping the 2 pointer make a goal 4 points ."
You can't take one rule in isolation like that and come to that conclusion. As other's have also pointed out the 2 pointer changes the way teams defend.
Its impossible to say how the close games would have gone under the old rules and everyone is well aware of the rules so its not an excuse.

JimB1991 (Donegal) - Posts: 102 - 04/07/2025 13:39:06    2623602

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Replying To S1234:  "How is it lies? It's literally just the facts . We would have beaten Donegal , Cavan ( though we lost v Cavan because we didn't show up ) and Galway if no 2 pointer . If your looking to old rules we would have been in the quarter final and Donegal would be gone . Think Meath will do the business v Donegal handily enough to . 2 pointer rule should go it's just stupid. If keeping the 2 pointer make a goal 4 points ."
If there were no 2 pointers the tactics would have been different. You can understand that? Quit with the if or should scenarios and living in the past. Cavan beat us well. Galway, Donegal closed out their games well. End of. I say us but I don't believe for one second that you're from Mayo with all the trolling you do here.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8152 - 04/07/2025 14:38:27    2623618

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I wasn't surprised that Monaghan got off to a flying start against Donegal. I wasn't surprised that Donegal responded either. Hard to argue about Donegal being installed as favourites. Meath and Tyrone then are the in form teams. The two group winners to get through the quarter finals.
I was confident Kerry would get through last weekend. There was a bit of concern after Armagh opened a bit of a gap early in the second half. The response was phenomenal, it has to be said.
Kerry still have a lot of injuries contend with. One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that. Sure, we'll hope for the best.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8982 - 04/07/2025 15:29:13    2623625

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "If there were no 2 pointers the tactics would have been different. You can understand that? Quit with the if or should scenarios and living in the past. Cavan beat us well. Galway, Donegal closed out their games well. End of. I say us but I don't believe for one second that you're from Mayo with all the trolling you do here."
Totally agree with your point's. The matches would be totally different and cannot be compared. I would also agree that the poster you refer to could be from anywhere.

Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 655 - 04/07/2025 15:31:04    2623626

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Replying To ORIELMAN85:  "The 2 pointer has been the big game changer and actually the rule leads to more goal scoring opportunities. Being in Croke Park last week for the 4 games, it was noticable that a lot of goal scoring opportunites were spurned. Cant put a finger on why that was."
How does it lead to more goal scoring opportunities ..?. The inside mark was supposed to increase goal scoring opportunities but this has failed spectacularly..,All the 2 pointers do is inflate the score line as any inter county player worth his salt should be able to score from that distance in any case.. They do keep teams in games regardless of how far they are behind but the negative about them is that teams like Armagh start going for Hail Mary shots in desperation when trying to work a goal scoring chance might be more beneficial….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4233 - 04/07/2025 16:39:01    2623637

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "How does it lead to more goal scoring opportunities ..?. The inside mark was supposed to increase goal scoring opportunities but this has failed spectacularly..,All the 2 pointers do is inflate the score line as any inter county player worth his salt should be able to score from that distance in any case.. They do keep teams in games regardless of how far they are behind but the negative about them is that teams like Armagh start going for Hail Mary shots in desperation when trying to work a goal scoring chance might be more beneficial…."
It frees up space because defences put bodies out to defend against two point kicks and there's more space left behind them for a runner to get down on goal or pass it to player for a goal opportunity. That's the theory anyways. Donegal zonal defence has a good handle on defending the arc and preventing goals scored.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8152 - 05/07/2025 06:09:10    2623696

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Why did the GAA appoint 2 Ulster referees for the All Ireland semifinals when 2 Ulster teams are involved…? I have no doubt both are capable referees but why would the GAA risk controversy like this when alternatives from outside either provinces were readily available for either matches…?

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4233 - 05/07/2025 08:29:53    2623702

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Its a strange one alright considering the small number of football fixtures remaining and there is no Connaught representative left in competition.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 732 - 05/07/2025 11:33:03    2623717

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Its a strange one alright considering the small number of football fixtures remaining and there is no Connaught representative left in competition."
Paddy Neilan has the final.

kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 92 - 05/07/2025 15:04:00    2623751

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I wasn't surprised that Monaghan got off to a flying start against Donegal. I wasn't surprised that Donegal responded either. Hard to argue about Donegal being installed as favourites. Meath and Tyrone then are the in form teams. The two group winners to get through the quarter finals.
I was confident Kerry would get through last weekend. There was a bit of concern after Armagh opened a bit of a gap early in the second half. The response was phenomenal, it has to be said.
Kerry still have a lot of injuries contend with. One swallow doesn't make a summer and all that. Sure, we'll hope for the best."
yerra yerra dry up Kerryman, you're fooling no one.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3312 - 05/07/2025 15:15:58    2623754

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