(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
|
The better team won on the day no doubt and Cork really won the game in the first 5 mins of the second half. It's hard on a young Offaly side but a great year considering they wouldn't have been tipped to get near this years final. ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 04/06/2023 22:23:14 2484070 Link 1 |
|
They are huge
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 156 - 04/06/2023 23:49:51 2484086 Link 0 |
|
Michael Mullins is Micky Mullins son. Don't think O Connell's are related and your correct in saying Ross OS is Tony O Sullivans nephew and Colin Walsh is Aidan's brother.
Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 05/06/2023 00:41:39 2484092 Link 0 |
|
Cork played a physical brand of hurling, but were also very fast and skillful. Cunningham stood out, as well as Mullins. Sunday game indicated the centre back Ben O' Connor is playing for Munster in rugby. He'll be a loss, as is big and athletic. Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 114 - 05/06/2023 02:33:42 2484098 Link 0 |
|
In fairness I do not think you could ever accuse some of their long serving backs of being soft. You could accuse them however of not being up to the standard to regularly prevail at Senior Level. Softness has very little to do with Corks lack of success at Senior Level; lack of consistency has much more to do with it. The sooner some of these young men are promoted the better for Cork Hurling. But remember achieving outright success at Senior may not be that easy, as they will always encounter stern opposition in Munster, as they did at U20 this year, not least from the resurgent Banner Lads
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4191 - 05/06/2023 07:14:42 2484105 Link 0 |
|
Different context and game but Offaly's style of just wanting to play hurling reminded me of the Senior football semi final of 1996. Tyrone learnt a lot from that day and I don't think that experience happened to a Tyrone team again in the years after or even up to this day. Offaly's style was a joy to watch yesterday and I can understand their managers post game interview, I think they'll learn a lot from that experience as they keep developing, but it's unfortunate you have to learn from these experiences in sport. When Cork played hurling especially in the second half they were an outstanding team and deserved their All Ireland. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 05/06/2023 07:29:40 2484106 Link 0 |
|
Ya but if they had 3 sent off would they have won. They went out a bullied, intimidated and hit offaly players. And then Offaly feel away the second half. Easy to luck a nice hurler then
skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 239 - 05/06/2023 10:09:41 2484125 Link 0 |
|
Shane Dowling summed it up when he said that the Cork u20s were closer to a senior team and the Offaly u20s team were closer to a minor team. 27 of the Offaly players are under age again next year and they will come again. That being said the foul by Kingston on Egan was a straight red card. It was a shocking tackle. I can't believe it wasn't even mentioned in the post match analysis on The Sunday Game.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5995 - 05/06/2023 15:57:32 2484175 Link 2 |
|
Was that tackle any worse than the head high elbow tackle on Darragh Fitzgibbon by Ronan Maher? Flanagan of Limerick is well versed in this tackle also. Physicality, intensity and cynicism have crept into the game, and is here to stay!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 114 - 06/06/2023 00:45:15 2484251 Link 0 |
|
Greengrass made the point that the Sunday Game didn't mention Kingston's "tackle", whereas Maher's and Flanagan's have both been highlighted. Regardless of what other players have done, Kingston's foul cannot be condoned, and to bracket it under physicality, intensity or cynicism is far too bland - it was downright nasty and dangerous and a clear red card offence. Taken in conjunction with some other less serious stuff that Cork indulged in in the first half, it certainly seemed that they set out to bully and intimidate a much younger and physically inferior Offaly team. This is not a new phenomenon in hurling but I have never seen anything comparable at underage level.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 512 - 06/06/2023 10:17:23 2484289 Link 3 |
|
Frist of all. toxicity234 (Offaly) - Posts: 31 - 06/06/2023 10:37:16 2484303 Link 0 |
|
Kingston should have walked, there were no other red card tackles, Cork physically intimidated lighter, younger Offaly team as they were fully entitled to do, every team utilises their advantages, otherwise don't play. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1179 - 06/06/2023 10:46:03 2484309 Link 1 |
|
I think some of the comments on this game have been unfair to Cork. Fair enough the tackle for the penalty was a red card and Screeney is one of the most naturally gifted players seen for thirty, maybe forty years. But what were Cork meant to do, let Offaly waltz in for scores? slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 06/06/2023 10:56:56 2484314 Link 1 |
|
In fairness, the Kingston sending off has been disputed by no one. It's a problem in the game and we'll more than likely see another incident like that before the year is out. The Ref made a bad call but Cork hurling was due a lucky refereeing break. It all evens out over the course of the season. As regards to Cork "bullying" Offaly they are a much physically bigger side of course they used that to their advantage. The Offaly players weren't backing down and were well able to give it back in spades.
Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 06/06/2023 11:03:02 2484321 Link 0 |
|
What three players should have been sent off. Kingston and who? The game isn't non contact of course your going to hit Offaly players. It was like an U-21 team vs a Minor team physically and they used that to their advantage..no big deal. Offaly didn't "fall away" in the second half, Cork dismantled them. A great team and the best U20 team in the country. Not much more to be said.
Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 06/06/2023 11:07:35 2484323 Link 0 |
|
In fairness you'll find virtually no Cork fan denying that wasn't a red card. We'll almost certainly see more tackles like that throughout the championship unfortunately and a much bigger discussion needs to be had. Cork were a due a lucky break from the ref this season and got it last Sunday. They even out over the course of a year. As regards to Cork bullying Offaly, they were the more physical and bigger team and used it to their advantage. Apart from the Kingston challenge there wasn't much else that was bad. Offaly didn't take a backward step and were well able to give it back to the Cork players Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 06/06/2023 11:36:43 2484339 Link 0 |
|
Excellent post.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5995 - 06/06/2023 11:43:22 2484345 Link 0 |
|
Looking back at it theres no doubt he wanted to leave something on Egan. There was def intent there and highly dangerous. Equally as bad as Shane Kingsons tackle in last years league. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/06/2023 11:44:00 2484346 Link 1 |
|
It evens out. There will come a time when Offaly will be benefited by a huge decision in their favor. The Maher red was a joke of a decision, the Mitchell red in the U20 Leinster was 100% the right call. Cork were brutally unlucky all year with decisions until last Sunday. I can guarantee you that the Cork players (and fans) couldn't care less about a "cynical approach" and rightly so. The only thing that will stay in their minds is that they are All Ireland champions. Offaly will have a good team next year and will be back again. That's sport. Frontier1000 (Cork) - Posts: 60 - 06/06/2023 11:44:44 2484348 Link 0 |
|
Slayer I think that is harsh. Sometimes its really difficult to stem the tide in hurling as we well know in Tipp against your county. It's a good point but I think sometimes teams can be very difficult to stop particualrly when Offaly are so young and physically smaller by some distance.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 06/06/2023 11:46:21 2484350 Link 0 |