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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Big news to wake up to this morning but I am surprised it took so long. The selection team must have somebody ready to announce, is there a county board meeting coming up for ratification?
My gf family knows the Egan's and they are decent people. Some of what has been said on line about him is disgraceful.
Now that said, its a results business and unfortunately, after 2 years not beating Westmeath, Dublin or Galway the axe was always likely to fall. But that doesn't entitle nobody's on line to throw some of what was said about him in the wake of the Westmeath game.
I hope the next team is a Wexford team. Give them time if its Rossi, Skippy, Joe Fortune, JJ, whoever it is. But very few outside men are ultimately successful. Money is better spent on coaches in the county than expensive inter county coaches.
Its a big job ahead but some good u20's and minors coming. Might as well wipe the slate clean and hope they put it in and come through.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1857 - 17/07/2023 22:44:28    2495263

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Another thing was a few of the senior players really pushed for Egan to stay (the undroppales) but outside of them both a mix of panel members and county board members were not impressed by him this year.

There was no comeback for him after the Westmeath match if truth be told."
Some of those undroppables need a long overdue reality check.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 424 - 17/07/2023 23:29:14    2495266

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Replying To beano:  "To the surprise of absolutely no-one who expects progress and improvement. A nice fella, just didn't work out. Departs with a 100% win record in championship against Kilkenny but no wins in two vs. Westmeath, which sums up his tenure really."
If i ever saw a Monday morning quarter back, if you were so sure why did it take til 7 weeks after the KK game to make this point, personally I taught a change was best particularly after the Westmeath debacle, I don't think it reflects well on the county board it took this long, this decision should have been made 1 way or another by the end of June, if you were so certain of this why was Egan present at some of the club games over the last few weeks? Given its this late in the day i was really surprised by today's announcement.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 17/07/2023 23:54:42    2495274

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Darragh Egan in fairness came across as a nice fella but offered nothing in terms of a game plan or in game structure. Took too long to take players off when struggling. To be honest he should have walked away after that capitulation against Westmeath. That was one of the most embarrassing days supporting wexford and there has been a fair few.

As the next manager herity is free Brennan is free sheedy is free. They would be the ones that I would maybe look at. If we go near Derek mcgrath there will be some amount of retirements I'd say. Dalo is free but can't see him coming to wexford for his cushy work with rte and the examiner. Pat Bennett could be an outside bet from Waterford won the wexford championship last year with ferns and they are flying again this year. Within the county I would say Declan skippy ruth would be a popular choice maybe with Keith rossiter as a selector. Other than that I can't see too many others.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 366 - 18/07/2023 08:33:16    2495285

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Darragh Egan in fairness came across as a nice fella but offered nothing in terms of a game plan or in game structure. Took too long to take players off when struggling. To be honest he should have walked away after that capitulation against Westmeath. That was one of the most embarrassing days supporting wexford and there has been a fair few.

As the next manager herity is free Brennan is free sheedy is free. They would be the ones that I would maybe look at. If we go near Derek mcgrath there will be some amount of retirements I'd say. Dalo is free but can't see him coming to wexford for his cushy work with rte and the examiner. Pat Bennett could be an outside bet from Waterford won the wexford championship last year with ferns and they are flying again this year. Within the county I would say Declan skippy ruth would be a popular choice maybe with Keith rossiter as a selector. Other than that I can't see too many others.

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 366 - 18/07/2023 09:09:22    2495289

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Hearing rumours myself that David Herity is hotly tipped, did a decent job with Kildare to be fair. I know a few Wexford people mentioned but not sure if any are ready yet to make the step up. Rossiter only has two years with the U21s, while I understand he was part of Davys back room team, I think we can aim for someone with more experience.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 482 - 18/07/2023 09:28:05    2495296

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Some of those undroppables need a long overdue reality check."
I 100% agree and a lot probably do but really having been at a few of the senior and inter match's this year our undroppables are still the stand out players in this years club championship.... I think James Lawlor (hasn't conceded a goal yet), Devitt (Stand out player in inter grade), Simon Donohoe & Hearne (been excellent for Shels), Liam Ryan, Dee, Kevin Foley; Liam Óg, Oisín Foley; Rory O'Connor, Mac, Chin, all started the Kilkenny game and are all producing it so far in champ. There aren't too many lads that aren't involved already putting their hands up. Some seem to think that there are 20 lads playing club champ that need to be called up.... would struggle to name 5.

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 182 - 18/07/2023 10:02:01    2495306

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "County board needs a new overhaul. What a terrible decision. Egan was very unlucky this year and had all his backroom team in place for next year with the players backing, he should of been giving another chance, he was almost there! Apparantly there was a big blow up today with the county board,
Now we get a new manager and start all over again, a good bulk of the team only have a year or two left at the top flight! This was a bad decision!"
'He was almost there'…..!!! Where exactly??? He oversaw a defeat to Westmeath when we we were 16 points ahead at halftime. And totally abject displays against Galway and Dublin. He had to go.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 272 - 18/07/2023 10:08:07    2495310

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Replying To grassroots01:  "I 100% agree and a lot probably do but really having been at a few of the senior and inter match's this year our undroppables are still the stand out players in this years club championship.... I think James Lawlor (hasn't conceded a goal yet), Devitt (Stand out player in inter grade), Simon Donohoe & Hearne (been excellent for Shels), Liam Ryan, Dee, Kevin Foley; Liam Óg, Oisín Foley; Rory O'Connor, Mac, Chin, all started the Kilkenny game and are all producing it so far in champ. There aren't too many lads that aren't involved already putting their hands up. Some seem to think that there are 20 lads playing club champ that need to be called up.... would struggle to name 5."
In my opinion the nature of our club championships make it harder for players to stand out.

The county players are used to going week to week, have the conditioning to do so from county training compared to the average club player.

Hurling for 5/6/7 weeks on the trot with nothing for over 6 months does nothing for the average club player and nothing to develop players for our county team, for both codes.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1515 - 18/07/2023 10:13:50    2495311

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "David Franks"
He's from Offaly

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 18/07/2023 10:18:22    2495316

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I feel for Darragh, as many have said by all accounts a decent fellow and its a pity this is how his involvement with Wexford ends BUT I think its for the best on balance. I'm not a fan of chopping and changing managers but after the season we had something had to happen or what message was it sending? I do think Egan had horrible luck this year and if he'd someone overcome either Dublin or Westmeath his 3rd could have been an interesting one. Instead its back to the drawing board. We're not coming down with unused talent so its going to largely be the same group with most of our key men moving into the latter end of their careers so it could be a tough year or more ahead. Again my thanks to Darragh Egan and good luck to whoever takes over the role.

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 106 - 18/07/2023 10:43:00    2495334

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Inevitable Egan was done after vote called at county board meeting which went against him. Anything that could go wrong went wrong this year and Egan will have learned more about management than he will probably ever do for the rest of his coaching career.
Unfortunately none of the names being mentioned as possible replacement give me reason to be optimistic going forward. Therefore I would have preferred him to stay with some new faces in his back room team.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 18/07/2023 10:55:38    2495339

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I think everyone and everything in Wexford GAA should be looked at this winter. From players not committing to the attitude of supporters.
In Thurles in 2022, Wexford were in an All-Ireland Quarter Final and had about 4-5k supporters. I don't buy excuses, it wasn't as if they were rank underdogs and expecting a hiding that day. That was a golden chance to make an All-Ireland semi final and 50k Wexford people would have started shouting about tickets. But alas Clare had the support down the stretch whereas Wexford had little or none.
Then in the u20 this year, the crowd was just as bad and Wexford were completely outnumbered. I am not even from Wexford and brought my young lads. Wexford people wouldn't even go to Carlow to a match? What is up with the supporters? If Wexford made that All-Ireland, 40k would have gone to Thurles proclaiming Wexford great supporters.
No point asking why young players don't commit and give up their lives to only play in front of a few thousand supporters. I'd think hard about being bothered as well.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1368 - 18/07/2023 11:58:49    2495365

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I think everyone and everything in Wexford GAA should be looked at this winter. From players not committing to the attitude of supporters.
In Thurles in 2022, Wexford were in an All-Ireland Quarter Final and had about 4-5k supporters. I don't buy excuses, it wasn't as if they were rank underdogs and expecting a hiding that day. That was a golden chance to make an All-Ireland semi final and 50k Wexford people would have started shouting about tickets. But alas Clare had the support down the stretch whereas Wexford had little or none.
Then in the u20 this year, the crowd was just as bad and Wexford were completely outnumbered. I am not even from Wexford and brought my young lads. Wexford people wouldn't even go to Carlow to a match? What is up with the supporters? If Wexford made that All-Ireland, 40k would have gone to Thurles proclaiming Wexford great supporters.
No point asking why young players don't commit and give up their lives to only play in front of a few thousand supporters. I'd think hard about being bothered as well."
It is a good point. I think Wexford is a sport mad county and apart from being dual both rugby and soccer are very popular. There is probably 5000-8000 die hard hurling supporters and 500-800 football ones. If the hurlers get to a big game then the supporters who are equally Leinster rugby/ man utd/Liverpool fans want a day out and throw on the wexford jersey.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 18/07/2023 12:40:58    2495383

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Can't answer for others but personally I hate going to Thurles, not a fan and don't buy into the lore around the place at all. The GAA treat hurling quarter finals like an unwanted child, Saturday afternoon, get them out of the way affairs.

Add to this we're sick of the sight of Clare...

On top of this, there is a pattern of collapses in these games going back years so belief is thin on the ground. I agree support is vital and in the two games you reference a strong Wexford support could have made the critical difference but support has to be earned too especially given the cost of fuel and rising prices people are more cautious.

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 106 - 18/07/2023 12:57:08    2495391

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Replying To wexford2012:  "Can't answer for others but personally I hate going to Thurles, not a fan and don't buy into the lore around the place at all. The GAA treat hurling quarter finals like an unwanted child, Saturday afternoon, get them out of the way affairs.

Add to this we're sick of the sight of Clare...

On top of this, there is a pattern of collapses in these games going back years so belief is thin on the ground. I agree support is vital and in the two games you reference a strong Wexford support could have made the critical difference but support has to be earned too especially given the cost of fuel and rising prices people are more cautious."
What you are describing is a classic chicken and egg situation sadly.
I'll give you an analogy to think about over lunch. No doubt like everyone you have friends. I even have a few myself. Over the years I've had friends who were good time friends. There for you if you are drinking a pint with them. Pulling with you if you are going the way the want to go too. Good for a laugh when you're in great form. But my real friends are the people who were there for me when things weren't going great.
As regards prices of petrol, and the price people put on their time, what is these peoples excuse for the pathetic support for the Westmeath game? It was in Wexford Park. There were approximately 2000 Wexford supporters there. Probably less than most of the Joe Mac counties had at their home games. And definitely less than any county our so called supporters like to compare ours to at hurling probably ever got for a Championship hurling game. The players and management put thousands of hours into this season just gone. And lads couldn't even be bothered driving a few miles into the Park to support them. Tbh most of our "supporters" don't deserve to be following a Liam Mccarthy side. If the competitions were ranked on real supporters we would be what we nearly became this year- a Joe Mac County at best.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 18/07/2023 13:51:12    2495406

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Hearing rumours myself that David Herity is hotly tipped, did a decent job with Kildare to be fair. I know a few Wexford people mentioned but not sure if any are ready yet to make the step up. Rossiter only has two years with the U21s, while I understand he was part of Davys back room team, I think we can aim for someone with more experience."
Heard this morning Kilkenny man living in Wexford Pat Hoban is interested aswel ( Managed Kilkenny minors to All Ireland title in 2014 & a led Ballyhale to the Club All Ireland v Dunloy last year.

Maybe Hoban as manager and Herity as coach could be a good ticket.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 954 - 18/07/2023 14:42:00    2495419

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Replying To Viking66:  "He's from Offaly"
Living, working and hurling in Kilkenny for years.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 18/07/2023 14:52:26    2495425

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Heard this morning Kilkenny man living in Wexford Pat Hoban is interested aswel ( Managed Kilkenny minors to All Ireland title in 2014 & a led Ballyhale to the Club All Ireland v Dunloy last year.

Maybe Hoban as manager and Herity as coach could be a good ticket."
Heard this morning from a Kilkenny lad that Herity would be expensive, well he said "he wouldn't come cheap"! He reckoned Brennan was desperate for the Wexford job when Davy left. Same lad thought Eamon O Shea was a very good coach especially for younger players and forwards, if he was interested. Pat Hoban would be an interesting choice. Has good intercounty experience at Intermediate and Minor.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16146 - 18/07/2023 14:54:12    2495426

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Hearing rumours myself that David Herity is hotly tipped, did a decent job with Kildare to be fair. I know a few Wexford people mentioned but not sure if any are ready yet to make the step up. Rossiter only has two years with the U21s, while I understand he was part of Davys back room team, I think we can aim for someone with more experience."
Be very worried about Kildares complete capitulation this season though, after they lost the league final they were hurled up a stick everyday.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 18/07/2023 14:54:47    2495427

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