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Replying To JimB1991:  "Very different circumstances. Mayo would have won an All Ireland in another era, just beaten by the greatest team of all time.
Galway emerged as surprise All Ireland finalists in two strange years.
Would agree though that Galway didn't bottle it, they were just short on quality to win an All Ireland."
Sure the one they should have been winning Dublin weren't even in the final.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 258 - 20/07/2025 11:21:55    2626610

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Replying To JimB1991:  "Very different circumstances. Mayo would have won an All Ireland in another era, just beaten by the greatest team of all time.
Galway emerged as surprise All Ireland finalists in two strange years.
Would agree though that Galway didn't bottle it, they were just short on quality to win an All Ireland."
No-one knows if we would have won in another era. We lost finals against lesser teams than that Dublin team. Hindsight analysis can only improve us if we learn from past mistakes and improve. We still can't close out tight games. The challenge for new management team.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8179 - 20/07/2025 12:11:49    2626617

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "Sure the one they should have been winning Dublin weren't even in the final."
The at least we are not as bad as Mayo is a very poor benchmark of where we stand. Next year it will be a quarter century since we last brought Sam west so people under 30 can't even remember that. It's time for us to look inward, stop comparing ourselves to the neighbours and start making new history.

not2bad (Galway) - Posts: 114 - 20/07/2025 13:01:52    2626623

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Replying To JimB1991:  "Very different circumstances. Mayo would have won an All Ireland in another era, just beaten by the greatest team of all time.
Galway emerged as surprise All Ireland finalists in two strange years.
Would agree though that Galway didn't bottle it, they were just short on quality to win an All Ireland."
Mayo had got to finals in a few 'strange' years as you call them against Donegal and Tyrone and didn't get the job done either.
As a very loyal Donegal supporter I hope you got a ticket for today. Your passion for your 'home' county has shone through in your posts in the Galway thread.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2433 - 20/07/2025 14:31:41    2626634

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Replying To not2bad:  "The at least we are not as bad as Mayo is a very poor benchmark of where we stand. Next year it will be a quarter century since we last brought Sam west so people under 30 can't even remember that. It's time for us to look inward, stop comparing ourselves to the neighbours and start making new history."
I don't care which county wins at this stage but a Connacht all Ireland is badly needed and can only benefit the surrounding counties. Look at what its done for Ulster. It's created ravenous competition and winning mentality that's filtered down to Monaghan.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 258 - 20/07/2025 16:12:57    2626643

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Mayo had got to finals in a few 'strange' years as you call them against Donegal and Tyrone and didn't get the job done either.
As a very loyal Donegal supporter I hope you got a ticket for today. Your passion for your 'home' county has shone through in your posts in the Galway thread."
How was 2012 a strange year? By that logic one could say 1998 was a strange year with Kildare in a final.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11696 - 20/07/2025 17:50:54    2626680

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Replying To JimB1991:  "Very different circumstances. Mayo would have won an All Ireland in another era, just beaten by the greatest team of all time.
Galway emerged as surprise All Ireland finalists in two strange years.
Would agree though that Galway didn't bottle it, they were just short on quality to win an All Ireland."
Delighted to see Liam Cahill, who is such an honest person and suffered many disappointments along the way, manage Tipp. to AI success today. Imo, the introduction of young talent proved decisive. Very tough on Cork losing 2 finals in a row, and we'd surely have suffered the same fate had we progressed to final, as we're just short on quality at the moment.

I really hope Pj has the sense to pursue a fresh backroom team who can help join up the dots and get this team of individuals to perform as a collective - it's now or never!

AnCrúiscínLán (Galway) - Posts: 105 - 20/07/2025 18:40:50    2626694

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Replying To yew_tree:  "How was 2012 a strange year? By that logic one could say 1998 was a strange year with Kildare in a final."
It wasn't strange at all, hence the quotes. No year is strange, but our 'Donegal' friend seems to be implying that years without the Dubs in the final are strange.
2010 was a surprise with the 4 semi-finalists and the final pairing we had, but there was nothing strange about it.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2433 - 20/07/2025 18:59:57    2626701

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Two weeks out from championship .Any news on challenges over weekend -heard Tuam played Na Fianna . Think they lost but havent heard anything else other than Conor Rhattigan their captain did his cruciate and Brian Mannion a doubt for first game and maybe second game.

fairplay4ever (Galway) - Posts: 446 - 20/07/2025 19:18:46    2626710

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Mayo had got to finals in a few 'strange' years as you call them against Donegal and Tyrone and didn't get the job done either.
As a very loyal Donegal supporter I hope you got a ticket for today. Your passion for your 'home' county has shone through in your posts in the Galway thread."
Get over yourself. How were they strange years ?
You lot are the biggest bottlers ever so it's a bit rich slagging us off tbh .

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 290 - 20/07/2025 19:20:18    2626712

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Replying To S1234:  "Get over yourself. How were they strange years ?
You lot are the biggest bottlers ever so it's a bit rich slagging us off tbh ."
2021 was a Covid year, so along with 2020 would likely have strong credentials in the strangeness stakes.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4329 - 20/07/2025 21:02:13    2626730

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Replying To S1234:  "Get over yourself. How were they strange years ?
You lot are the biggest bottlers ever so it's a bit rich slagging us off tbh ."
We have moved on to our club championships.I advise you go back to Mayo forum and do the same.

Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 529 - 20/07/2025 21:16:06    2626737

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Replying To JimB1991:  "Very different circumstances. Mayo would have won an All Ireland in another era, just beaten by the greatest team of all time.
Galway emerged as surprise All Ireland finalists in two strange years.
Would agree though that Galway didn't bottle it, they were just short on quality to win an All Ireland."
Dublin was there to beaten in a few AI finals yet Mayo found different ways to lose those finals. Strange years is the usual daft remark from you.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 544 - 20/07/2025 21:22:22    2626738

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Replying To S1234:  "Get over yourself. How were they strange years ?
You lot are the biggest bottlers ever so it's a bit rich slagging us off tbh ."
'Us'.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8179 - 20/07/2025 21:39:46    2626744

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Replying To StopTheLights:  "Nobody doubts that he wants to win. Does he have the smarts to?
He has to rent smarts from outside. Cian O Neill, Mickey Graham??
Would Jim Mc Guinness win the All Ireland next year with that Galway panel?
We'd all put money on it!
We have a closing window on a championship team and after watching our performance against Meath, you'd have to concede he wasn't even in the ballpark.
When have we beaten a team out the gate in the last few years?
Every game is a battle in the last 5 minutes. Raising our game for good teams, dropping standards against poorer teams.
Dropping players who were playing well, messing with goalies at the business end of the championship, playing meaningless side to side keep ball v Meath.
What was he at with Sam O Neill?
Starts for 18 minutes, doesn't make the 26 after that.
Great for a young lads attitude and confidence.
We are devastating when we attack at speed. He certainly does not promote that.
2 more years will see the end of Conroy, Comer and Walsh.
Barring some unfortunate injuries, he's never got the best out of them. S&C has to be questioned on Comer and Walsh.
He let an injured Shane Walsh miss free after free in an All Ireland Final that we lost by a point. Not knocking the lad but where was the sideline?
Matthew Tierney was a decent left footed free taker a few years ago.
Why wasn't that maintained?
Enough already."
As an occasional visitor to the Galway forum and a fan of my adopted county, I find StopTheLights's analysis completely spot-on about the current depressing set up with the senior panel. We (Dublin) were lucky to have had 2 brilliant managers (Gilroy and Gavin) when our golden generation came through. They provided a framework for the players to trust their own ability to get the job done during games and were ruthless with their in-game management if this wasn't working out. I truly believe that the talent that has come through in Galway in recent years has been at a similar level to our golden generation. Under different management, I believe that Galway would have won 2 AIs at a minimum and maybe up to 4 in the past 6 years. I actually think that Kevin Walsh did a far better job with the players he had than PJ has done with 'his' squad ("Pádraic Joyce's Galway" as the team are often referred to in the local media).
The stock responses to calls for his replacement seem to be "Who would be better?", "If he just had a fully fit Comer and Walsh" and "Outsiders don't work". This seems to imply that it's better just to carry on regardless with the current setup. PJ will never leave of his own accord. I suspect that he fears if someone more competent came in he could really be shown up for all the flaws that StopTheLights has cogently listed in his/her post. Those possible fears would be well founded. The current squad are THAT good, that Galway may still win an AI under PJ, but it would be won in spite of him (or maybe thanks to a new assistant), rather than due to much/any of his input.

DubSanIarthar (Dublin) - Posts: 21 - 21/07/2025 12:29:20    2626857

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