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Replying To Wexfordmorg:  "In fairness to Jp did he not give money to every club in Ireland when limerick won the all Ireland in 2018"
He did - €100,000 to each county, to be divided out equally between the clubs of that county.

Clubs in places like Cork didn't do as well as clubs in places like Leitrim or Carlow!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 27/07/2023 14:49:27    2497311

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Replying To Wexfordmorg:  "In fairness to Jp did he not give money to every club in Ireland when limerick won the all Ireland in 2018"
He did.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16476 - 27/07/2023 14:52:14    2497312

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Replying To Wexfordmorg:  "In fairness to Jp did he not give money to every club in Ireland when limerick won the all Ireland in 2018"
No. He gave it to every county.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2504 - 27/07/2023 15:03:29    2497313

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's no doubt that having a sort of JP McManus figure investing big money into Wexford hurling would make a big difference in the medium to longer-term, if that money was used wisely.

However, in Wexford, there'd still be complaints. If somebody said they wanted to invest €1 million in Wexford hurling, certain people would immediately ask "and what about football?"

It's happening to a smaller degree already. A few people have indicated a willingness to put good money (but not JP McManus amounts of money!) into Wexford hurling, or are already doing so. But for everything that's done with this money, there are complaints of "why can't football have the same?""
To the best of my knowledge a lot of private money has been invested into Wexford hurling.
Sorry correct way to make that statement is that a lot of private money has been misspent in Wexford hurling. Dating back to the times of DG being the Game Manager in Wexford. That was the single worst appointment in the history of Wexford GAA.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 27/07/2023 15:15:25    2497314

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "
Replying To tearintom:  "[quote=Pikeman96:  "There's no doubt that having a sort of JP McManus figure investing big money into Wexford hurling would make a big difference in the medium to longer-term, if that money was used wisely.

However, in Wexford, there'd still be complaints. If somebody said they wanted to invest €1 million in Wexford hurling, certain people would immediately ask "and what about football?"

It's happening to a smaller degree already. A few people have indicated a willingness to put good money (but not JP McManus amounts of money!) into Wexford hurling, or are already doing so. But for everything that's done with this money, there are complaints of "why can't football have the same?""
JP invests money in to Limerick GAA, not just one code."
I never said or suggested that he doesn't. What I said was that if there was any private investment into Wexford hurling, there'd be complaints that the same wasn't happening for football as well."]And proper order. We are a GAA county.

FootballRising (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 27/07/2023 15:31:12    2497317

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "
Replying To Pikeman96:  "There's no doubt that having a sort of JP McManus figure investing big money into Wexford hurling would make a big difference in the medium to longer-term, if that money was used wisely.

However, in Wexford, there'd still be complaints. If somebody said they wanted to invest €1 million in Wexford hurling, certain people would immediately ask "and what about football?"

It's happening to a smaller degree already. A few people have indicated a willingness to put good money (but not JP McManus amounts of money!) into Wexford hurling, or are already doing so. But for everything that's done with this money, there are complaints of "why can't football have the same?""
To the best of my knowledge a lot of private money has been invested into Wexford hurling.
Sorry correct way to make that statement is that a lot of private money has been misspent in Wexford hurling. Dating back to the times of DG being the Game Manager in Wexford. That was the single worst appointment in the history of Wexford GAA."
Yes, a lot of private money has been invested into Wexford hurling, and spent on Wexford hurling. "Misspent" is a matter of opinion - am staying neutral on that one.

But that's exactly what proves my point. For some of the things that the private money has been spent on in hurling, there have been complaints from certain quarters of "why can't we have the same for football?"

To be blunt, the answer is simple - no private individual has shown a willingness to pump that sort of money into football. Unfortunately we don't have a JP McManus figure from Wexford.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 27/07/2023 16:06:07    2497325

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With regard to the comment from FootballRising - there ya go. Further proof of what I'm saying.

If somebody says they want to put €500,000 into Wexford hurling, are we really going to turn around and say "only if you put €500,000 into football as well" ?

Or "thanks, but we'll only put half that money into hurling, and use the rest for football" ?

In both cases, strong chance that the person would then say "okay, you're not getting my money at all, because that's not what I offered".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 27/07/2023 16:09:27    2497326

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https://wexfordweekly.com/2022/09/07/wexford-gaa-reveal-their-new-director-of-hurling/

I know that this lad is working to a plan and I've a friend who's son is part of a development panel. He said the work that is going on with 18 and 19 year olds is top class.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 27/07/2023 17:29:41    2497339

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "With regard to the comment from FootballRising - there ya go. Further proof of what I'm saying.

If somebody says they want to put €500,000 into Wexford hurling, are we really going to turn around and say "only if you put €500,000 into football as well" ?

Or "thanks, but we'll only put half that money into hurling, and use the rest for football" ?

In both cases, strong chance that the person would then say "okay, you're not getting my money at all, because that's not what I offered"."
And likewise the other way around - if someone came along and said they would put 1m into football how many people would be saying that should be going to Hurling? fact is we have neither. The GAA should always be more than winning All Irelands and sometimes that is what people forget. In Wexford we have four major urban areas where the GAA has minimal presence and needs massive work, its not even that we are battling against other sports but the reality is its against no sport at all. Focus on getting the basics right and the rest will eventually happen.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2025 - 27/07/2023 17:38:26    2497340

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "With regard to the comment from FootballRising - there ya go. Further proof of what I'm saying.

If somebody says they want to put €500,000 into Wexford hurling, are we really going to turn around and say "only if you put €500,000 into football as well" ?

Or "thanks, but we'll only put half that money into hurling, and use the rest for football" ?

In both cases, strong chance that the person would then say "okay, you're not getting my money at all, because that's not what I offered"."
But the same goes both ways surely!! What if someone came in and said i want to put €500k into football and football only, would you be happy with that or would you turn around say thats ok so forget about hurling, i wouldnt!

First off Wexford GAA encompasses more than Hurling. It also encompasses more than Hurling and Football.

Would you be happy with some outside influence dictating how Wexford GAA spend their money?

Where does that end, ill give you money if its only spent on bringing in an outside manager who we choose? Ill give you money as long as its spent on a 4G pitch but only hurlers can use it?

Ill give you money as long as you take the Kilkenny approach and abandon football altogether, in fact ill give you millions but no more football!

To be honest i cant actually believe your honestly asking the question but each to their own!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1526 - 27/07/2023 17:43:50    2497342

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Replying To endgame:  "No. He gave it to every county."
So your saying some county boards didn't allocate the money to the clubs?

Wexfordmorg (Wexford) - Posts: 12 - 27/07/2023 17:47:28    2497344

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "https://wexfordweekly.com/2022/09/07/wexford-gaa-reveal-their-new-director-of-hurling/

I know that this lad is working to a plan and I've a friend who's son is part of a development panel. He said the work that is going on with 18 and 19 year olds is top class."
Yes, by all accounts, he's doing a good job so far.

And by the way, he's actually a perfect example of what I was talking about above. His appointment was made at least partly possible through investment by private individuals who wanted to contribute to the development of Wexford hurling, and who very clearly specified hurling when making their offer.

But more than once, I've heard it in person and seen online comments too along the lines of "why do we not also have a DIrector of Football?"

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 27/07/2023 18:02:29    2497349

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "With regard to the comment from FootballRising - there ya go. Further proof of what I'm saying.

If somebody says they want to put €500,000 into Wexford hurling, are we really going to turn around and say "only if you put €500,000 into football as well" ?

Or "thanks, but we'll only put half that money into hurling, and use the rest for football" ?

In both cases, strong chance that the person would then say "okay, you're not getting my money at all, because that's not what I offered"."
I'm playing devils advocate with my previous comment! There are very few counties with a JP and in fairness to JP he is a true gael putting money into both codes

FootballRising (Wexford) - Posts: 29 - 27/07/2023 22:08:57    2497371

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Replying To tearintom:  "But the same goes both ways surely!! What if someone came in and said i want to put €500k into football and football only, would you be happy with that or would you turn around say thats ok so forget about hurling, i wouldnt!

First off Wexford GAA encompasses more than Hurling. It also encompasses more than Hurling and Football.

Would you be happy with some outside influence dictating how Wexford GAA spend their money?

Where does that end, ill give you money if its only spent on bringing in an outside manager who we choose? Ill give you money as long as its spent on a 4G pitch but only hurlers can use it?

Ill give you money as long as you take the Kilkenny approach and abandon football altogether, in fact ill give you millions but no more football!

To be honest i cant actually believe your honestly asking the question but each to their own!"
As regards "outside influences dictating", there's a big difference between an outside influence trying to dictate how Wexford GAA spend their own money (i.e. revenue generated by Wexford GAA themselves), and how Wexford GAA spends money offered or provided by that "outside influence" for a very specific purpose.

It's a bit like the Lotto grants that my club has got a few times, and which your club may very well have got too. If you're offered a grant to go towards the cost of a new clubhouse, you can't then decide yourself to use some or all of the money on a different project instead.

Where it ends depends on how reasonable the offer and the conditions attached to it are in the first place. You'd have to take each offer on its own merits, and as they're all purely hypothetical here, probably no point in going into loads of specific examples.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2962 - 28/07/2023 11:58:48    2497417

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Any more rumours about who our next Senior Intercounty hurling manager will be? Can't believe the process is taking so long!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16476 - 31/07/2023 10:17:44    2497936

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Replying To Viking66:  "Any more rumours about who our next Senior Intercounty hurling manager will be? Can't believe the process is taking so long!"
Martin Fogarty? anyone hear this rumour. Eddie Brennan also being strongly mentioned?
Seems there isn't anyone from within the county going to lead this change.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 31/07/2023 12:00:08    2497987

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Replying To Viking66:  "Any more rumours about who our next Senior Intercounty hurling manager will be? Can't believe the process is taking so long!"
Heard rumours of Declan Ruth, Anthony Cunningham and Pat Bennett all in the running, don't know how concrete or not these are.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/07/2023 12:02:05    2497990

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Replying To Viking66:  "Any more rumours about who our next Senior Intercounty hurling manager will be? Can't believe the process is taking so long!"
Derek McGrath was interviewed the other evening. Not sure of outcome or opinion on it.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 31/07/2023 15:30:33    2498098

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Derek McGrath was interviewed the other evening. Not sure of outcome or opinion on it."
Being brutally honest the last person I'd want.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 31/07/2023 16:11:59    2498123

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Being brutally honest the last person I'd want."
I know.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 31/07/2023 16:26:49    2498136

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