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Replying To The_analyser: "Division 3 they were in (gained promotion to Division 2) was Quarter finals back then which they won and eventually lost the semi final to Derry. As already said Armagh 2002 the last team to win Sam having played their league football in Div 2. Since then Down (2010) Donegal (2014) Mayo (2021) Galway (2022) reached and lost All Ireland finals from playing Div 2 league football in the spring." I wasn't aware division 2 football teams had such a strong record in reaching football finals. St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 121 - 17/07/2023 19:55:43 2495242 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "You sound like most of those in Britain who voted for Brexit. "It's all the foreigners fault.....so it is". Swap foreigners for Northerners and It's exactly the same. Unfortunately your view is far more common than many will admit. The fact that your totally nonsensical, sweeping statement even made it on to the boards speaks volumes. If that was said about anyone else it would be called out as bigoted racism. I bet this reply to you doesn't even make it on to the thread." Ah now Ulsterman, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it 'racism'. Folks north of the border are not a distinct ethic/ racial group. He may be making crude generalizations about Ulster football but to call it racism is a bit strong, no??? avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 17/07/2023 23:35:12 2495268 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: "The biggest obstacle to the promotion of hurling in Mayo, Roscommon, Leitrim, Connemara, West Clare, South Kerry, West Cork, West Donegal, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Monaghan etc is not the refusal to support it by the county board. Those places struggle to have sufficient flat fields to allow hurling be played at all. You can play football on a farmer's field, hurling needs a proper pitch" How come hurling thrived in parts of Antrim where many native Irish were turfed out of good arable land and had to make do with plots on higher more undulating land? avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 18/07/2023 00:17:48 2495278 Link
Replying To Glensboy: "Self awareness clearly not a quality you identify with." Self awareness? Could you not see it? countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 788 - 18/07/2023 09:24:42 2495294 Link
Replying To avonali: "How come hurling thrived in parts of Antrim where many native Irish were turfed out of good arable land and had to make do with plots on higher more undulating land?" I'd say the gane there was traditionally more shinty like but they adapted GAA rules after 1884. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2292 - 18/07/2023 10:57:30 2495343 Link
Replying To avonali: "Ah now Ulsterman, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it 'racism'. Folks north of the border are not a distinct ethic/ racial group. He may be making crude generalizations about Ulster football but to call it racism is a bit strong, no???" In fairness he did say, "if it was said about anyone else", it would be. While the same poster goes way overboard at times, I do agree with the general point that there are many who make derogatory comments about people purely because they're from the 6 counties. I see it on here regularly in relation to various matters. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2318 - 18/07/2023 11:49:51 2495361 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "You sound like most of those in Britain who voted for Brexit. "It's all the foreigners fault.....so it is". Swap foreigners for Northerners and It's exactly the same. Unfortunately your view is far more common than many will admit. The fact that your totally nonsensical, sweeping statement even made it on to the boards speaks volumes. If that was said about anyone else it would be called out as bigoted racism. I bet this reply to you doesn't even make it on to the thread." I'm not saying it the foreigners fault. I am just saying they always have to blame someone else, its never their fault. They are blaming the ref for Sunday, did he kick those balls wide? Did he run out of legs on them? No. Was he diving? But yet again, just go deflect it onto someone else and attack someone for pointing out the obvious. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 788 - 18/07/2023 16:37:08 2495464 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "In fairness he did say, "if it was said about anyone else", it would be. While the same poster goes way overboard at times, I do agree with the general point that there are many who make derogatory comments about people purely because they're from the 6 counties. I see it on here regularly in relation to various matters." Then you have to ask yourself why the HS Mods allow so many hateful, spiteful anti Northern comments through? All over the various HS threads there are invariably anti Northern comments on a daily basis and the Mods don't appear to have any problem with that. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9817 - 18/07/2023 21:19:05 2495510 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "I'm not saying it the foreigners fault. I am just saying they always have to blame someone else, its never their fault. They are blaming the ref for Sunday, did he kick those balls wide? Did he run out of legs on them? No. Was he diving? But yet again, just go deflect it onto someone else and attack someone for pointing out the obvious." People from north of the border are not "foreigners"! Either you are taking the pee - and failing the part that it ought to be humorous - or you are not particularly bright? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3503 - 19/07/2023 10:07:17 2495550 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "I'm not saying it the foreigners fault. I am just saying they always have to blame someone else, its never their fault. They are blaming the ref for Sunday, did he kick those balls wide? Did he run out of legs on them? No. Was he diving? But yet again, just go deflect it onto someone else and attack someone for pointing out the obvious." Who's 'they' ? bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 377 - 19/07/2023 10:25:06 2495556 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Then you have to ask yourself why the HS Mods allow so many hateful, spiteful anti Northern comments through? All over the various HS threads there are invariably anti Northern comments on a daily basis and the Mods don't appear to have any problem with that." When you read ** like the below I have to concede you have a point. No proper GAA man/woman would use the divisive terms like "foreigners" or "king's subjects" to describe fellow Irish men. One can only assume they are not very well educated at all. I'm not saying it the foreigners fault. I am just saying they always have to blame someone else, its never their fault. They are blaming the ref for Sunday, did he kick those balls wide? Did he run out of legs on them? No. Was he diving? But yet again, just go deflect it onto someone else and attack someone for pointing out the obvious. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 18/07/2023 16:37:08 2495464 avonali (Dublin)** - Posts: 1990 - 19/07/2023 10:50:19 2495569 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "People from north of the border are not "foreigners"! Either you are taking the pee - and failing the part that it ought to be humorous - or you are not particularly bright?" I never called them that, they just called themselves that. Read the thread. Maybe they're not far wrong. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 788 - 19/07/2023 10:50:45 2495570 Link
Derry blew that semi in fairness.. We would have got slaughtered in the media if it was us who collapsed in such fashion in 2nd half and rightly so.. Brolly would have wrote another stinker of a piece!.. "bottlers" "celebtrity losers".. al that jazz! Back to the game itself. The ref wasnt great but it was the wides and goal chances that what cost Derry the game.. Even 1 or 2 of those go over to stretch it out could have been enough.. Derry will be back though As for the final, I think Kerry will do it.. Clifford will be the difference as is the case in every Kerry game in the knockout stages.. They are lucky to have him.. What a player though unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1223 - 19/07/2023 11:14:28 2495577 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "I'm not saying it the foreigners fault. I am just saying they always have to blame someone else, its never their fault. They are blaming the ref for Sunday, did he kick those balls wide? Did he run out of legs on them? No. Was he diving? But yet again, just go deflect it onto someone else and attack someone for pointing out the obvious." foreigners mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 19/07/2023 11:51:33 2495595 Link
Replying To unclegerry: "Derry blew that semi in fairness.. We would have got slaughtered in the media if it was us who collapsed in such fashion in 2nd half and rightly so.. Brolly would have wrote another stinker of a piece!.. "bottlers" "celebtrity losers".. al that jazz! Back to the game itself. The ref wasnt great but it was the wides and goal chances that what cost Derry the game.. Even 1 or 2 of those go over to stretch it out could have been enough.. Derry will be back though As for the final, I think Kerry will do it.. Clifford will be the difference as is the case in every Kerry game in the knockout stages.. They are lucky to have him.. What a player though" No question this Derry team will be there or thereabouts for the next decade or so. The age profile of the team plus minor All Ireland winners twice in the last four years means there has to be a Sam Maguire in this golden period. Maybe even more than one. I have watched the game back now a few times. We should have won and maybe a little bit of inexperience and lack of depth cost us. For what it's worth I never got the coverage over Mayo bottlers etc. Maybe a case could be made for 2021 against Tyrone or 2012 against Donegal but ye came up against the best team ever in a number of finals and but for that should have had 2 or 3 yourselves. Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 212 - 19/07/2023 12:51:17 2495611 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Its not as if the Northern teams put too much into hurling either? Hand full of clubs in each county? Kk have as many football clubs as they have hurling clubs up there." I wonder if Wexford was around 50 per cent unionist population what division they'd be in both codes? Would they even have two codes or would they do a Kilkenny and not even bother entering a football side. The 6 counties put up with a lot of ** just for existing as GAA members and despite that, they represent in both codes. You're displaying a pathetic understanding of the island you live on. A shame the schools don't send extra homework for the summer months. SaffronDon (Antrim)** - Posts: 2558 - 19/07/2023 13:24:29 2495624 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "I wonder if Wexford was around 50 per cent unionist population what division they'd be in both codes? Would they even have two codes or would they do a Kilkenny and not even bother entering a football side. The 6 counties put up with a lot of ** just for existing as GAA members and despite that, they represent in both codes. You're displaying a pathetic understanding of the island you live on. A shame the schools don't send extra homework for the summer months." Its not 50% Unionist however. Its Irish. countyman2022 (Wexford)** - Posts: 788 - 19/07/2023 14:46:30 2495657 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Its not 50% Unionist however. Its Irish." Why don't you just ** away off with yer * Ulsterman (Antrim)** - Posts: 9817 - 19/07/2023 14:59:45 2495662 Link
Replying To Ulsterman: "Why don't you just ** away off with yer *" :D :D :D realdub (Dublin)** - Posts: 8746 - 19/07/2023 16:36:47 2495680 Link
Replying To Jazzyjeff: "No question this Derry team will be there or thereabouts for the next decade or so. The age profile of the team plus minor All Ireland winners twice in the last four years means there has to be a Sam Maguire in this golden period. Maybe even more than one. I have watched the game back now a few times. We should have won and maybe a little bit of inexperience and lack of depth cost us. For what it's worth I never got the coverage over Mayo bottlers etc. Maybe a case could be made for 2021 against Tyrone or 2012 against Donegal but ye came up against the best team ever in a number of finals and but for that should have had 2 or 3 yourselves." Agree on 2021 for sure.. Was never as sickened leaving Croke Park.. Anyways hopefully the experience will stand to yous.. Your bench didnt have the same impact as theirs but as you say their is underage talent there that hopefully can make the step up unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1223 - 19/07/2023 16:41:51 2495681 Link