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Replying To countyman2022: "Its not 50% Unionist however. Its Irish." If you're meant to be an example of an Irishman, then the stereotypes must be true.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 19/07/2023 18:13:58
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Replying To Jazzyjeff: "No question this Derry team will be there or thereabouts for the next decade or so. The age profile of the team plus minor All Ireland winners twice in the last four years means there has to be a Sam Maguire in this golden period. Maybe even more than one.
I have watched the game back now a few times. We should have won and maybe a little bit of inexperience and lack of depth cost us. For what it's worth I never got the coverage over Mayo bottlers etc. Maybe a case could be made for 2021 against Tyrone or 2012 against Donegal but ye came up against the best team ever in a number of finals and but for that should have had 2 or 3 yourselves." Don't get drawn into his *****. He'd be one of those who can't respect our National Anthem, roaring and shouting half way through it. Viking can fill him in how to behave having spent time around Coalisland.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 19/07/2023 18:30:52
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Replying To Ulsterman: "Why don't you just **** away off with yer *****" Sounds about right anyway.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 19/07/2023 18:45:56
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Replying To Ulsterman: "Why don't you just **** away off with yer *****" Ha ha ha!
He has really gotten under your skin Ulsterman! Lol.
Maybe you now know what's like for our southern brethren listening to your anti south ***** for all these years.
Here an idea. Try to be the bigger man, be comfortable in your own skin and let this sort of stuff wash over you.
Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 20/07/2023 09:00:22
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Replying To Wally: "Ha ha ha!
He has really gotten under your skin Ulsterman! Lol.
Maybe you now know what's like for our southern brethren listening to your anti south ***** for all these years.
Here an idea. Try to be the bigger man, be comfortable in your own skin and let this sort of stuff wash over you." Never was a person's monikor as apt as yours.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 20/07/2023 12:52:09
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myself my friend and his son are flying in to Shannon sun morning for the game
we were wondering is there any buses or coach's going to crowe Park
any advice would be appreciated
liamhayes (Limerick) - Posts: 1 - 20/07/2023 13:08:44
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Replying To Ulsterman: "Never was a person's monikor as apt as yours." Original
Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 912 - 20/07/2023 13:13:03
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Replying To liamhayes: "myself my friend and his son are flying in to Shannon sun morning for the game
we were wondering is there any buses or coach's going to crowe Park
any advice would be appreciated" Hi Liam. Yes there are buses from the airport to drumcondra a few hundred metres from croke park. There are air coaches and ordinary buses. If you ask at airport someone will show you. However it's only a short taxi drive too so maybe that's an option. Enjoy the game and best of luck.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 20/07/2023 13:40:10
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Hi Liam. Yes there are buses from the airport to drumcondra a few hundred metres from croke park. There are air coaches and ordinary buses. If you ask at airport someone will show you. However it's only a short taxi drive too so maybe that's an option. Enjoy the game and best of luck." Not really a short taxi ride from SHANNON Airport to Croke Park.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 20/07/2023 14:00:29
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Replying To letsgetgoing: "Not really a short taxi ride from SHANNON Airport to Croke Park." Oh ffs im only re reading it now. Thanks letsgetgoing. Sorry lads I thought you were flying into Dublin. My mistake!
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 20/07/2023 17:53:27
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Replying To Wally: "Original" He sounds like an awful bitter Antrim man. Would he be happier if moved South?
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 21/07/2023 10:04:47
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Replying To unclegerry: "Derry blew that semi in fairness.. We would have got slaughtered in the media if it was us who collapsed in such fashion in 2nd half and rightly so.. Brolly would have wrote another stinker of a piece!.. "bottlers" "celebtrity losers".. al that jazz!
Back to the game itself. The ref wasnt great but it was the wides and goal chances that what cost Derry the game.. Even 1 or 2 of those go over to stretch it out could have been enough.. Derry will be back though
As for the final, I think Kerry will do it.. Clifford will be the difference as is the case in every Kerry game in the knockout stages.. They are lucky to have him.. What a player though" Aye it's a young Derry team, and had they taken their chances I think there would've been too much for Kerry to do in those closing stages. The level in Ulster has dropped a bit - we were poor this year (Tyrone) and whilst Monaghan made the semi-final they definitely rode their luck. Derry could dominate Ulster for the next 4 or 5 years.
Errigal1978 (Tyrone) - Posts: 4 - 26/07/2023 00:33:05
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Replying To Errigal1978: "Aye it's a young Derry team, and had they taken their chances I think there would've been too much for Kerry to do in those closing stages. The level in Ulster has dropped a bit - we were poor this year (Tyrone) and whilst Monaghan made the semi-final they definitely rode their luck. Derry could dominate Ulster for the next 4 or 5 years." Last year to win Ulster and get to an All Ireland semi-final was dream stuff. This year winning Ulster and getting to an All Ireland semi-final was an excellent achievement. We will look to retain the Anglo-Celt next year of course but we will be 100% focused on winning the All Ireland. There is enough in this team to do it and the semi-final against Kerry which we should have won will give enormous confidence to us all.
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RIP Art McRory.
I think I met the man once, but I'm not sure. I know that he wasn't involved in managing Ulster at the time, but I think I spoke to him as a spectator at this particularly great game.
And it was a game, semi-final I think, between Munster and Ulster played at the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick. For me, it was one of the most fascinating Gaelic football games that I've ever seen live. I think Ulster won it something like 1-17 to 1-15, and most of the scores came from play. I'd only arrived in Ireland the night before, and had a few heavy bevvies in 'the local' as well, so perhaps my heavy head the following day has clouded my memories of this occasion.
However, I do remember that Ulster had a mighty team: Peter McGinnity, Colm McAlarney, Liam Austin, McCarron, McCarville, and Nudie Hughes from Monaghan, a few more, AND the mighty Frank McGuigan from Tyrone.
I remember the battle between Johnno Keeffe and Frank, as if it were yesterday, but can't remember whether the game was actually in late '83 or early '84. I do remember that McGuigan kicked 4 points from play off O'Keeffe, and that day it was man for man, and that each of the 4 were rather mercurial. For one point in particular, because the GG was quite empty the same day, you could hear the frap off O'Keeffe's fingers as McGuigan angled it over the bar; millimeters awy from a great block-down. There was no sledging, no pulling or dragging between these two giants of the game, just pure raw physicality and football.
It is only years after that I realize how privileged I was to see the great Frank McGuigan and the equally great John O'Keeffe go at it mano-a-mano!
If anyone else on here, perhaps OTM, remembers that game, please let me know that it happened, and that I'm not hallucinating.
RIP, Art McRory.
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Replying To unclegerry: "Derry blew that semi in fairness.. We would have got slaughtered in the media if it was us who collapsed in such fashion in 2nd half and rightly so.. Brolly would have wrote another stinker of a piece!.. "bottlers" "celebtrity losers".. al that jazz!
Back to the game itself. The ref wasnt great but it was the wides and goal chances that what cost Derry the game.. Even 1 or 2 of those go over to stretch it out could have been enough.. Derry will be back though
As for the final, I think Kerry will do it.. Clifford will be the difference as is the case in every Kerry game in the knockout stages.. They are lucky to have him.. What a player though" Mayo and Derry hardly like for like though are that? Derry were last in a final in 1993 and actually won it. Haven't been anywhere since until the last two years and could win one in the coming years.
As for ourselves we have been in roughly ONE THIRD of all football finals since 1989 and failed in every single one. It's a horrendous record. Until we win it we are going to be mocked and laughed at. You just got to accept that.
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Replying To foreveryoung: "RIP Art McRory.
I think I met the man once, but I'm not sure. I know that he wasn't involved in managing Ulster at the time, but I think I spoke to him as a spectator at this particularly great game.
And it was a game, semi-final I think, between Munster and Ulster played at the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick. For me, it was one of the most fascinating Gaelic football games that I've ever seen live. I think Ulster won it something like 1-17 to 1-15, and most of the scores came from play. I'd only arrived in Ireland the night before, and had a few heavy bevvies in 'the local' as well, so perhaps my heavy head the following day has clouded my memories of this occasion.
However, I do remember that Ulster had a mighty team: Peter McGinnity, Colm McAlarney, Liam Austin, McCarron, McCarville, and Nudie Hughes from Monaghan, a few more, AND the mighty Frank McGuigan from Tyrone.
I remember the battle between Johnno Keeffe and Frank, as if it were yesterday, but can't remember whether the game was actually in late '83 or early '84. I do remember that McGuigan kicked 4 points from play off O'Keeffe, and that day it was man for man, and that each of the 4 were rather mercurial. For one point in particular, because the GG was quite empty the same day, you could hear the frap off O'Keeffe's fingers as McGuigan angled it over the bar; millimeters awy from a great block-down. There was no sledging, no pulling or dragging between these two giants of the game, just pure raw physicality and football.
It is only years after that I realize how privileged I was to see the great Frank McGuigan and the equally great John O'Keeffe go at it mano-a-mano!
If anyone else on here, perhaps OTM, remembers that game, please let me know that it happened, and that I'm not hallucinating.
RIP, Art McRory." Yes Art McGrory was a great gaa person and and always came across as a gentleman. He was Tyrone manager in 86 and 95. He refused to complain about refs decisions and just took defeat in his stride. Im fairly certain he was married to a sister of Kerry s Mikey Sheehy. A very popular man and hope he rests in peace.
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Today was a great day. Pity the All Ireland mens final was not on. Anyway glad for the Ladies and Tg4, they got a great afternoon. Ar bhfeabhas.
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Yes Art McGrory was a great gaa person and and always came across as a gentleman. He was Tyrone manager in 86 and 95. He refused to complain about refs decisions and just took defeat in his stride. Im fairly certain he was married to a sister of Kerry s Mikey Sheehy. A very popular man and hope he rests in peace." Indeed CiarraiMick, supporters have complained more about refs decisions in 1995 including myself. With a bit of luck and he could have 2 All Irelands. The 86 one was especially cruel. The late Paudi says in his book that Kerry were gone and the penalty going over the bar was the lift they needed. A big gentleman and that included looking lads when he was principal.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 13/08/2023 22:18:51
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Replying To Saynothing: "Indeed CiarraiMick, supporters have complained more about refs decisions in 1995 including myself. With a bit of luck and he could have 2 All Irelands. The 86 one was especially cruel. The late Paudi says in his book that Kerry were gone and the penalty going over the bar was the lift they needed. A big gentleman and that included looking lads when he was principal." True Saynothing and to be perfectly honest in 86 final also we got away with a foul on Plunkett Donaghy that led to Mikey Sheehy s goal. Ger Power pushed Donaghy in the back knocking him over and delivered q great ball into Sheehy who scored a great goal. That goal broke Tyrone but no complaints came afterwards. Yes Art McGrory was indeed a gentleman as well as a great Gaa man. Total respect!
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3676 - 13/08/2023 23:05:10
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Replying To CiarraiMick: "Yes Art McGrory was a great gaa person and and always came across as a gentleman. He was Tyrone manager in 86 and 95. He refused to complain about refs decisions and just took defeat in his stride. Im fairly certain he was married to a sister of Kerry s Mikey Sheehy. A very popular man and hope he rests in peace." Mick, that's a totally new one for me but never did I hear that there was a connection with McRory.
But I don't doubt it, as you're usually spot on with your info, Mick.
Thanks.
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