Replying To Commodore:  "I agree that Ryan has put in solid league performances, but I think the key problem for him is when we are up against a top 2 or 3 team in Championship, like a Kerry or Galway. We need a starting 15 that can each individually take on and beat their man over and over during the match, and I don't think Ryan has the gears to do that anymore.

He is a quality player, safe hands, I think he is the type of presence we need to bring in the last 10-15 minutes of the match when teams are tired. But If you pick any player in the Kerry starting lineup, who could he take on and beat repeatedly? I can't see many.

Murphy is similar, if he is regularly starting, opposition teams can usually prep a man marker for him. But if you spring him off the bench in the last 15 - 20 minutes, the opposition will usually have to readjust in order to tackle him, as he is a very different type of threat than Oisin Gallen, Jamie Brennan or Conor O'Donnell. The might anticipate him being a sub, but it still requires a shake up and that can work for us."