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I was just thinking that same thing the other day. Like aside from anything else, I can't help thinking that story isn't getting the headlines relative to the atrocity it was. A poor young child and his grand aunt. Completely innocent. Fair play to the local soccer club for organising the vigil. Where is the activism and outrage among these right wingers about drugs and specifically the cocaine scourge now everywhere in the country (it's a rhetorical question really because a lot of the "patriots" are knee deep in it). The levels of addiction and drug debt intimidation is off the charts and it is not restricted to age or social grouping anymore. Drug gangs have their reach into every village in the country. It is frightening what has happened to some small towns.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 511 - 12/12/2025 17:55:39 2648157 Link 1 |
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Absolutely. Crazy how the issue is not front and centre. It has become so normalised now especially among young people but not restricted to them by any means. Sadly it was only a matter of time before an atrocity like that happened.
FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 511 - 12/12/2025 18:05:30 2648158 Link 0 |
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Agreed. Sadly it is in every village in the country.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1968 - 12/12/2025 18:57:12 2648160 Link 0 |
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The second biggest scourge is the people buying them, whether its people buying a couple of linesworth for Saturday night or full on spoon heads, each are as equally to blame. If there was no demand there'd be no supply. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2625 - 12/12/2025 22:24:54 2648172 Link 3 |
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Nail on head. People - Dublin people - took on drug gangs for years. The gangs sold heroin which is much more overtly socially destructive. Main gangs now are smart enough to avoid heroin. As Bon says their customer base is huge. Weed smoking working class - you literally smell it everywhere- to coke in more "respectable" and younger. Anyone who buys any illegal drugs has share in Edenderry. Same as if supermarket chains were burning rivals houses. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3873 - 13/12/2025 07:53:23 2648178 Link 3 |
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The smell of weed especially in Dublin City in recent months is unreal. Their is a greater Garda visibility around OConnell street then 10 years ago I regularly see people getting nicked when I'm around there jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 13/12/2025 09:32:28 2648184 Link 0 |
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How do you achieve no demand? A massive wealth re-distribution programme in Irish society might reduce demand for heroine, but would likely in turn lead to more demand for cocaine. And drink likely causes way more deaths than cannabis, should we ban it too? What about cigarettes? Sweets and sugar? Chips and other fatty foods? The problem is human nature, and more specifically greed. Most things arent too harmful in moderation, but unfortunately moderation isnt something the average human is any good at. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17794 - 13/12/2025 14:26:51 2648215 Link 0 |
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Sweets, sugar etc are legal and sold by proper retailers. Cocaine etc is totally transported and sold by out and out criminals who are kept in business by all who use their illegal products. Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 278 - 13/12/2025 16:16:45 2648228 Link 2 |
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I'm not arguing with you on that. You are absolutely right. But you said about restricting demand. I was making the point that humans arent great at not wanting things that make them feel good but are bad for them. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17794 - 13/12/2025 17:30:44 2648235 Link 0 |
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Measeles cases up 140% in the US. What a great job this administration is doing. Hats off to RFK jr. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11838 - 14/12/2025 12:06:02 2648303 Link 0 |
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They're up in Europe/Britain, Canada, etc too. And BTW RFK has endorsed the Measles vaccine. But keep trying I need a good laugh.
SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 128 - 14/12/2025 13:27:47 2648308 Link 1 |
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There's lots of things that could potentially cause deaths but most of these things don't involve an illegal criminal element or people's houses getting attacked or the complete breakdown of society as we've been witnessing because of drugs.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2625 - 14/12/2025 16:06:03 2648327 Link 1 |
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Nothing funny about kids dying from measeles.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11838 - 14/12/2025 18:41:56 2648344 Link 1 |
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Vking I think what you are overlooking is the nature of the products involved. The problem with reducing demand is the narrative around drugs and that it has always been a working class problem . That has allowed the middle class to absolve themselves from the impact of the problem in society. Where are the government, media and other campaigns focusing on the moral decadence of their own class? the moral responsibility for the implications with the use of drugs needs to front and center in reducing demand.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2131 - 14/12/2025 21:35:07 2648357 Link 0 |
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Ah yeah he's a well known supporter of vaccines and doesn't think they are related to autism....oh wait.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8677 - 14/12/2025 22:28:26 2648365 Link 0 |
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/us-sport/2025/1215/1549037-dream-scenario-smyth-revels-in-game-winning-heroics/ Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4752 - 15/12/2025 08:40:35 2648370 Link 1 |
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I agree. I wrote a similar post the other day but it didn't get through with particular reference to white collar professionals. The older I get, the more authoritarian my views are becoming. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4071 - 15/12/2025 08:47:57 2648371 Link 1 |
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Is it naive to think someone in marketing in the GAA could use these good news stories to get a bit of publicity for Gaelic Football? Might sell a few GAA+ subs or a few jersies and a few Yanks might want to go to games when they visit here.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8399 - 15/12/2025 10:23:56 2648378 Link 0 |
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Drug use is perfectly acceptable in many places, high and low. Coke was detected in Leinster House toilets! I've seen lads snorting in bars before matches, lads who looked like they play themselves. The smell of weed is only a wisp of wind away. I personally couldn't care less what someone else does if it doesn't interfere with me but if you buy drugs then you bear a personal responsibility for what those and other drug dealers do . There appears to be a disconnect on that level. As for why people don't protest anymore, it is literally for the above reasons. They are someone close to them uses the product being sold. And it no longer has the in your face social impact that heroin trade did, other than when something dreadful like Edenderry of the young fella from Drogheda who apparently died under torture and mutilation. I mean if Guinnesses were at that I wouldn't be giving them my custom! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3873 - 15/12/2025 10:25:36 2648379 Link 1 |
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Cant see connection really working much until you have lads playing outside kicking position
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 15/12/2025 10:34:02 2648382 Link 0 |