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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "And when would this mystical knockout competition take place?
Would it be entirely separate from the open draw you mention above?"
If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw]

27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 01/06/2025 09:45:21    2613920

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "It's too different championships, so I guess that he could play with two different county teams in the same year. Galway could sure do with him!"
You're the one who was certain Dublin would beat Galway in Parnell Park! Galway can do without him, the last thing they need is that type of distraction.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 01/06/2025 09:58:39    2613927

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw


27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week."]And the point would be what, exactly?

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 01/06/2025 13:11:56    2613977

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "
Replying To Crashingwaves:  "If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw


27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week."
And the point would be what, exactly?"]I'm surprised you had to ask that question! The main reason as I'm sure you well know is to have an All Ireland competition that is fair and competitive.

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 01/06/2025 13:56:51    2613987

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "
Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "[quote=Crashingwaves:  "If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw


27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week."
And the point would be what, exactly?"]I'm surprised you had to ask that question! The main reason as I'm sure you well know is to have an All Ireland competition that is fair and competitive."]You have no link between the provincials and the All Ireland.

There will be zero interest in your proposal.

That's why I asked you what the point of it was, because there isn't any apparent benefit to anyone

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 01/06/2025 16:01:23    2614022

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Minors exit championship at quarters for the first time since 2007. Question of management to be asked

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 535 - 01/06/2025 16:34:13    2614028

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "Minors exit championship at quarters for the first time since 2007. Question of management to be asked"
No questions for answering. I was in Thurles. They were well beaten and that's as good as they are. Clare were better athletes, better players. No excuses. Next year will be as bad.

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 110 - 01/06/2025 17:09:24    2614055

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "
Replying To Crashingwaves:  "[quote=Stool Pigeon:  "[quote=Crashingwaves:  "If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw


27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week."
And the point would be what, exactly?"]I'm surprised you had to ask that question! The main reason as I'm sure you well know is to have an All Ireland competition that is fair and competitive."]You have no link between the provincials and the All Ireland.

There will be zero interest in your proposal.

That's why I asked you what the point of it was, because there isn't any apparent benefit to anyone"]Are you content with the present system? If not, what's your solution?

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 164 - 01/06/2025 17:58:16    2614077

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "No questions for answering. I was in Thurles. They were well beaten and that's as good as they are. Clare were better athletes, better players. No excuses. Next year will be as bad."
Even when we were poor at senior, we'd generally have a strong underage team, to give us a bit of (usually false) hope. We'd don't even have that anymore. This year must have been one of the worst at underage for Galway in both codes in a very long time. None of our minor or U20 teams really made a dent in either of their championships.
I know there was a lot of clarity provided late last year about the work going on at underage, the partnership with Setanta college, the S&C programs overseen by Des Ryan formerly of Arsenal etc. While I've no doubt people are working hard at this, it doesn't seem to be bearing much fruit. If anything we seem to be regressing. Being well beaten by Clare and Dublin in underage hurling. Losing to Roscommon and Leitrim in underage football.
I'm not here to slate anyone, as they're all working for the betterment of Galway GAA. However, you'd hope this is being reviewed in great detail, as we're just not seeing the progress, either in player development or in results on the pitch.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2347 - 01/06/2025 22:54:59    2614183

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Even when we were poor at senior, we'd generally have a strong underage team, to give us a bit of (usually false) hope. We'd don't even have that anymore. This year must have been one of the worst at underage for Galway in both codes in a very long time. None of our minor or U20 teams really made a dent in either of their championships.
I know there was a lot of clarity provided late last year about the work going on at underage, the partnership with Setanta college, the S&C programs overseen by Des Ryan formerly of Arsenal etc. While I've no doubt people are working hard at this, it doesn't seem to be bearing much fruit. If anything we seem to be regressing. Being well beaten by Clare and Dublin in underage hurling. Losing to Roscommon and Leitrim in underage football.
I'm not here to slate anyone, as they're all working for the betterment of Galway GAA. However, you'd hope this is being reviewed in great detail, as we're just not seeing the progress, either in player development or in results on the pitch."
Imo there is too much emphasis on s+c in academies. I'm around them a long time and the easy option is being taken by coaches every year. I see players every year being retained and I'd be scratching my head. No new faces. Players playing B club hurling looking great and other players very average in A and A1 games. Top level sport tough decisions need to be made and it's the easy option in Galway. I've said it in a previous post " ur surname is more important than ur ability in Galway"

Armchairreporter (Galway) - Posts: 110 - 02/06/2025 11:26:03    2614253

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Even when we were poor at senior, we'd generally have a strong underage team, to give us a bit of (usually false) hope. We'd don't even have that anymore. This year must have been one of the worst at underage for Galway in both codes in a very long time. None of our minor or U20 teams really made a dent in either of their championships.
I know there was a lot of clarity provided late last year about the work going on at underage, the partnership with Setanta college, the S&C programs overseen by Des Ryan formerly of Arsenal etc. While I've no doubt people are working hard at this, it doesn't seem to be bearing much fruit. If anything we seem to be regressing. Being well beaten by Clare and Dublin in underage hurling. Losing to Roscommon and Leitrim in underage football.
I'm not here to slate anyone, as they're all working for the betterment of Galway GAA. However, you'd hope this is being reviewed in great detail, as we're just not seeing the progress, either in player development or in results on the pitch."
Great post. It was a short time ago when we won 4 All Ireland's in a row at Minor Hurling. With great schools like Presentation, St Raphael's, GCS, etc I'm sure we will reload again but it is disappointing to be out of it already.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2524 - 02/06/2025 12:03:40    2614265

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "Minors exit championship at quarters for the first time since 2007. Question of management to be asked"
What questions would you be asking them (management) and what would you have done differently?

I saw a team that was comprehensively outplayed overall for the second time in a week, what could the management have done about that that they didn't proactively try to do something about, given that there were a couple of personnel and a raft of positional changes from the KK game last weekend?

I'll be interested to see what you'd propose they could or should have done differently.

That stat you quote is an irrelevant nonsense btw as in most of those years we had to win (at most) one match against an opponent we could plan for who couldn't plan for us.

Anyone would think we had to navigate a provincial MHC campaign for the last 18 years instead of the last 3.

You can do a lot of things with statistics but you have to use them in context.

In reality we will probably harvest as much from this year's and next year's minor team as we would from an All Ireland winning one.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 02/06/2025 13:02:57    2614285

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Replying To Crashingwaves:  "
Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "[quote=Crashingwaves:  "[quote=Stool Pigeon:  "[quote=Crashingwaves:  "If you we use this year's dates as a guide:
The Leinster Championship would be something like this:
19 April
Dublin v Offaly
KK v Wexford

3 May Leinster Final
Dublin v KK Leinster

20 April
Munster Championship
Clare v Cork
Tipp v Limerck [extra time in case of a draw


27 April
Waterford v Cork

11 May Munster Final
Cork v Limerick

17/18 May
The All-Ireland Series
Antrim and Galway plus all the above counties except the Munster finalists who would start the following week."
And the point would be what, exactly?"]I'm surprised you had to ask that question! The main reason as I'm sure you well know is to have an All Ireland competition that is fair and competitive."]You have no link between the provincials and the All Ireland.

There will be zero interest in your proposal.

That's why I asked you what the point of it was, because there isn't any apparent benefit to anyone"]Are you content with the present system? If not, what's your solution?"]I don't really have a particular problem with the present system. If Waterford can't qualify from Munster that's a problem for them.

My ideological preference would be an open draw with perhaps the previous years' AISF qualifiers seeded to provide a reward of sorts but the reality is you aren't going to have a system that doesn't use the provincial championships and you can't feasibly have a PC and then have an open draw championship with groups. The demand just won't be there for it.
It would effectively be reducing the provincials to challenge matches so there'd be no point in having it.

For whatever flaws it might have the current system is about as good as it gets I think, though I'm always open to trying new things if they look like a good idea.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 02/06/2025 13:09:48    2614288

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Replying To Armchairreporter:  "Imo there is too much emphasis on s+c in academies. I'm around them a long time and the easy option is being taken by coaches every year. I see players every year being retained and I'd be scratching my head. No new faces. Players playing B club hurling looking great and other players very average in A and A1 games. Top level sport tough decisions need to be made and it's the easy option in Galway. I've said it in a previous post " ur surname is more important than ur ability in Galway""
Not taking issue with what youve said but what are some things you would do that are currently not being done? What's an example of a 'tough decision' that needs to be made but hasn't been? Again I'm not trying to argue, I'm just asking, you may have several examples of the above.

You would expect IC level players to look great in B club hurling and to look average in A or A1 surely, that's a normal thing? A player in a B competition who is IC level might be playing against an opposition club who have nobody operating at his level, nobody able to curtail him, this is unlikely to be the case at the higher grades, so it surely can't be a surprise that he stands out at B? But equally if he's the only player of that level then his club is going to be operating lower down. Portumna were minor B when JC was in his last year at the grade iirc. You couldn't put them into A just because they had the best player in the country at the grade.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 02/06/2025 13:29:58    2614296

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Replying To Stool Pigeon:  "What questions would you be asking them (management) and what would you have done differently?

I saw a team that was comprehensively outplayed overall for the second time in a week, what could the management have done about that that they didn't proactively try to do something about, given that there were a couple of personnel and a raft of positional changes from the KK game last weekend?

I'll be interested to see what you'd propose they could or should have done differently.

That stat you quote is an irrelevant nonsense btw as in most of those years we had to win (at most) one match against an opponent we could plan for who couldn't plan for us.

Anyone would think we had to navigate a provincial MHC campaign for the last 18 years instead of the last 3.

You can do a lot of things with statistics but you have to use them in context.

In reality we will probably harvest as much from this year's and next year's minor team as we would from an All Ireland winning one."
What ever way you want to butter it up first exit since 2007 is just deplorable.

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 535 - 02/06/2025 15:32:13    2614329

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I don't imagine we will see much change from the Dublin game for Sunday against the cats. Murphy for the suspended Fahy being the obvious one. Whelan playing out the field will give Kilkenny something to think about.

Murphy

Mannion
Fintan
Daithi

Fahy
Lee
Brennan

Burke
Linnane

Whelan
Monaghan
Fleming

Mannion
Burns
Concannon

galway19 (Galway) - Posts: 915 - 02/06/2025 16:27:28    2614348

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Replying To CillTormoir:  "What ever way you want to butter it up first exit since 2007 is just deplorable."
'just deplorable'

If you say so, stat boy.

Any chance you could elaborate on the 'questions that need to be asked of the management'?

Or are you just whining for the sake of it, which would fit with a lot of the stuff you post, tbf.

Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 934 - 02/06/2025 18:59:03    2614399

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