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Suprised at 6 considering how physical fermanagh will be. Agree we have a lot of speed. Would nt be suprised if theres posituonal changes
Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 524 - 09/05/2025 17:12:15 2607872 Link 0 |
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There is no chance the team lines out like that. It's Joe keeping everyone guessing. Same way Tom Mulally's hurling teams are always different than named.
CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 859 - 10/05/2025 13:46:33 2608015 Link 0 |
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Fair point
Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 524 - 10/05/2025 14:51:47 2608026 Link 0 |
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Where to start with that performance today?! Slow, lethargic, poor first touch, never developed a set pattern of play, allowed kildare the freedom of the park. All things you'd never associate with the carlow hurlers over the years. Kerry game probably didn't help as it was almost like a training match. Going to have to regroup for the westmeath game and not look beyond that. They're good enough to bounce back but will need a reaction after today. Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 119 - 10/05/2025 16:07:54 2608052 Link 0 |
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Yeah very disappointing performance. Not like them but they started slow and Kildare were ferocious and to be fair were the sharper team all through. Even when we pulled it back level with 10 to go I wasn't confident and Kildare just pulled away with the wind behind them. Regarding pattern of play I think we did have a pattern in the first half but it was to simply pump high balls into our danger men in the full forward line but they were going in right of top not diagonally and Kildare full back line were cleaning up and caught way more balls than our lads. Second half with the wind holding balls up it was a bit better but we still couldn't really get for goals. It was disappointing that in the first half especially there was no change to just landing balls in when it was obvious after 15 mins this wasn't working. It meant two of our best players weren't getting in the game and could have been better used out the field where they could land points with a bit more space. No margin for error now. We have to win in mullingar next week which might be a good thing to go there having to win just as Kildare had to today. Then it'll be Leix at home and they might already be in the final by then so will hardly risk a full team … unless the opposite to Offaly a couple of years ago they would prefer not to play Carlow in the final so might try take us out in the last group game. Depends on how Leix get in v Kildare next weekend. Kildare are now right in it but I just can't see them winning in Portlaoise. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1564 - 10/05/2025 16:50:35 2608064 Link 0 |
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May well be right we'll know tomorrow anyway. But by my count there's three backs named in the team. The way the new game has developed that's now probably enough as everyone else outfield on a team is up and down the field getting into forward positions or are permanently located in the forwards anyway so three natural backs is now enough.
Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1564 - 10/05/2025 17:20:00 2608086 Link 0 |
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Very disappointing today. You knew after 5 minutes we weren't up for the game as much as Kildare. hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1841 - 10/05/2025 17:33:56 2608095 Link 0 |
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I was worried about this game all week. Kerry offered nothing the last day & I'm wondering if we read too much into the manner of victory. Kildare were the better team & were far hungrier than Carlow. We have to beat both Westmeath & Laois to make the final now. Even if Kildare lose to laois they will beat Down & end up on 6 points. If we beat Westmeath but lose to Laois we also end up on 6 points but Kildare will pip us on the head to head. 2 massive games coming up for us. If a fully focused Carlow turned up today we wouldn't be in this position. carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 262 - 10/05/2025 19:16:05 2608137 Link 0 |
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Have put themselves into a difficult position from here in. A win today would have as good as seen them in the final. ITSCHOLAR (Carlow) - Posts: 313 - 10/05/2025 20:23:21 2608168 Link 0 |
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100% correct. I couldn't figure out conceding the Kildare puc outs either. They were making hay out of it early doors and were left completely unfettered to work the ball up on a short passing game. Your full forwards match up on them to cut out that option and make them go longer. It made no sense to me. That's drilled in at underage. A bit like we'll worry about our own game and let them worry about ours… we didn't react though. Matches and game plans are surely fluid. We were well off colour today and Kildare probably played to their best. Our own Puc out strategy was poor too - lads will know themselves, but we sent it time and again where it wasn't been won, or working out. I dunno, there was probably a good drop of complacency today too. Furlong was very poor, but that's not an overall excuse. He killed momentum though at critical phases for me. Chris Nolan got dangerously sandwiched too once and he did nothing. I wouldn't be into calling people out and won't, but generally our touch and a lot of layoffs were poor. Up against it now. A full tilt Carlow would beat a full tilt Kildare all day long, in my view, but now we're behind them on the head to head, with probably our two most difficult assignments remaining. Mullingar and Laois. Returning to the general momentum in that match though - I've yet to see a ball thrown in on the 21 for a quick Puc out in a Liam McCarthy match. Anyone else? That carry on was a bit like a bouncer on the door back in the day. I'd live another hop off Kildare! Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 534 - 10/05/2025 20:50:41 2608181 Link 0 |
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Catastrophic result today. Feels like the end of an era. Unless we somehow turn it around and win our last two matches. Not much else to say.
CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 859 - 10/05/2025 21:15:41 2608197 Link 0 |
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Have to agree with you re the ref. I don't want to say he cost us as ultimately we were way off the pace and touch necessary today and Kildare were well worth their win. But some of the decisions were atrocious and the carry on of him re our pick outs was plain ridiculous even more so when he let Kildare do the exact same thing because I watched out for it after he pulled Brian up for it the first time but their keeper did it as well and yet he pulled Brian up twice more!! Crazy. While watching the Kildare puck outs I saw he also let the Kildare keeper puck out, with the wind behind him, from about a foot short of the football penalty spot!! I'd love to see the stats on frees awarded. It must have been at least 2 to 1 in favour of Kildare and yet it was Kildare who, credit to them, were far more aggressive. Saying that our lads were not at the pace of it so were late arriving some of the time but there's no doubt Kildare got their frees a lot easier. I also noticed the Kildare sideline were constantly in the refs ear, calling loudly and in numbers for absolutely everything. I don't advocate for that but, in comparison, our sideline are, and not just today, very very quiet. Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1564 - 10/05/2025 21:54:33 2608215 Link 0 |
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Agree totally about the ref. Unfortunately nothing can be done about it now. I think we're seeing the decline of this group of great lads. Think they've been on the road too long and it showed today. They looked like a very tired team and were running on empty today.
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 345 - 10/05/2025 22:23:26 2608233 Link 0 |
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On the puck out situation, I went through the rule book after the game and couldn't find the justification for awarding a throw in for taking a puck out too quickly. The referee can only do it where the puck out is taken from outside the small rectangle. hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1841 - 11/05/2025 01:07:02 2608278 Link 0 |
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In the past, we had maybe 10 county games a year-stretched from October to June or July. Now the lads have 12-13 games stuffed into February to May or June. That's very hard when you have a shallow panel, backboned by only two clubs. Look at Clare, they won their all Ireland, and it seems they don't have the same hunger this year. Our lads have had the emotional high of winning Joe Mac in 2023, getting a result against Kilkenny in 2024, but still going down. And a hard fought league this year. We can't really rotate. So something eventually has to give. Also, sadly, our underage has downgraded a lot in the last six or seven years. We've gone from putting it up to Wexford and Dublin to struggling against Westmeath and Laois. That's bound to tell eventually CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 859 - 11/05/2025 01:29:25 2608279 Link 0 |
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We will know the answer to that very soon. We have had bad displays before and bounced back, league final against laois and wexford in shc. It is worrying that we drew level and still ould nt push on
Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 524 - 11/05/2025 08:26:03 2608310 Link 0 |
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On another note a lot of people go on about how poorly the hurlers are supported which is true. Brendan Hennessey regularly brings it up in commentary. The draw for the jerseys was done at half time again yesterday but very few kids there, Why?? Well when our own county board fix a full round of u12 football fixtures across the county at the same time as our hurlers are playing is mind boggling. The option of going to support carlow is taken away from kids, parents, coaches club officials etc. We really don't help ourselves. The games could have been played earlier or later in the day. Rant over. Still down after yesterday's result carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 262 - 11/05/2025 10:27:48 2608355 Link 0 |
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Fair point but I think the clubs have to take some responsibility. Those U12 games are always fixed for Saturday afternoons. Based on the website, Mt Leinster Rangers changed their games to late afternoon / evening likely due to the Joe McDonagh game. Nothing stopping other clubs doing something similar.
hurlingguru (Carlow) - Posts: 1841 - 11/05/2025 11:57:23 2608390 Link 0 |
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Regarding the poor support, I've been going to Carlow matches for years from playing Clare and wexford to Derry or London. Attendances have always been poor. I hurled years ago with plenty of lads that still live local and have never seen any of them attend matches let alone bring their children. It's a shame as our hurlers have done us proud over the years and continue to do us proud with such a small group. Anyway I'll keep going regardless of opposition or whichever level we find ourselves. Unusedsub (Carlow) - Posts: 119 - 11/05/2025 13:06:40 2608403 Link 1 |
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Brilliant win for Carlow - most people would have had Fermanagh as a banker in Brewster Park. saorkick (Dublin) - Posts: 18 - 11/05/2025 15:39:25 2608442 Link 0 |