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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I know from talking to one of the players last week that a meeting was supposed to take place on Sunday evening. Haven't heard anything from it though, and to be honest, wouldn't expect it to be the sort of thing that you'd get a lot of detail about anyway."
We shouldn't hear anything about it. Unless you are on Fenlons committee?!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 20/06/2023 16:43:45    2487892

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Replying To Viking66:  "We shouldn't hear anything about it. Unless you are on Fenlons committee?!"
I'm definitely not on that committee!!

Anyway, that's exactly what I mean - I wouldn't expect to hear anything from it, and nor should we. Am sure players were encouraged to be as frank and honest as possible, so it wouldn't be right for anyone else who was there to go talking about what was said.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 20/06/2023 19:52:34    2487960

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Question is lads would ye keep Egan? If no who do ye think should over

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 21/06/2023 09:00:37    2488017

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Question is lads would ye keep Egan? If no who do ye think should over"
If we can't get anyone better, like I think Tom Mulaaly might be, I think we should stick with him and hope he has learnt from this year and will apply his learnings to next year. Getting rid of him then starting now to look for a replacement would be a disaster if they have noone better lined up already.
If he stays, and I would only give him one more year for now, Darragh Egan needs to motivate the lads better 1st and foremost. He needs to start putting the same time and effort into all the panel to motivate them, not just certain members of it. Maybe get a better psychologist on board. We can't say we don't have the hurlers but we do need to work out, or he does, why our record against Galway, Dublin and Westmeath is so much worse than our record against Kilkenny in his time over the team.
He needs to look at what we were doing in training and analyse exactly what caused at least 18 players to miss periods of at least a few weeks of this season.
Also look closely at the club championships see if can spot some other potential panellists, which in fairness I think he did last year.
He and his management team need to be a whole lot better in many ways than last year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 21/06/2023 11:10:15    2488066

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Should he not have learned from last year, for this year?
You learn in the club game or underage, senior hurling is the big boys league. There is no hiding place or excuses. You do it or you don't.
Remembering the mood in the county coming in to that Kilkenny game, and the disastrous year Wexford had, I find it unthinkable that he comes back.
Just my outside, albeit interested view.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1337 - 21/06/2023 12:20:17    2488109

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Should he not have learned from last year, for this year?
You learn in the club game or underage, senior hurling is the big boys league. There is no hiding place or excuses. You do it or you don't.
Remembering the mood in the county coming in to that Kilkenny game, and the disastrous year Wexford had, I find it unthinkable that he comes back.
Just my outside, albeit interested view."
I agree I'd rather someone better was in place. The point I was making is that there's no point jumping out of the frying pan into the deep fat fryer.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 21/06/2023 13:07:51    2488131

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Hope he stays. Tom Mulally could be available the following year. Be a pity to miss out.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 793 - 21/06/2023 13:11:58    2488132

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Question is lads would ye keep Egan? If no who do ye think should over"
Not a chance would I keep him on.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1132 - 21/06/2023 17:06:19    2488223

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I'd personally go after Joe Fortune. He has won both Leinster finals with Dublin beating us at minor, u21 and Senior now with 'lesser' hurling teams/counties. Ed Rowsome reminded people of that on the last Wexford podcast. He's also won a Senior Dublin club title with Ballyboden. He is also a Wexford man!! Westmeath are far from a division one hurling county and he has won Division 2 and kept them up there in Senior Leinster championship again drawing with us last year. Before Joe was in Westmeath did we even know apart from a minor grade blip they were in the same league as us?? Going to Joe McD this year is reality of where teams like Westmeath/Carlow/Laois are but he has been very successful and is a very passionate Wexford man, I know our own young lads raved about him. Put him with Declan Ruth/Fenlon and light a fire under these lads! Just my euros worth at this stage.

96andproud (Wexford) - Posts: 33 - 22/06/2023 10:52:03    2488356

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Replying To 96andproud:  "I'd personally go after Joe Fortune. He has won both Leinster finals with Dublin beating us at minor, u21 and Senior now with 'lesser' hurling teams/counties. Ed Rowsome reminded people of that on the last Wexford podcast. He's also won a Senior Dublin club title with Ballyboden. He is also a Wexford man!! Westmeath are far from a division one hurling county and he has won Division 2 and kept them up there in Senior Leinster championship again drawing with us last year. Before Joe was in Westmeath did we even know apart from a minor grade blip they were in the same league as us?? Going to Joe McD this year is reality of where teams like Westmeath/Carlow/Laois are but he has been very successful and is a very passionate Wexford man, I know our own young lads raved about him. Put him with Declan Ruth/Fenlon and light a fire under these lads! Just my euros worth at this stage."
It's hard to disagree with your reasoning about Joe Fortune becoming our next manager.
Only problem is, wasn't there bad blood between him and our county chairman last year in that drawn game against Westmeath.That may or may not be a factor.
If the county board were to go for someone else and that someone else didn't measure up, what then? It would take us back to square one again.
If Egan was to stay for another year there would be no guarantee that the next guy would be any better but maybe in 12 months time more potential managers might emerge.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 453 - 22/06/2023 15:15:13    2488456

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Replying To Magpie2:  "It's hard to disagree with your reasoning about Joe Fortune becoming our next manager.
Only problem is, wasn't there bad blood between him and our county chairman last year in that drawn game against Westmeath.That may or may not be a factor.
If the county board were to go for someone else and that someone else didn't measure up, what then? It would take us back to square one again.
If Egan was to stay for another year there would be no guarantee that the next guy would be any better but maybe in 12 months time more potential managers might emerge."
No guarantee the chairman will seek another term and he's finished his 3 years this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 22/06/2023 17:10:59    2488494

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Replying To Viking66:  "No guarantee the chairman will seek another term and he's finished his 3 years this year."
And that would be a significant setback unless his successor is someone of a progressive mindset and a good leader

wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 94 - 23/06/2023 14:11:50    2488656

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Replying To Magpie2:  "It's hard to disagree with your reasoning about Joe Fortune becoming our next manager.
Only problem is, wasn't there bad blood between him and our county chairman last year in that drawn game against Westmeath.That may or may not be a factor.
If the county board were to go for someone else and that someone else didn't measure up, what then? It would take us back to square one again.
If Egan was to stay for another year there would be no guarantee that the next guy would be any better but maybe in 12 months time more potential managers might emerge."
Bad blood happens all the time in GAA, in the "heat of battle" things are said, done, etc that people regret afterwards.
Players kill one another for clubs and go out and put on county jersey and become brothers in arms.
Many bridges get mended when the adrenaline stops pumping.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1337 - 23/06/2023 14:25:22    2488664

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Replying To Viking66:  "No guarantee the chairman will seek another term and he's finished his 3 years this year."
He's actually allowed to serve five years before having to step aside (same as most other positions on Management Committee), and leaving the role any earlier would be personal choice. But yeah, he's signalled that he's considering stepping down after this year.

In fairness, I'd say three years in that job would be enough for most people, when you consider everything it involves.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2856 - 23/06/2023 15:23:52    2488687

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Word is players are wanting Darragh Egan to remain.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 23/06/2023 19:55:35    2488726

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I realize that being an inter county manager can be stressful and very demanding. However what are the factors that negate recruiting from your own county ? Not being ingenuous but is it managing people skills ? Coaching ability that usually entails another different position anyway ? Ability to make quick decision that you would think are more collective now ? The time to put to it especially if already have a career and family to look after ? In fairness I guess it is like managing a small company but with limited authority to make on the decisions when it comes to financing etc. It is hard to believe though that a capable person from Wexford cannot be found with the rich knowledge of hurling that exists. I think the same in Waterford.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3039 - 23/06/2023 22:50:00    2488737

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "He's actually allowed to serve five years before having to step aside (same as most other positions on Management Committee), and leaving the role any earlier would be personal choice. But yeah, he's signalled that he's considering stepping down after this year.

In fairness, I'd say three years in that job would be enough for most people, when you consider everything it involves."
I'd say it's a tough job ok. It's hard to please everyone in any job. Impossible in that one.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 24/06/2023 08:24:03    2488752

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Replying To Canuck:  "I realize that being an inter county manager can be stressful and very demanding. However what are the factors that negate recruiting from your own county ? Not being ingenuous but is it managing people skills ? Coaching ability that usually entails another different position anyway ? Ability to make quick decision that you would think are more collective now ? The time to put to it especially if already have a career and family to look after ? In fairness I guess it is like managing a small company but with limited authority to make on the decisions when it comes to financing etc. It is hard to believe though that a capable person from Wexford cannot be found with the rich knowledge of hurling that exists. I think the same in Waterford."
We had home managers Liam Dunne ,John Conran and John Myler but there was a problem with them 2.Always the managers fault here in Wexford .The real problem is every year we win a few matches we get carried away and we think we're better than what we are.If one more person says yo me sure we bet Kilkenny we're not that far away I'll scream.We sre that bad Kilkenny won 4 Leinster in s row and they think they have a poor side we won nothing and think all is good except the manager. Pure nonsense puts me in van humour.

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 340 - 24/06/2023 11:45:06    2488769

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Word is players are wanting Darragh Egan to remain."
Which players?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15719 - 24/06/2023 14:08:20    2488803

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Replying To Viking66:  "Which players?"
Didn't say which players. Probably we will never know. So it looks like Egan is staying put.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 453 - 24/06/2023 16:46:54    2488844

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