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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Same people who are attacking flying the tricolour as racist now are same sort of people who attacked it as signalling support for the Provos 30 years ago. Ironically, since they surrendered the Shinners are now among the first gang!" Is the flag not one of reconciliation and peace? Flying the flag is not racist but racists flying the flag is abhorrent to everything the flag represents. For that matter so to the use of the Flag by the Provos. I guess Meagher may have believe one day it would represent a united country in peace however why it was used in 1916 and subsequently adopted by the Free State is a mystery as it was pretty clear by then the symbolism would not make any inroads with the orange side. Perhaps it shows how little the leaders at the time understood what the attitudes of the orange side really were. Generally Irish people care little about the flag or the anthem. How many times world over have we seen drawings, pictures, writing on the flag and how many times do we get to hear the anthem respected to the end at GAA games. No a word said about it. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2093 - 12/10/2025 16:31:33 2639491 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "I had to go back as I have 3 different posters demanding I answer a question. So your post makes no sense . Take back the flag ? From who exactly?" Take it back from the racists you were ranting about.... read the post I was replying to for god sake :rolleyes: And if you cared to read the question I posted, I said, how do we take it back... it's not a crime to fly a flag. But no, you're busy getting offended about flying a flag. Talk about woke. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1544 - 12/10/2025 16:35:26 2639492 Link
Replying To Square_B: "Take it back from the racists you were ranting about.... read the post I was replying to for god sake :rolleyes: And if you cared to read the question I posted, I said, how do we take it back... it's not a crime to fly a flag. But no, you're busy getting offended about flying a flag. Talk about woke." Ah woke. There we are. A nice lazy comment. Again your post made no sense. So roll those eyes lad. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 12/10/2025 16:45:33 2639496 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Totally missing my point. The take back the flag eejits i have encountered question the likes of me. Yet most of them are not invested in Irish culture. But claim they are. I will keep asking the same question. Why is the flag phenomenon a recent development? Here and in the UK? We all know what it's linked to. Or did all these people just suddenly decide they were proud to be Irish in the past couple of years?" I usually see the Irish Flags out at St Patrick's Day, around the Olympics, Major sporting events like when Ireland was doing well by qualifying for the World Cup, etc. Never thought about it too much which is why you puzzle me. Don't trends come and go? Maybe it's just a simple trend and these people are just ordinary people no more harmful than yourself but you'll never know if you just sit there and assume the worst possible notions. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 55 - 12/10/2025 17:20:42 2639502 Link
Ah the lads throwing in sporting events and Patrick's day. Unreal banter . TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 12/10/2025 17:49:49 2639510 Link
Replying To zinny: "Is the flag not one of reconciliation and peace? Flying the flag is not racist but racists flying the flag is abhorrent to everything the flag represents. For that matter so to the use of the Flag by the Provos. I guess Meagher may have believe one day it would represent a united country in peace however why it was used in 1916 and subsequently adopted by the Free State is a mystery as it was pretty clear by then the symbolism would not make any inroads with the orange side. Perhaps it shows how little the leaders at the time understood what the attitudes of the orange side really were. Generally Irish people care little about the flag or the anthem. How many times world over have we seen drawings, pictures, writing on the flag and how many times do we get to hear the anthem respected to the end at GAA games. No a word said about it." 'how many times do we get to hear the anthem respected to the end at GAA games' Very rarely Zinny. Usually breaks into 'hon Mayo', etc around the last line. Seems most supporters too rarely face the flag during the anthem, they look towards the pitch and two teams facing the flag. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8271 - 12/10/2025 18:17:46 2639524 Link
There's a lot bigger problems in the country than the National Flag being flown.. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2532 - 12/10/2025 18:20:34 2639527 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "So not only am I dealing with lads denying the reason why our flag has only become very popular recently but now I am dealing with you posting this? I have absolutely zero clue what you are talking about. You are obviously confusing me with someone else but don't let that stop you." I might be in fairness. I wasn't sure which is why I asked. It was on this thread and it was somebody from mayo. I was actually asking. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3961 - 12/10/2025 18:26:48 2639529 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I might be in fairness. I wasn't sure which is why I asked. It was on this thread and it was somebody from mayo. I was actually asking." Right. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 12/10/2025 18:47:41 2639535 Link
Replying To Bon: "There's a lot bigger problems in the country than the National Flag being flown.." Yeah like immigration apparently. Oh wait...... TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 12/10/2025 19:06:04 2639537 Link
Replying To zinny: "Is the flag not one of reconciliation and peace? Flying the flag is not racist but racists flying the flag is abhorrent to everything the flag represents. For that matter so to the use of the Flag by the Provos. I guess Meagher may have believe one day it would represent a united country in peace however why it was used in 1916 and subsequently adopted by the Free State is a mystery as it was pretty clear by then the symbolism would not make any inroads with the orange side. Perhaps it shows how little the leaders at the time understood what the attitudes of the orange side really were. Generally Irish people care little about the flag or the anthem. How many times world over have we seen drawings, pictures, writing on the flag and how many times do we get to hear the anthem respected to the end at GAA games. No a word said about it." Brevity is the Soul of Wit. Study up before you engage BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3714 - 12/10/2025 21:16:08 2639588 Link
Replying To SouthGalway: "I usually see the Irish Flags out at St Patrick's Day, around the Olympics, Major sporting events like when Ireland was doing well by qualifying for the World Cup, etc. Never thought about it too much which is why you puzzle me. Don't trends come and go? Maybe it's just a simple trend and these people are just ordinary people no more harmful than yourself but you'll never know if you just sit there and assume the worst possible notions." At far right and anti immigration rallies, what is the purpose of having the Irish flag? Its not just Ireland but other countries as well. The USA for all their issues have always respected their flag far more that we ever would do on both sides of their political debate however as their society has become more polarised the flag has started to represent different things to each side although both carry it with pride. In our country its being used a something that people want to use to send a message to others, and that's not one of peace and reconciliation. I am not sure why you are making a big deal about what the poster said on the issue as its a very valid point. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2093 - 13/10/2025 02:39:02 2639640 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah woke. There we are. A nice lazy comment. Again your post made no sense. So roll those eyes lad." I asked you how do we take our flag back from racists because apparently now there's a problem flying the tricolour on poles. Care to answer that question or are you going to keep pretending that the question makes no sense? Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1544 - 13/10/2025 07:39:56 2639646 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Yeah like immigration apparently. Oh wait......" I think people mean how can people with good intentions fly it. Like we had one outside the house a few years ago for a few weeks with the Olympic flag for an Olympic medalist in the village How can that be distinguished from "patriots" who hang it out jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1686 - 13/10/2025 09:40:11 2639671 Link
Replying To jm25: "I think people mean how can people with good intentions fly it. Like we had one outside the house a few years ago for a few weeks with the Olympic flag for an Olympic medalist in the village How can that be distinguished from "patriots" who hang it out" It's pretty easy to distinguish. You literally explained why. I already mentioned sports related stuff. I don't know why people on here are trying to claim it isn't as it seems. This started in England and America in the past few years and now it's here. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 13/10/2025 09:52:53 2639673 Link
Replying To Square_B: "I asked you how do we take our flag back from racists because apparently now there's a problem flying the tricolour on poles. Care to answer that question or are you going to keep pretending that the question makes no sense?" You are claiming there are not racist intentions behind the sudden love flying of our flag. So there's not much point debating it is there? There were no flags being randomly put up 5 years ago. The sudden love of our flag is quite a coincidence. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8549 - 13/10/2025 09:58:22 2639674 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You are claiming there are not racist intentions behind the sudden love flying of our flag. So there's not much point debating it is there? There were no flags being randomly put up 5 years ago. The sudden love of our flag is quite a coincidence." I asked you how do we (normal people was the expression I used) take it back given this sudden issue with flying a flag. I'm not looking for a debate. Simple question. Tell the audience what would you do? Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1544 - 13/10/2025 10:28:47 2639682 Link
Replying To zinny: "At far right and anti immigration rallies, what is the purpose of having the Irish flag? Its not just Ireland but other countries as well. The USA for all their issues have always respected their flag far more that we ever would do on both sides of their political debate however as their society has become more polarised the flag has started to represent different things to each side although both carry it with pride. In our country its being used a something that people want to use to send a message to others, and that's not one of peace and reconciliation. I am not sure why you are making a big deal about what the poster said on the issue as its a very valid point." Making a big deal? I think you have it backwards or you need to read much slower. Im just puzzled how it is assumed that hanging an Irish Flag either on your property or on a Twitter post has to be a negative thing. Go back and read the thread much slower so you can see for yourself. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 55 - 13/10/2025 11:05:44 2639691 Link
Replying To jm25: "I think people mean how can people with good intentions fly it. Like we had one outside the house a few years ago for a few weeks with the Olympic flag for an Olympic medalist in the village How can that be distinguished from "patriots" who hang it out" I haven't really thought about this issue too much but I do know of a good few houses around Wexford who have flown a tricolour 24/7, 365 days a year, for at least the last 30 years. I even know of a couple that were painted green, white and gold 30 years ago. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17206 - 13/10/2025 11:51:33 2639712 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You are claiming there are not racist intentions behind the sudden love flying of our flag. So there's not much point debating it is there? There were no flags being randomly put up 5 years ago. The sudden love of our flag is quite a coincidence." It think the west in general would do well to properly define the term racism before throwing it around willy nilly. Is there a large cohort of people in Ireland who wish ill will upon a particular ethnic group? Discriminatory or distrustful perhaps. Racism is a very serious accusation and not always used in the proper context. Wanting to have a reasonable conversation about immigration is not racist for example. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3961 - 13/10/2025 12:05:56 2639717 Link