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Replying To Ross1: "When and where is the minor semi?" Next weekend, day and venue not confirmed yet D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 15/06/2025 15:47:22 2617740 Link
Replying To imformed: "I'd wholeheartedly agree with you in thanking all these players, mgmt team and officials who were involved with Roscommon this year. It's well known that things haven't been right this season between the mgmt team and the players. Big decisions will have to be made to get this team moving in the right direction again. Some players may retire or step away and they are well entitled to do so, thank you all again for your efforts in playing this amateur game that requires professional commitment. There seems to be no way back for this mgmt team, and every effort should be put in place to a get a Division 1 standard coaching setup for next year, there are many top class coaches within and outside the county that would love a crack at managing this set of players. The county board need start working on this straight away." A really poor season. Went from being competitive against Div 1 teams to now struggling against Div 2 teams. So much uncertainty and negativity to our attacking play it seems to have eroded our forwards confidence. Looking at Down and Monaghan today couldn't be more different to how we play, much more fluid and better coached. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 15/06/2025 16:35:30 2617755 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "A really poor season. Went from being competitive against Div 1 teams to now struggling against Div 2 teams. So much uncertainty and negativity to our attacking play it seems to have eroded our forwards confidence. Looking at Down and Monaghan today couldn't be more different to how we play, much more fluid and better coached." But the fact he was changing his coaches every year doesn't help. I hope the decision is made fast and get new manager in ASAP. Even just watching the two games today and the difference is crazy in every way. They attack and defend with such intensity. Hopefully the minors can give us something next weekend because right now our seniors aren't going anywhere for a while dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1268 - 15/06/2025 18:13:33 2617795 Link
Not for the first time shooting efficiency was the big difference from losing to two points to winning by a few points to spare. Cork was out of juice in that match yesterday with 20 minutes to play they were their to be beat, Roscommon outscored Cork 0-6 to 0-2 and if shooting efficiency was better Roscommon would have scored about 1-10 in that period. Probably for the best as unlikely to beat Down,Donegal or Dublin away next week. New manager sure to be place for 2026 will be be local or another outside manage will he be given time or instant 1st year success will be demanded? Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3655 - 15/06/2025 18:50:06 2617806 Link
Replying To dave1988: "But the fact he was changing his coaches every year doesn't help. I hope the decision is made fast and get new manager in ASAP. Even just watching the two games today and the difference is crazy in every way. They attack and defend with such intensity. Hopefully the minors can give us something next weekend because right now our seniors aren't going anywhere for a while" Yep. Left it till we were 6 points down to start playing more direct as well. Hopefully lessons learned from when Anthony Cunningham stood aside, can't be looking for a manager in winter. If you are appointing someone with very little experience at that level you are better off going with a county man and get good coaches in to help. At least if he's learning on the job it can have long term benefits. If you are looking outside the county you probably should be getting a Micky Harte type who can bring the team up a level. But that is very expensive. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 15/06/2025 19:29:40 2617826 Link
Heard Davey say now not the time to decide future will discuss in next few week. I wish him well but board should be working on a replacement and have in place for club championship . Of the 8 teams in Div2, 6 are still in the championship . Let be honest if we did not get Monaghan, Cork , Down and Louth early on we could be very well looking at Div 3 next year. While Down are going down there performance today was of an improved team. . To be honest we would get it hard to beat Westmeath right now I think the move after the Kerry game was for an interim to step in for Davey. We play to slow and with no aggressiveness. Yes good forwards but there is no method to the style of play. Average team are able to defend against us. The amount of unforced turnovers is a reflection of the Training taken place Rossgaa47 (Roscommon) - Posts: 12 - 15/06/2025 19:37:39 2617834 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "Not for the first time shooting efficiency was the big difference from losing to two points to winning by a few points to spare. Cork was out of juice in that match yesterday with 20 minutes to play they were their to be beat, Roscommon outscored Cork 0-6 to 0-2 and if shooting efficiency was better Roscommon would have scored about 1-10 in that period. Probably for the best as unlikely to beat Down,Donegal or Dublin away next week. New manager sure to be place for 2026 will be be local or another outside manage will he be given time or instant 1st year success will be demanded?" Not surprising our scoring efficiency is poor. A lot of our attacking play looks so laboured and it feels like our players second guess themselves. We don't use counter attacks to our advantage most of the time, first instinct is to turn back and slow up the play. Very little heads up football or fluidity. It is a blessing we didn't get that 2 pointer at the end considering who we'd play next week. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 15/06/2025 19:54:08 2617845 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "Not surprising our scoring efficiency is poor. A lot of our attacking play looks so laboured and it feels like our players second guess themselves. We don't use counter attacks to our advantage most of the time, first instinct is to turn back and slow up the play. Very little heads up football or fluidity. It is a blessing we didn't get that 2 pointer at the end considering who we'd play next week." Watched Limerick v Wexford and they wracked up 4-21 and left 2 more goals behind with some great attacking play. Surely our forwards are better no reason we shouldn't be doing that at least or is there a big difference in levels rossie4sam (Roscommon) - Posts: 15 - 15/06/2025 20:01:17 2617854 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "Yep. Left it till we were 6 points down to start playing more direct as well. Hopefully lessons learned from when Anthony Cunningham stood aside, can't be looking for a manager in winter. If you are appointing someone with very little experience at that level you are better off going with a county man and get good coaches in to help. At least if he's learning on the job it can have long term benefits. If you are looking outside the county you probably should be getting a Micky Harte type who can bring the team up a level. But that is very expensive." And a short term stop gap really D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 15/06/2025 20:23:47 2617868 Link
Replying To D.Hyde: "And a short term stop gap really" Who would ya think could make the step up in the county? Too soon for Cian Smith? Rogers? Andy Moran seems to have been a brilliant addition as a coach for Monaghan. You'd need a coach like that involved. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 15/06/2025 22:29:16 2617940 Link
Replying To FullOfPorter: "Who would ya think could make the step up in the county? Too soon for Cian Smith? Rogers? Andy Moran seems to have been a brilliant addition as a coach for Monaghan. You'd need a coach like that involved." Fully agree. The coaching team is as important to get right as the manager. Need top class coaches involved, and a coaching team in place for the duration of the managers stay. Not like the last 3 years! Cian O Neill, Kevin Walsh, Stephen Rochford, Mickey Graham etc are all coaches in county set ups who have had experience as managers in their own right. They are the kind of men you need alongside a good manager. I don't think Cian Smith is the right choice at this stage. I don't know who in the county would be? D.Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 15/06/2025 23:42:12 2617982 Link
A lot of what we feared came to pass on Saturday. Some awful shooting, decision making. The real damning part for me was with 12 mins to go we seemed to let Cork just walk through us for 2/3 scores, to give them breathing room. Then we get it back to 2 points but the damage was already done. New management and coaches definitely needed. Also, there may be some more notable names leaving the panel for 2026 going by some of the whispers around the last few weeks, hopefully not but a new coach and management panel might drive on some of the younger players. Even a win would have papered over the cracks - there is no way we would have beaten Down, Donegal or Dublin. A season to forget about unfortunately. Time to look forward to hopefully a competitive club championship. Rossfan93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 74 - 16/06/2025 09:10:55 2618051 Link
Replying To Rossfan93: "A lot of what we feared came to pass on Saturday. Some awful shooting, decision making. The real damning part for me was with 12 mins to go we seemed to let Cork just walk through us for 2/3 scores, to give them breathing room. Then we get it back to 2 points but the damage was already done. New management and coaches definitely needed. Also, there may be some more notable names leaving the panel for 2026 going by some of the whispers around the last few weeks, hopefully not but a new coach and management panel might drive on some of the younger players. Even a win would have papered over the cracks - there is no way we would have beaten Down, Donegal or Dublin. A season to forget about unfortunately. Time to look forward to hopefully a competitive club championship." Brids, Pearses, Boyle and Ros Gaels the main candidates. You'd hope a new county management might convince the "senior citizens" on the squad to give it another year. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2416 - 16/06/2025 10:04:58 2618091 Link
It is absolutely sickening to not be part of the draw this morning and not in the discussion for next weeks games but we don't deserve to be we have not played well for a full 35 let alone a full 70 all year IMO, going back to down Monaghan Louth and Cork in the league we played okay in spells and as the year went on all these teams improved and we got even worse and 2 of them bet us after the league wins. Something was not right and that was clear to see early on. The manager should be already gone. It is such a shame that prime years of some of our best players were wasted with him in charge. I will admit a lot of players badly out of form this year and nothing seemed to click but the management have to take the blame, that panel of players should be getting promoted to div 2 a lot handier then we did and we should be at least having a right crack at Mayo / Galway in Connacht and in the mix to get to a quarter final, I don't think these expectations are too far fetched. Rossie2020 (Roscommon) - Posts: 197 - 16/06/2025 10:06:54 2618093 Link
Replying To Rossie2020: "It is absolutely sickening to not be part of the draw this morning and not in the discussion for next weeks games but we don't deserve to be we have not played well for a full 35 let alone a full 70 all year IMO, going back to down Monaghan Louth and Cork in the league we played okay in spells and as the year went on all these teams improved and we got even worse and 2 of them bet us after the league wins. Something was not right and that was clear to see early on. The manager should be already gone. It is such a shame that prime years of some of our best players were wasted with him in charge. I will admit a lot of players badly out of form this year and nothing seemed to click but the management have to take the blame, that panel of players should be getting promoted to div 2 a lot handier then we did and we should be at least having a right crack at Mayo / Galway in Connacht and in the mix to get to a quarter final, I don't think these expectations are too far fetched." Yea it's fairly grim, no more championship excitement for the summer. Something clearly not right. Yet nearly every player committed to playing this year so not sure what happened. We should be modelling ourselves on Monaghan but we are in very different places at the moment. They are now in a QF and will be confident they will give whoever they meet a good rattle. Westmeath are probably the only Division 2 team that haven't passed us out now. In hindsight it is a complete waste getting an inexperienced outside manager and gambling on them learning on the job. Add in the revolving door of coaches and it's back to square one again. FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 193 - 16/06/2025 10:34:29 2618111 Link
Replying To Rossie2020: "It is absolutely sickening to not be part of the draw this morning and not in the discussion for next weeks games but we don't deserve to be we have not played well for a full 35 let alone a full 70 all year IMO, going back to down Monaghan Louth and Cork in the league we played okay in spells and as the year went on all these teams improved and we got even worse and 2 of them bet us after the league wins. Something was not right and that was clear to see early on. The manager should be already gone. It is such a shame that prime years of some of our best players were wasted with him in charge. I will admit a lot of players badly out of form this year and nothing seemed to click but the management have to take the blame, that panel of players should be getting promoted to div 2 a lot handier then we did and we should be at least having a right crack at Mayo / Galway in Connacht and in the mix to get to a quarter final, I don't think these expectations are too far fetched." Could have been Dublin in Croker next weekend. With Dublin far from world beaters, a missed opportunity Jack L (None) - Posts: 3157 - 16/06/2025 11:01:41 2618136 Link
Replying To D.Hyde: "Fully agree. The coaching team is as important to get right as the manager. Need top class coaches involved, and a coaching team in place for the duration of the managers stay. Not like the last 3 years! Cian O Neill, Kevin Walsh, Stephen Rochford, Mickey Graham etc are all coaches in county set ups who have had experience as managers in their own right. They are the kind of men you need alongside a good manager. I don't think Cian Smith is the right choice at this stage. I don't know who in the county would be?" Eoin Joey Jordan is the man to lead Roscommon. Coached Moate, Portlaoise, Rhode and Longford Slashers to county titles. Will have Micheal McDermott, Derek Duggan, Enda Dunican and Tommy Bermingham on his backroom team. kerry4sam25 (Kerry) - Posts: 39 - 16/06/2025 11:10:46 2618145 Link
Replying To Jack L: "Could have been Dublin in Croker next weekend. With Dublin far from world beaters, a missed opportunity" Would you stop. Dublin would beat us handy. No missed opportunity. The only game we won in this year's championship is London so we are where we deserve to be. We are way off the likes of Kerry Galway Donegal Dublin and Armagh. dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1268 - 16/06/2025 11:37:57 2618164 Link
Replying To Jack L: "Could have been Dublin in Croker next weekend. With Dublin far from world beaters, a missed opportunity" Missed opportunity. Ye came last in your group. Taypot (Sligo) - Posts: 150 - 16/06/2025 11:50:19 2618173 Link
Replying To dave1988: "Would you stop. Dublin would beat us handy. No missed opportunity. The only game we won in this year's championship is London so we are where we deserve to be. We are way off the likes of Kerry Galway Donegal Dublin and Armagh." Yes sadly. We are playing a different sport than those 5. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2416 - 16/06/2025 12:22:30 2618196 Link