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Kerry Vs Tyrone

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "The biggest losers in this are Tyrone. They've had to withdraw because of a highly infectious illness spreading through the squad as it has through our society for the past 18 months. Where have you been?"
The losers are the GAA, revenue from the gates. Tyrone, season ruined, Kerry, they need a competitive game and sports lovers. Dublin and Mayo are the only ones to gain from this and I suspect they would prefer the Tyrone/Kerry game to go ahead. The GAA simply are idiots

IsMise (Tyrone) - Posts: 119 - 14/08/2021 14:45:24    2370757

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I agree but so did Kildare and the faa eventually gave in. I feel for Tyrone here and of course being selfish I'd rather Kerry got to play a semi final but we are in totally unprecedented times so as you have stated before let the gaa top dogs earn their big money and try to be fair to all involved."
Maybe Tyrone can get together an unofficial B team of hardy boys who are overlooked by the management and give Kerry an unofficial hard hitting challenge game off radar ...

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 14/08/2021 14:45:45    2370758

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Croke Park need to step up now and do whatever it takes to accommodate Tyrone. If they don't they'll look like idiots and lose the solidarity that the GAA is built on.
If it was Dublin that this happened to the All Ireland would be rescheduled until everyone is fit and well."
You don't know that. They weren't accommodated for the Leinster Final.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 14/08/2021 14:47:00    2370759

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Replying To BeJasus:  "so much for freedom day"
That only applied to England.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 14/08/2021 14:54:37    2370763

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a lot of ppl saying give monaghan a rerun, so how far back do you go to get the semi-final played, the gaa talk big on player welfare yet they and whoever seems to be making decisions regarding this fixture don't have a clue and seem to just want the game played and gate takings banked, who knows what effects and damage has been done to those players who have tested positive, with lungs etc being compromised and if seriously infected may suffer long term covid effects like debilitating tiredness breathing difficulties, fatigue etc, surely the gaa would have logically consulted with the health authorities on this, looks like the gaa havent come out of this in a good light. Yes the clubs need players back but the way things are going its only a matter of a season or 2 before the county players are semi pro like provincial rugby contracted to provincial councils or gaa central and only back with clubs when inter county season for team is finished or are injured and need game time for rehab under supervision, well done tyrone gaa for once standing up for the players and their families,

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 14/08/2021 14:55:01    2370764

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "a lot of ppl saying give monaghan a rerun, so how far back do you go to get the semi-final played, the gaa talk big on player welfare yet they and whoever seems to be making decisions regarding this fixture don't have a clue and seem to just want the game played and gate takings banked, who knows what effects and damage has been done to those players who have tested positive, with lungs etc being compromised and if seriously infected may suffer long term covid effects like debilitating tiredness breathing difficulties, fatigue etc, surely the gaa would have logically consulted with the health authorities on this, looks like the gaa havent come out of this in a good light. Yes the clubs need players back but the way things are going its only a matter of a season or 2 before the county players are semi pro like provincial rugby contracted to provincial councils or gaa central and only back with clubs when inter county season for team is finished or are injured and need game time for rehab under supervision, well done tyrone gaa for once standing up for the players and their families,"
But with that in mind should the decision be made to retire the affected players permanently?
I find it strange listening to posters who are saying how deadly and debilitating this virus is and then in the next breath saying the players should be back training hard and playing intercounty after only a fortnights break.
If you all truly believed in what you're saying then any player who has tested positive for covid should not be allowed near a GAA pitch again except as a viewer...

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 14/08/2021 15:17:25    2370777

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Replying To thegadfly:  "Croke Park need to step up now and do whatever it takes to accommodate Tyrone. If they don't they'll look like idiots and lose the solidarity that the GAA is built on.
If it was Dublin that this happened to the All Ireland would be rescheduled until everyone is fit and well."
Agree everything that can be done should be done. Your comment re Dublin, get that big chip off yer shoulder.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 1003 - 14/08/2021 15:20:13    2370779

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Replying To avonali:  "The GAA will always buckle when enough pressure comes on. Tyrone will be accommoda6ed."
Agreed. The buckled to Kildare in far less challenging circumstances three years ago.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/08/2021 15:28:59    2370782

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Ok, we know where we (Kerry) stand then... would have loved another game to keep us sharp (bugger!!).

Not having a match for what 6 weeks definitely gives the advantage to a fresher Dublin/Mayo.... I wonder if Jack O Connor will give us a good challenge match or something with Kildare?

captainshamrock (Kerry) - Posts: 23 - 14/08/2021 15:40:12    2370789

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Replying To essmac:  "Maybe Tyrone can get together an unofficial B team of hardy boys who are overlooked by the management and give Kerry an unofficial hard hitting challenge game off radar ..."
Benny Hurl, Hog Donnelly and a few of the Windmill lads from yesteryear would sort the Kerry boys out

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2102 - 14/08/2021 15:45:33    2370793

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Replying To Byanthon:  "Tyrone had to withdraw from 2001 nfl semi final which I think they would have won. One week/ two weeks makes no difference here. Unless this was put back weeks then we can only wish the rest of the teams good luck. In saying that Tyrone were also put out of the u21 all Ireland semi final in April 2001 but Tyrone appealed and won the competition the following October.

The gaa are in an impossible situation in trying to finish this before September and they have already messed up the league with adherence to a tight deadline."
In fairness if the GAA postpone the match by 1 extra week it will only affect club fixtures in 3 counties, other 29 counties championships will be unaffected. GAA authorities getting into this muddle over 1 week has shown a huge lack of common sense.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1416 - 14/08/2021 17:35:22    2370855

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Replying To Galway9801:  "But with that in mind should the decision be made to retire the affected players permanently?
I find it strange listening to posters who are saying how deadly and debilitating this virus is and then in the next breath saying the players should be back training hard and playing intercounty after only a fortnights break.
If you all truly believed in what you're saying then any player who has tested positive for covid should not be allowed near a GAA pitch again except as a viewer..."
where have i said to play it in 2wks? obviously by your post you have not been affected by covid either mildly, adversly or even assymptomatic showing no symptoms, ive had it in feb and still having effects from it, awaiting another test because of similar symptoms from 1st time even though ive had both jabs, if croke park think tyrone are trying it on to get a couple of wks its easily proved or disproved with hard facts as each player since pre-season will have his vital stats on record from wearing gps and body monitors in every session on and off the pitch to make sure they are doing what they are supposed to be plus all their match stats will be available, i'm pretty sure the tyrone medical team will have checked the stats on every player affectd and fergal logan will know precisely where they stand legally as he is /was the players from a lot of counties go to lawyer for disciplinary appeals

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 14/08/2021 19:33:18    2370924

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Agree everything that can be done should be done. Your comment re Dublin, get that big chip off yer shoulder."
tyrone will have every players health and fitness record on file from pre season training through in season training, league games championship games etc all digitally recorded on their personal gps body monitors, not hard for tyrone to produce the facts or if croke park think they are trying it on its not hard to ask to see what their medical team are basing decision on, seems croke park thought by issuing a call for ticket orders it would put tyrone on the spot which looks like it's backfired on them denying croke park the gate receipts and tv fees will maybe make them take notice of player welfare not only of county players but the ordinary club players too, this will be mccarthys first test to see if he is up to his word, the gaa suits seem to have lost the run of themselves the last few years where money usurped everything else, we are still in the throes of a pandemic with not all aspects of life back to normal so maybe this is a blessing in disguise, yes unfair on kerry dublin and mayo but it can happen to any county or even clubs before the year is out

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 14/08/2021 19:41:16    2370936

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "In fairness if the GAA postpone the match by 1 extra week it will only affect club fixtures in 3 counties, other 29 counties championships will be unaffected. GAA authorities getting into this muddle over 1 week has shown a huge lack of common sense."
A I posted earlier "Can the Association continue to postpone games indefinitely?
Perhaps the Kerry v Tyrone game should be postponed until September 5 and the final be re-scheduled for the September 19.
The finalists be advised that there will no postponement, play with whatever players are available."

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 764 - 14/08/2021 19:53:51    2370965

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Apparently Dublin are ready to step back in should the GAA decide they must have S/F opponents for Kerry. For the good of The Association

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1071 - 14/08/2021 20:59:04    2371070

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Have tickets been refunded yet ?

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4664 - 15/08/2021 10:02:09    2371363

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Match now looks to be fixed for the 28th, all being well with both teams. I think Tyrone will be depleted anyway going into this from the Covid outbreak, but common sense from GAA leadership has prevailed. Well done all, the players welfare must come first.

whitenred (Tyrone) - Posts: 156 - 15/08/2021 19:08:59    2371642

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gaa statement reporting in tyrone herald game to be played on 28th august, thanking all counties involved and after receiving additional medical evidence and taking expert advice

"The Tyrone players and management will prepare as safely as possible, in the continuing difficult circumstances, to ensure that the best available team will now fulfil this very important fixture," the short statement added.

Saturday August 28 has now been confirmed as the new date for the big game between Tyrone and Kerry, with the All-Ireland Final between the winners and Mayo now scheduled for September 11.

"This revised schedule has been finalised with the integrity of the championship in mind and to ensure that Kerry were not denied a semi-final outing," the statement from Croke Park said.

"The GAA would like to acknowledge the co-operation of all of the counties still involvedin the championship and it looks forward to working with the government to finalise these arrangements.

The times for both the All-Ireland semi-final and final have still to be confirmed.

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 15/08/2021 20:06:37    2371675

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Replying To whitenred:  "Match now looks to be fixed for the 28th, all being well with both teams. I think Tyrone will be depleted anyway going into this from the Covid outbreak, but common sense from GAA leadership has prevailed. Well done all, the players welfare must come first."
cant see it being enough time to prepare, possibly a chance for some of the panel to shine though cant see kerry lose but certainly wont be a 16pt drubbing, possibly 5/6pt kerry win even if id like to see tyrone in a final as their is the making of a fine team if they can get all their players fit and geling hopefully the mckenna cup can be played in new yr to get lads game time to let the management het a proper look at players under match conditions, 3 legue games and 3 championship games is a short season

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 15/08/2021 20:11:07    2371677

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Fair play to Kerry for pushing for a semi final. Without their input I would doubt that there would have been any move.
Let's now Hope that Tyrone will be in a position to give Kerry a good match.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 921 - 15/08/2021 20:31:36    2371688

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