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Donaghy to be announced next week?!
ahsure. (Galway) - Posts: 1750 - 06/09/2025 17:31:44
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Replying To ahsure.: "Donaghy to be announced next week?!" There's no point in bringing in Donaghy or any other high-profile individual if they're not going to be listened to. We already have a high-profile figure from Corofin in the backroom team, and apparently his input is as limited as everyone else's. He's not going to bring in many, if any, new players either, his championship team is already picked, and he'll just focus on getting those players fit. Along the way he'll give token games to others so he can say they had their chance, but when championship comes around it will be the same players in the same positions. In his defence, there aren't many standing out in the championship so far to change that.
Yvrjd (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 07/09/2025 09:20:10
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Replying To togoutlads: "Yes, I see that alright re Galway United being let into Pearse Stadium. I wonder can we now ask United to kindly stop our underage talent involved in their soccer academy from being daftly prohibited from playing football and hurling for their clubs. Reminding them also to stop filling parents and kids in that academy with talk of professional soccer careers, when the stats are that just 3% or even English Premier league clubs' academy players make it to top flight pro level and only 7% of those lads get a renewed contract after their teen years contract! Pipe dreams being sold and club GAA years sadly being missed out on. It's nonsense." Wonder if Mountain South will become a joint venture with Galway United as Paul Bellew mentioned that big training facilities being shared will become the norm going forward.Has this been factored into the decision to allow Pearse Stadium to be used?
Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 553 - 07/09/2025 10:03:59
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Replying To Yvrjd: "There's no point in bringing in Donaghy or any other high-profile individual if they're not going to be listened to. We already have a high-profile figure from Corofin in the backroom team, and apparently his input is as limited as everyone else's. He's not going to bring in many, if any, new players either, his championship team is already picked, and he'll just focus on getting those players fit. Along the way he'll give token games to others so he can say they had their chance, but when championship comes around it will be the same players in the same positions. In his defence, there aren't many standing out in the championship so far to change that." Once apparently is in post it means you haven't a clue what sort of input he has or hasn't.
In fairness to Joyce since 22 brought Maher Darcy in from cold when looked like IC careers passed them by.
Thompson thrown in last year and brought hernon back in 2024 when away for first half of year.
I'd expect to see likes of Ryan Roche Colm Costello given a chance to impress next year.
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1675 - 07/09/2025 10:13:48
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Replying To Yvrjd: "There's no point in bringing in Donaghy or any other high-profile individual if they're not going to be listened to. We already have a high-profile figure from Corofin in the backroom team, and apparently his input is as limited as everyone else's. He's not going to bring in many, if any, new players either, his championship team is already picked, and he'll just focus on getting those players fit. Along the way he'll give token games to others so he can say they had their chance, but when championship comes around it will be the same players in the same positions. In his defence, there aren't many standing out in the championship so far to change that." Absolutely - Definition of madness " Doing the same thing and expecting a different result" .
galwaygoal (Galway) - Posts: 174 - 07/09/2025 12:08:44
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On balance bringing in Mr Donaghy can only help Galway in my view. He is a winner. If he is listened too, as is stated above.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2658 - 08/09/2025 13:23:00
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I think Galway GAA should ask both Connacht Rugby and Galway Utd for the occasional use of their training facilities. And they should definitely also ask the coaching staff for some tips too. In return offer the Coaching staff free tickets to Galway GAA matches and possibly Croke park.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2658 - 08/09/2025 13:25:52
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I think Joyce has hopefully learned enough now to see that he will have to really listen to his advisors, his backroom, because if he doesn't, he'll get the same results again at the AI business end of the season.
Even in professional codes, some of the very greatest managers and head coaches in their respective sports have written about and been quoted about accepting that they didn't have all the answers, that they had to leave the ego at the gate and really listen to trusted advisors and adapt their game.
Alex Ferguson did it multiple times as he adapted over 26 years at Man Utd, listening to and adapting their game over time with Kidd, McClaren, Quieroz and Meulensteen. Ferguson credits them all with massive impact on how they adapted over time. He said he wanted them to consistently challenge him and he actively encouraged it.
Same with Phil Jackson, the most successful NBA coach of all time with 11 NBA titles with the Bulls and Lakers. He brought in Tex Winter to transform both teams offense - the triangle offense - that Donaghy is very aware of!
Same with Bill Belichick at the New England Patriots, the most successful NFL coach of all time in terms of Super Bowl wins. He brought in Josh McDaniels and Ernie Adams into his backroom to transform them. He said of his relationship with his coaching staff "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room."
There are countless more examples - very notably Jack O'Connor all year with Kerry, openly taking counsel on the sideline during games with Cian O'Neill. He was listening and adapting. PJ needs to take note from guys that know what they're talking about. Adapt and we can get there.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1099 - 08/09/2025 17:03:04
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Replying To togoutlads: "I think Joyce has hopefully learned enough now to see that he will have to really listen to his advisors, his backroom, because if he doesn't, he'll get the same results again at the AI business end of the season.
Even in professional codes, some of the very greatest managers and head coaches in their respective sports have written about and been quoted about accepting that they didn't have all the answers, that they had to leave the ego at the gate and really listen to trusted advisors and adapt their game.
Alex Ferguson did it multiple times as he adapted over 26 years at Man Utd, listening to and adapting their game over time with Kidd, McClaren, Quieroz and Meulensteen. Ferguson credits them all with massive impact on how they adapted over time. He said he wanted them to consistently challenge him and he actively encouraged it.
Same with Phil Jackson, the most successful NBA coach of all time with 11 NBA titles with the Bulls and Lakers. He brought in Tex Winter to transform both teams offense - the triangle offense - that Donaghy is very aware of!
Same with Bill Belichick at the New England Patriots, the most successful NFL coach of all time in terms of Super Bowl wins. He brought in Josh McDaniels and Ernie Adams into his backroom to transform them. He said of his relationship with his coaching staff "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room."
There are countless more examples - very notably Jack O'Connor all year with Kerry, openly taking counsel on the sideline during games with Cian O'Neill. He was listening and adapting. PJ needs to take note from guys that know what they're talking about. Adapt and we can get there." The famous triangle offense of Jordan, Pippen and Donaghy.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2526 - 08/09/2025 21:04:32
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Replying To togoutlads: "I think Joyce has hopefully learned enough now to see that he will have to really listen to his advisors, his backroom, because if he doesn't, he'll get the same results again at the AI business end of the season.
Even in professional codes, some of the very greatest managers and head coaches in their respective sports have written about and been quoted about accepting that they didn't have all the answers, that they had to leave the ego at the gate and really listen to trusted advisors and adapt their game.
Alex Ferguson did it multiple times as he adapted over 26 years at Man Utd, listening to and adapting their game over time with Kidd, McClaren, Quieroz and Meulensteen. Ferguson credits them all with massive impact on how they adapted over time. He said he wanted them to consistently challenge him and he actively encouraged it.
Same with Phil Jackson, the most successful NBA coach of all time with 11 NBA titles with the Bulls and Lakers. He brought in Tex Winter to transform both teams offense - the triangle offense - that Donaghy is very aware of!
Same with Bill Belichick at the New England Patriots, the most successful NFL coach of all time in terms of Super Bowl wins. He brought in Josh McDaniels and Ernie Adams into his backroom to transform them. He said of his relationship with his coaching staff "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room."
There are countless more examples - very notably Jack O'Connor all year with Kerry, openly taking counsel on the sideline during games with Cian O'Neill. He was listening and adapting. PJ needs to take note from guys that know what they're talking about. Adapt and we can get there." Fergie, Belichick, Phil Jackson. PJ in Hall of Fame company here already, and that's without even seeking council apparently, to say nothing of the missing titles.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4407 - 08/09/2025 21:39:16
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Fergie, Belichick, Phil Jackson. PJ in Hall of Fame company here already, and that's without even seeking council apparently, to say nothing of the missing titles." Ok fair enough but who would you prefer in his place that is willing and available to take the job? I'm more of a hurling person so maybe I'm missing something. Apologies if I read you wrong.
SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 15 - 08/09/2025 22:27:03
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Add something of value, lads. Sniping and nothing to say. Come on now! And Pope, I hope you take counsel, not council.
togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 1099 - 09/09/2025 08:20:14
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Replying To togoutlads: "Add something of value, lads. Sniping and nothing to say. Come on now! And Pope, I hope you take counsel, not council." We've all heard plenty stories about to what extent he was listening to various members of his backroom team, but the truth is we don't know unless we were part of it ourselves. I'd say there's some truth to it, and like many things some of the stories have grown legs.
We can all have some obvious criticisms, particularly some key decisions made on the biggest days. 2024 in particular is one which will hurt everyone in Galway football for years to come. We've raked over the coals of that one umpteen times at this stage.
The key things for Galway football are to improve our underage development and ensure there's a flow of talented and prepared young footballers coming through. Joyce did inherit a strong group based on excellent work done underage in prior years. We need to ensure that we're giving ourselves a chance most years.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2526 - 09/09/2025 10:49:56
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Replying To togoutlads: "Add something of value, lads. Sniping and nothing to say. Come on now! And Pope, I hope you take counsel, not council." I used to see PJ taking council from cian oneill on sideline so not sure why you bring up him.
Again like others you have no idea what feedback or advice Joyce is or isn't taking from his back room team
jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1675 - 09/09/2025 11:09:27
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Replying To Yvrjd: "There's no point in bringing in Donaghy or any other high-profile individual if they're not going to be listened to. We already have a high-profile figure from Corofin in the backroom team, and apparently his input is as limited as everyone else's. He's not going to bring in many, if any, new players either, his championship team is already picked, and he'll just focus on getting those players fit. Along the way he'll give token games to others so he can say they had their chance, but when championship comes around it will be the same players in the same positions. In his defence, there aren't many standing out in the championship so far to change that." This is all incorrect
PJ took Walsh, Conroy and McDaid off last year in Derry with the championship on the line. He dropped Walsh for the Connacht final in 2024 and didn't start Conroy or McDaid v Meath. He swapped the goalkeepers on multiple occasions last year. He's taken McGrath and Thompson from underage teams to become regular starters, and brought Maher and Darcy in from the wilderness to become regulars also. Hernon was due to start the 2024 semi final having not been on the panel 7 weeks earlier
The idea that this Galway team is already fixed and that you can't play your way onto it or play your way off it through poor form is nonsense
PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 311 - 11/09/2025 09:36:35
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Replying To PressureKick: "This is all incorrect
PJ took Walsh, Conroy and McDaid off last year in Derry with the championship on the line. He dropped Walsh for the Connacht final in 2024 and didn't start Conroy or McDaid v Meath. He swapped the goalkeepers on multiple occasions last year. He's taken McGrath and Thompson from underage teams to become regular starters, and brought Maher and Darcy in from the wilderness to become regulars also. Hernon was due to start the 2024 semi final having not been on the panel 7 weeks earlier
The idea that this Galway team is already fixed and that you can't play your way onto it or play your way off it through poor form is nonsense" I agree with above but changing goalie mid during champo to only reinstate the previous goalie is madness i.e Gleeson v Meath. I still feel PJ made poor decisions on the biggest days 2022 bringin Eoin Finnerty in final against Kerry to make his champ debut absolute madness. Also replacing a clearly injured Finnerty with a Heaney rather than an inside forward. This shows his lack of trust of an inside forward on subs bench and no Plan B which he should have. He should have planned for an early injury to Finnerty who was carrying a knee injury all year and it was heavily strapped. This may be harsh but these are the calls than IC manager live & die on and these were 2 finals that we lost by 2 & 1 points.
Eire89 (Galway) - Posts: 405 - 11/09/2025 11:17:23
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Could PJ original 3 selectors when first appointed all be stepping away? Divilly has. Michéal O'Domhnaill rumoured to be, Scan the same. Would be a big change
gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 387 - 11/09/2025 14:41:32
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Replying To Eire89: "I agree with above but changing goalie mid during champo to only reinstate the previous goalie is madness i.e Gleeson v Meath. I still feel PJ made poor decisions on the biggest days 2022 bringin Eoin Finnerty in final against Kerry to make his champ debut absolute madness. Also replacing a clearly injured Finnerty with a Heaney rather than an inside forward. This shows his lack of trust of an inside forward on subs bench and no Plan B which he should have. He should have planned for an early injury to Finnerty who was carrying a knee injury all year and it was heavily strapped. This may be harsh but these are the calls than IC manager live & die on and these were 2 finals that we lost by 2 & 1 points." 4 against kerry in 2020 buy ye
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 992 - 11/09/2025 16:16:35
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Replying To Gaaforlife2023: "4 against kerry in 2020 buy ye" 2022. The sour grapes have been turned into a fine wine since then though.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2526 - 12/09/2025 12:07:50
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Replying To gaillimhboy: "Could PJ original 3 selectors when first appointed all be stepping away? Divilly has. Michéal O'Domhnaill rumoured to be, Scan the same. Would be a big change" It would be a great change!! I would have liked Divo to stay though
Jellybaby (Dublin) - Posts: 371 - 12/09/2025 12:37:11
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