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Great heart and determination coming from 9 points down to a dodgy decision preventing going to extra time. Thanks to the management and young players for their hard work and gritty displays. McGuinness' goals things of beauty. Now for a plan towards Senior for those finished at the grade. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2275 - 01/05/2025 11:17:09 2605969 Link 0 |
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The ref was marking the goal into his note book before he was alerted over by his umpires. Given all he gave during the game Mayo can thank their lucky stars they got that dubious call to go their way. What you mean never a good indication? Only a few years ago Sligo had loads same starters on two connacht winning teams. So long as injuries don't happen Roscommon should be there or thereabouts for Connacht U20 again next year. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3599 - 01/05/2025 11:48:41 2605986 Link 0 |
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Considering the betting odds that was some performance from the under 20's last night. Is that the last match this team will play in the competition or is there a back-door last 8 system, where the provincial winners in one province play the losers in another? If that is the system the team will learn an awful lot from last night particularly around retaining possession. Donegal and Tyrone could only manage 1-9 each last night in normal time (we scored 4-8) before the scoring rate improved in extra time. Certainly there will be several of those players (Carthy brothers etc etc ) who are capable of making the step up to senior in a couple/few years if they stick with it. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 723 - 01/05/2025 12:22:54 2606002 Link 0 |
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No back door in U20. I don't take much comfort from the fact that it was a thriller and a goal fest. There was a Connacht title there to be won and we lost it. Equally I don't go with talk of players underage next year. A lot changes in a year. Roscommon had two bad wides after our fourth goal when we had momentum. I felt that was crucial. The disallowing of the injury time goal was highly questionable. It's the sort of decision bigger counties get against smaller counties. If Mayo were two points down in injury time and scored that goal, it would not have been disallowed in my view. Incidentally, reading other gaa sites, a lot of people don't seem to understand the square ball rule and how it changed a few years ago. Best of luck to our minors in a couple of weeks. Hope we don't fall short again like last night.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2382 - 01/05/2025 12:54:22 2606008 Link 1 |
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"Mayo they look a very good team with some serious athletes" There are some serious footballers. I've noticed this comment from quite a few posters in recent times describing Mayo as athletes. It's football not athletics. Everyone will look at their own house but I thought the loss of Eoin McGreal was huge and Mayo full back line was all over the shop. Mayo the better team in my opinion but fair dues to Roscommon some fine players coming through and could have won last night. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11547 - 01/05/2025 15:38:06 2606064 Link 0 |
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Yes I know it's football but having several lads who can run and jump is a bit of an advantage. Our lads looked smaller in most areas and at this age evey advantage counts.
Rossieforever (Roscommon) - Posts: 102 - 01/05/2025 16:42:54 2606082 Link 0 |
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A lot of Mayo fans were saying the same about this particular team last year…it's amazing what 12 months can do in terms of s&c and growth at this level. I've been told management were targeting year 2 (this year) so let's see but the point being most of them are good footballers and unusually we have a Mayo team with multiple accurate forwards. I don't know how many of the Roscommon team are u20 next year but I'd guess you'll be much better if they are and may go a step further. Pity there is no quarter finals for the runners up like at minor level. All the best going forward. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11547 - 01/05/2025 17:42:25 2606103 Link 0 |
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Don't know if it was a goal or not based on the camera angle. Thought there might have been an additional angle from social media but couldn't find one. The tg4 footage you certainly cannot use as proof of an unfair call. Thought Mayo were the better team overall but was great and heartening to see a performance of that standard from the team. Management and squad are a credit. Hard luck Returnee (Roscommon) - Posts: 1 - 01/05/2025 22:24:23 2606147 Link 0 |
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You weren't lacking in conditioning in the draw against us in Hyde Park last year. The real eye opener in S&C for us was Tyrone in the semi final they were more like U23 team than U20. Ten of our starting team last night are U20 again in 2026 as are two of the subs brought on
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4025 - 01/05/2025 22:38:38 2606151 Link 0 |
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Think 10 of the 15 starters are eligible next year.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2275 - 01/05/2025 23:30:40 2606171 Link 0 |
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I don't really see the scheduling as an advantage to Mayo. Roscommon were playing 1 game per week, absolutely no issue for a group of teenagers. You could argue it was a disadvantage for the Mayo lads having two weeks to think about a final where they were very warm favourites to win. 6 of the Mayo starting team are underage next year FYI. MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 451 - 02/05/2025 06:37:38 2606178 Link 0 |
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I haven't seen conclusive footage either. However the ball was kicked in from open play by Roscommon and the rule is was Kilcline in the box at the time of the kick. Seems far more likely that he ran in as the ball came in. He's a tall lad who needed a run to get the elevation needed to fist the goal. I'd say that the ref wasn't sure either. The goal should have stood unless the officials were sure it was a square ball. A number of goals like this were scored in the senior league and championship and none of them were disallowed. The ref's call in the U20 match came at such a crucial time. It effectively decided the winner. The ref had to be sure to disallow that goal and I can't see how he could have been sure. Separately, I have no doubt whatsoever that if Mayo were two points down in injury time and scored that goal, the goal would have stood.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2382 - 02/05/2025 09:14:17 2606194 Link 1 |
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Of course it would . Seemed to be all down to the Umpire who made no move to lift the green flag. Too late now but someone needs to tell him and the Ref that the square ball rule was changed 10 or 15 years ago . All that said however the 1-7 conceded without reply in the 1st half was our undoing. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2275 - 02/05/2025 11:27:53 2606234 Link 1 |
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Disagree. Rest and recovery between games is important for senior teams never mind teens who aren't at their conditioning level. Connacht GAA and HQ has the whole U20 championship far too rushed. Midweek matches doesn't suit players who are in college or studying for exams either.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3599 - 02/05/2025 13:27:58 2606283 Link 3 |
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Teens who are playing against other teens in 60 minute games.. it was blatantly obvious Roscommon were not tired in the last few minutes. No reason they would be either.
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 451 - 02/05/2025 13:53:16 2606293 Link 0 |
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To even correct myself it was 9. Was 10 in previous games but Rob Heneghan returned to the starting team and is overage now. Goal disallowed in injury time that would have put us in front I had a prefect view of the incident and old or new square ball rule both Kilcline and Niall Heneghan ran into the square so it was perfectly fine. I thought some foul was perhaps the reason it was disallowed? but management was told after the game it was given as square ball, a very frustrating way for any match to end after monstrous effort put in. One interesting stat on the game was kick outs whereby both did better on the opposition kick outs than their own. Roscommon kick outs won 10 from 22 and Mayo 5 from 18. Unfortunately for us and it was the same from round 1 game in MacHale Park a lot of Mayo scores came from our kick outs. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4025 - 02/05/2025 14:06:08 2606297 Link 3 |
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That's what made Roscommon pushing hot favourties Mayo to the pin of their collar and should have been leading in added time all the more impressive.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3599 - 02/05/2025 14:07:47 2606298 Link 2 |
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What made it all the more impressive??
MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 451 - 02/05/2025 15:07:27 2606310 Link 0 |
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Ridiculous to think that the referee and umpires did not know the not-so-new square ball rule. You would think that top officials would be appointed for Connacht finals after all the effort put in by teams, management, sponsors, schools, families over many years to develop young players to this stage. In reality that was probably the biggest match that some of those players will ever play in their lives. If the officials did happen to know the rule, then the decision is even worse and they should never get a game again. letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 723 - 02/05/2025 15:30:06 2606311 Link 0 |