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Replying To btwex90:  "I'd say he will really enjoy playing"
That will be a difficult balance, but hurling will be part of life.

His sister decided to take a different direction at 13 which is also grand. A Loss to club and county but she still loves the sport and has done really well in her chosen path.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3701 - 05/06/2025 13:40:30    2615079

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "A club producing the best club hurlers will invariably produce the best county hurlers. Look at the Martins right now. Best club hurlers, best county hurlers.
Your club should be trying to make the best hurlers it can, whether they make it to hurling county or not is a petty stupid nonsensical argument."
Don't underestimate good primary schools in the area too.

Piercestown NS & Murrintown NS put in great work with both boys & girls for the St Martins club.

Great Community out that way.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 954 - 05/06/2025 13:47:04    2615084

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Comparing yourselves with Dublin's record is just projection and self-justification.
In Dublin, hurling is BY FAR the 2nd game and I am not even delusional enough to think otherwise. Yes its trendy in trendy parts which it wasn't when I was growing up but its still the minor game in Dublin albeit the football support has waned significantly they still get the lions share of the support and funding.
A better comparison exists with counties like Tipp, Limerick and Clare who both have both games but hurling is by far the number 1 game. All 3 have been up the Hogan steps several times since Wexford were."
Tipp are not a good comparison. They're big 3.

None of the ones you've mentioned are serious about football. There are two football teams in Munster.

To be honest I don't think there are many to compare to Wexford. We're a proper dual county in the sense that almost all of our players are involved in both codes. Some teams have basically the same 15 for both.

Galway and Cork are proper dual counties but not the same as us in that way.

I think Offaly or Carlow would be a more reasonable comparison.

Historically we'd be similar to mayo footballers in that we're bridesmaids more often than not and we aren't even that at the moment, come to think of it this year we aren't even invited to the afters.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3701 - 05/06/2025 13:49:54    2615085

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "21 years would include June 2004...... That's two Leinsters in 21 years out of 8 finals.

Still a bad record in fairness.

Not that Dublin are the bar or anything but only one Dublin born player has ever won an inter county all Ireland medal in spite of their 6 Liam McCarthys."
1 in 20 years then!

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 418 - 05/06/2025 14:22:01    2615102

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Haha she is not.

They're all Wexford players from 55-68 and 1 in 96.

The first of our club men ever to win an all Ireland medal in 1960 would be his great great uncle.

Another great great uncle of cloghbawn has 3 in 55,57 and 60

Another great uncle in 68, and finally a second cousin in 96 also cloghbawn."
Doylerwex if I can give you one bit of advice is do not under any circonstances put rhe pressure on your young lad to be an all star . Not all former hurlers or county stars children will share that passion
It comes back to if he wants it and not if you want it for him .
U can not tell me now thats what he wants.
My point is they need to enjoy it I never said it had to be fun first . Some like physical side of it some like the stick work some like the running etc etc sometimes as a coach u improvise to ensure they come back znd eventually the bug bites .
. Enjoyment is different for everyone . Nuture the talent whatever it is .
Personal experience I wanted nothing more from my chaps than to excel at hurling to the point in hindsight I may have done the opposite in their early years they did nt share my passion times it felt like I was forcing them to go . they all played but never got to the level I felt they could have . I was harder on them than other lads in the squads . Nothing extreme just constant encouragement possibly non stop and I could nt understand why they did nt share the passion .
Looking back i was wrong . They either want it or they don't.
I m only trying to give the benefit of my experience what you choose to do with it is your perogative
U can have an immeasurable talented chap will he enjoy it, its down to us and him . If they enjoy it they will do what's necessary to progress if they dont they won't. Simple .
So many other distractions out there now and then

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 368 - 05/06/2025 14:22:50    2615105

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "A club producing the best club hurlers will invariably produce the best county hurlers. Look at the Martins right now. Best club hurlers, best county hurlers.
Your club should be trying to make the best hurlers it can, whether they make it to hurling county or not is a petty stupid nonsensical argument."
It is.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16132 - 05/06/2025 14:31:55    2615108

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Doylerwex if I can give you one bit of advice is do not under any circonstances put rhe pressure on your young lad to be an all star . Not all former hurlers or county stars children will share that passion
It comes back to if he wants it and not if you want it for him .
U can not tell me now thats what he wants.
My point is they need to enjoy it I never said it had to be fun first . Some like physical side of it some like the stick work some like the running etc etc sometimes as a coach u improvise to ensure they come back znd eventually the bug bites .
. Enjoyment is different for everyone . Nuture the talent whatever it is .
Personal experience I wanted nothing more from my chaps than to excel at hurling to the point in hindsight I may have done the opposite in their early years they did nt share my passion times it felt like I was forcing them to go . they all played but never got to the level I felt they could have . I was harder on them than other lads in the squads . Nothing extreme just constant encouragement possibly non stop and I could nt understand why they did nt share the passion .
Looking back i was wrong . They either want it or they don't.
I m only trying to give the benefit of my experience what you choose to do with it is your perogative
U can have an immeasurable talented chap will he enjoy it, its down to us and him . If they enjoy it they will do what's necessary to progress if they dont they won't. Simple .
So many other distractions out there now and then"
I think bringing them to as many games as possible, club and county, helps. Becomes a big part of their lives then. I dont push my lads as such, when they were younger and starting out I'd have had to ask them to come out with me to kick or puck a ball. Now they ask me.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16132 - 05/06/2025 14:36:27    2615110

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Replying To btwex90:  "I'd say he will really enjoy playing"
I wish he was my Dad.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 812 - 05/06/2025 14:58:52    2615119

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Doylerwex if I can give you one bit of advice is do not under any circonstances put rhe pressure on your young lad to be an all star . Not all former hurlers or county stars children will share that passion
It comes back to if he wants it and not if you want it for him .
U can not tell me now thats what he wants.
My point is they need to enjoy it I never said it had to be fun first . Some like physical side of it some like the stick work some like the running etc etc sometimes as a coach u improvise to ensure they come back znd eventually the bug bites .
. Enjoyment is different for everyone . Nuture the talent whatever it is .
Personal experience I wanted nothing more from my chaps than to excel at hurling to the point in hindsight I may have done the opposite in their early years they did nt share my passion times it felt like I was forcing them to go . they all played but never got to the level I felt they could have . I was harder on them than other lads in the squads . Nothing extreme just constant encouragement possibly non stop and I could nt understand why they did nt share the passion .
Looking back i was wrong . They either want it or they don't.
I m only trying to give the benefit of my experience what you choose to do with it is your perogative
U can have an immeasurable talented chap will he enjoy it, its down to us and him . If they enjoy it they will do what's necessary to progress if they dont they won't. Simple .
So many other distractions out there now and then"
Thank you for that. We're taking the approach that hurling is just part of life. He loves it now but he's very small still. He's only 18 months but he can roll life which is a good start.

Our decision to have him was made in the park, his name was chosen in the uncovered stand during the Kilkenny match in 23. As you can imagine my wife is a very tolerant woman.

I am acutely aware of the implications these things can have on relationships. My own career ended far too soon which I know broke my late mother's heart. For better or for worse we're a hurling mad family.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3701 - 05/06/2025 15:05:29    2615122

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Replying To countyman2022:  "I wish he was my Dad."
Lads... Genuine question.... Do we not all want our kids to play the game, enjoy it and succeed?

Surely I'm not off the wall to want that....

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3701 - 05/06/2025 15:24:18    2615126

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Replying To Viking66:  "It is."
Is it though?

Would you start a race with any chance of winning it if you didn't know where the finish line was?

All I'm suggesting is that every young lad knows that if they want it and do the right things they can win an all Ireland with Wexford.

I'm certain Kilkenny and Limerick are doing that.

I bet every child in North end wants to play in the premier League too.

Take Liam Dunne as an example. Mrs Jacob was his teacher and every essay he wrote was about playing in croke park. I can't understand why people think my outlook is so off the wall.

If we're going to get rid of the loser's mindset that's become Wexford that's what I believe we need to do.

You won't go very far if your two legs are going towards different destinations.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3701 - 05/06/2025 15:45:02    2615135

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God forbid some people show a bit of optimism

You'd wonder why we haven't been a consistently top-class team since the late 1960s and then you remember how much negativity there is about the place

You can take issue with things that aren't being done correctly at the moment but I don't see why that has to give way to a wholly negative attitude

One reason why I like Armagh and Donegal under McGeeney and McGuinness is that they're flying high without having flown high at Minor/U20 level. McGeeney when he first got there got rid of a good few lads who would've considered amongst their better footballers and replaced them with so-called "inferior" footballers; look where they are now.

Think Armagh had something like 5 of last year's AI-winning team starting in their Ulster SF; McGeeney has done a great job at convincing lads they're good enough and squeezing every last drop out of the lemon. He believed they could win an AI when I'd say most of his own team didn't even believe him

Different sport but I'd say we had better teams than our 1996 team in terms of talent and ability, none better in terms of mentality though. Until some people change their negative mindsets, we're hurling with the brakes on

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 559 - 05/06/2025 16:02:46    2615141

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Is it though?

Would you start a race with any chance of winning it if you didn't know where the finish line was?

All I'm suggesting is that every young lad knows that if they want it and do the right things they can win an all Ireland with Wexford.

I'm certain Kilkenny and Limerick are doing that.

I bet every child in North end wants to play in the premier League too.

Take Liam Dunne as an example. Mrs Jacob was his teacher and every essay he wrote was about playing in croke park. I can't understand why people think my outlook is so off the wall.

If we're going to get rid of the loser's mindset that's become Wexford that's what I believe we need to do.

You won't go very far if your two legs are going towards different destinations."
Completely off the wall. How is he going to deal with the pressure of living up to the family tradition of winning All Irelands as a young chap if he is not good enough after all the work you have put into him from birth, including extra protein in his baby bottles?

btwex90 (Wexford) - Posts: 39 - 05/06/2025 16:08:54    2615144

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Is it though?

Would you start a race with any chance of winning it if you didn't know where the finish line was?

All I'm suggesting is that every young lad knows that if they want it and do the right things they can win an all Ireland with Wexford.

I'm certain Kilkenny and Limerick are doing that.

I bet every child in North end wants to play in the premier League too.

Take Liam Dunne as an example. Mrs Jacob was his teacher and every essay he wrote was about playing in croke park. I can't understand why people think my outlook is so off the wall.

If we're going to get rid of the loser's mindset that's become Wexford that's what I believe we need to do.

You won't go very far if your two legs are going towards different destinations."
You are maybe missing the lads point. Obviously you would hope as many young lads in the county want to bring Liam home as possible. Rather than win a Premier league title, or a RWC, or whatever. But from a clubs point of view, or a coaches point of view, you are trying initially to keep as many of the young lads playing to adult at all. Then secondly you are trying to ensure they will be the best possible versions of themselves as players, and then if you achieve that, they might achieve their dream of playing for the county.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16132 - 05/06/2025 16:20:07    2615147

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Haha she is not.

They're all Wexford players from 55-68 and 1 in 96.

The first of our club men ever to win an all Ireland medal in 1960 would be his great great uncle.

Another great great uncle of cloghbawn has 3 in 55,57 and 60

Another great uncle in 68, and finally a second cousin in 96 also cloghbawn."
That's some great heritage right there, hopefully he'll follow on.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2374 - 05/06/2025 16:52:29    2615156

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Lads... Genuine question.... Do we not all want our kids to play the game, enjoy it and succeed?

Surely I'm not off the wall to want that...."
I want my lads to play the games and enjoy them. And hopefully play til their 30s. I'm not sure the way you are going about it is the right way though. And if that's your clubs philosophy maybe that's why so many lads are dropping out?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16132 - 05/06/2025 17:43:04    2615176

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "God forbid some people show a bit of optimism

You'd wonder why we haven't been a consistently top-class team since the late 1960s and then you remember how much negativity there is about the place

You can take issue with things that aren't being done correctly at the moment but I don't see why that has to give way to a wholly negative attitude

One reason why I like Armagh and Donegal under McGeeney and McGuinness is that they're flying high without having flown high at Minor/U20 level. McGeeney when he first got there got rid of a good few lads who would've considered amongst their better footballers and replaced them with so-called "inferior" footballers; look where they are now.

Think Armagh had something like 5 of last year's AI-winning team starting in their Ulster SF; McGeeney has done a great job at convincing lads they're good enough and squeezing every last drop out of the lemon. He believed they could win an AI when I'd say most of his own team didn't even believe him

Different sport but I'd say we had better teams than our 1996 team in terms of talent and ability, none better in terms of mentality though. Until some people change their negative mindsets, we're hurling with the brakes on"
Mcgeeney set put with a definite plan to have 2 lads for every position as good as eachother, who knew exactly what was required, and were fit enough, strong enough, brave enough and skilful enough to execute it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16132 - 05/06/2025 17:45:25    2615177

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The research done into Clare players over a 30 year period who plays u14 Tony Forristal should tell us something. On average one per year made the leap but surely the most relevant to this conversation is that 25% of them NEVER players senior for their club. Making predictions about young lads is difficult and I think that a focus on player retention would yield results, if we retained more young lads playing with their clubs it is bound to have a positive impact. Now there is a chicken and egg, counties like Kerry and Kilkenny I suspect retain players at a far higher level than we do due to social cache and a more tangible belief that they can achieve success with the county team, without this increasing retention is tricky but we come back to enjoyment. Enjoyment is not necessarily the something as fun. The feeling of enjoyment comes when a challenge matches your ability is known as "flow" in positive psychology. This is connected to things like ensuring teams are correctly graded, big beatings will have a detrimental impact, so its not all on coaches shoulders.

https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/the-only-guarantee-around-player-development-is-that-there-are-no-guarantees-FBU43CBAIFAUTNBTVNZDY6G2UQ/

I do think Doyler is right in one regard, that coaches and clubs should have high expectations, the Pygmalion Effect is where high expectations from others can boost performance by increasing confidence, effort, and opportunities for growth. For example, a teacher who believes a student is gifted may provide more challenging material, leading to better outcomes likewise is probably true of coaches. High but realistic expectations can motivate players to train harder, focus on skill development, and persevere through setbacks. Coaches who believe in an players potential often provide more feedback, individualised training, and opportunities to compete, fostering growth.

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 106 - 05/06/2025 17:49:10    2615180

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The reality lads is Wexford are now a Joe McDonagh cup level county just barely hanging on to Senior status because of the brilliant Lee Chin and i take no pleasure in saying this. Whats killing hurling is the false positivity bullshit. Reality is we have been is one All Ireland senior final since 1977 and have won 1 senior All Ireland in 58 years we havent won the League since 1972 we havent won an u21 All Ireland since 1965 and havent won a Minor since 1968 and havent been in a Minor final since 1985 its just pathetic when u stand back and look at the facts. We need ruthless people over our teams and not people who want to be popular and want to stay in with the people that have power in the county. Also pick the best players and we would improve thats the most frustrating thing just because you father or granfather hurled with Wexford dosent mean you should be picked off the back of that. Get rid of the cronies and Wexford will improve there are plenty of good players not being given a proper chance.

Bryson (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 05/06/2025 18:45:17    2615187

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The reality lads is Wexford are now a Joe McDonagh cup level county just barely hanging on to Senior status because of the brilliant Lee Chin and i take no pleasure in saying this. Whats killing hurling is the false positivity bullshit. Reality is we have been is one All Ireland senior final since 1977 and have won 1 senior All Ireland in 58 years we havent won the League since 1972 we havent won an u21 All Ireland since 1965 and havent won a Minor since 1968 and havent been in a Minor final since 1985 its just pathetic when u stand back and look at the facts. We need ruthless people over our teams and not people who want to be popular and want to stay in with the people that have power in the county. Also pick the best players and we would improve thats the most frustrating thing just because you father or granfather hurled with Wexford dosent mean you should be picked off the back of that. Get rid of the cronies and Wexford will improve there are plenty of good players not being given a proper chance.

Bryson (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 05/06/2025 18:45:38    2615188

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