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Kerry Vs Tyrone

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Hope all OK again Avon."
All ok now thanks Mick; the son is gradually improving TG.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2025 - 12/08/2021 02:03:48    2370008

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Replying To avonali:  "Co-morbidity, which is related to class, is the central issue. This is a particularly opportunistic virus.My point is that the way people are peddlling figures in here misses part of the issue. If you want to tackle this virus you cannot depend on vaccines and protocols exclusively. It's not just about severing the chains of transmission.
If I'm not making myself clear read one of the the scientists yourself.
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Peddling figures like actual numbers of deaths while you put forward spurious stuff about how Covid is some capitalist thing! Which originated in a socialist laboratory, ironically.

Social "science" by the way is no more scientific that tipping horses.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 12/08/2021 06:14:12    2370012

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "GPA involved now on Tyrone players behalf. They are the real power in the GAA nowadays. I expect they'll be given the 2 weeks postponement now."
The GPA have as much power as a busted light bulb….absolutely none…!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4243 - 12/08/2021 07:13:55    2370014

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There is no other option. Tyrone will have to concede. They are not going to be in a position to field and we're probably lucky to get away with it against Monaghan. Good luck to Kerry it certainly isn't their fault but the tight deadlines leave the gaa with little room to move.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1792 - 12/08/2021 07:54:37    2370015

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The GAA should have had a very clear stance on this prior to the start of the championship. The only feasible stance is that counties put out their best team available to them as happens in professional soccer etc

Otherwise you're into a world of continuous postponements at any given time running the real risk of the championship becoming farcical.

Tyrone should play this game with the best team available to them and get on with it, Covid won't go away anytime soon and will impact all counties at all levels.

artisan (Down) - Posts: 1795 - 12/08/2021 08:31:45    2370019

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Replying To avonali:  "All ok now thanks Mick; the son is gradually improving TG."
Glad to hear Avon.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4081 - 12/08/2021 09:21:25    2370023

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You can be sure if it was Dublin they'd be accommodated

kick-it (Leitrim) - Posts: 33 - 12/08/2021 09:29:32    2370025

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The only fair course of action here is for Wicklow to take Tyrone's place, and the semi to be played in Aughrim.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2954 - 12/08/2021 09:36:43    2370028

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To avonali:  "Co-morbidity, which is related to class, is the central issue. This is a particularly opportunistic virus.My point is that the way people are peddlling figures in here misses part of the issue. If you want to tackle this virus you cannot depend on vaccines and protocols exclusively. It's not just about severing the chains of transmission.
If I'm not making myself clear read one of the the scientists yourself.
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Peddling figures like actual numbers of deaths while you put forward spurious stuff about how Covid is some capitalist thing! Which originated in a socialist laboratory, ironically.

Social "science" by the way is no more scientific that tipping horses."
Barney, I don't know if you're familiar with The Lancet but it is a peer reviewed medical journal. It has no political leaning, left or right whatsoever. That article is backed up by empirically verifiable facts, it is not social science at all. I never said it was a Capitalist thing, where in the name of God are you getting that??? Covid is far more prevalent in Older citizens, people from different ethnic communities poorly aid key workers. To identify that as a fact does not signify a political leaning. I think your comments reveal a lot more about your political commitments than mine.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2025 - 12/08/2021 10:15:15    2370036

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So are reports correct that 50% of the panel have contracted Covid? Seems a lot considering the vaccine program was a lot more advanced in the north than it was here in the republic ? Also you would think that all necessary precautions would have been strictly implemented given the opportunity to progress to the final. Anyway I hope they all make a full recovery. A reminder to us all that this Covid situation is far from over & that public health advice needs to be strictly adhered to.

P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 106 - 12/08/2021 10:24:54    2370037

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I think there needs to be some clarity on this either way, because right now we still do not know if the game will go ahead or not and it's clear that an extra six days is insufficient, but perhaps even an extra 14 days wouldn't be sufficient either as the virus is bound to effect their fitness and it has been reported that 'some of them are in poor enough shape'.

So whether it's six days or fourteen days the team will still be weakened.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/08/2021 10:28:23    2370041

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Replying To kick-it:  "You can be sure if it was Dublin they'd be accommodated"
It was Dublin and they weren't accommodated. Salty much?

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 12/08/2021 10:30:54    2370042

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Replying To Jackeen:  "It was Dublin and they weren't accommodated. Salty much?"
He obviously doesn't follow hurling.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2025 - 12/08/2021 10:50:40    2370051

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Replying To P.Mckenna:  "So are reports correct that 50% of the panel have contracted Covid? Seems a lot considering the vaccine program was a lot more advanced in the north than it was here in the republic ? Also you would think that all necessary precautions would have been strictly implemented given the opportunity to progress to the final. Anyway I hope they all make a full recovery. A reminder to us all that this Covid situation is far from over & that public health advice needs to be strictly adhered to."
The vaccine doesnt stop anyone getting covid. Just means that people dont get it as bad.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 12/08/2021 10:52:50    2370052

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "
Replying To avonali:  "Co-morbidity, which is related to class, is the central issue. This is a particularly opportunistic virus.My point is that the way people are peddlling figures in here misses part of the issue. If you want to tackle this virus you cannot depend on vaccines and protocols exclusively. It's not just about severing the chains of transmission.
If I'm not making myself clear read one of the the scientists yourself.
link"
Peddling figures like actual numbers of deaths while you put forward spurious stuff about how Covid is some capitalist thing! Which originated in a socialist laboratory, ironically.

Social "science" by the way is no more scientific that tipping horses."
There are many that think it was planted in China to cripple their economy. Thinking that it wouldnt spread all over the world like the SARS didnt in 2003.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 12/08/2021 10:54:30    2370053

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Disappointing hoganstand is allowing posters says covid isnt real. The virus is very real and misinformation on a gaa thread is wrong after loads in the Gaa communities lost loved ones to covid"
Dont think anyone is saying it isnt real or that sadly some people have died from it. Some people are disputing whether the country should've been locked down as long. And certainly there are deaths attributed to covid that wouldve happened anyway if there never had been any covid. Personally I think the lockdowns were necessary. I also think there will be people dying from covid for years to come just as there are people dying in car crashes, from cancer or committing suicide. The hysteria largely due to social media was unwarranted though. And the governments handling of the crisis was very poor, especially the zero increase in acute hospital beds between the 1st and 2nd waves when all the TDs went on holiday for the summer and didnt even reconvene when asked, in order to discuss the emerging 2nd wave and pending return to school.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 12/08/2021 11:02:11    2370056

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Replying To Viking66:  "The vaccine doesnt stop anyone getting covid. Just means that people dont get it as bad."
I think the vaccine will stop a lot of people from getting it, but the people who are vaccinated that do get covid have a much less risk of getting very sick with it or needing hospital treatment, that's how I understand it anyway.
Most of the cases now are in young unvaccinated people, think as many as 1 in 4 are testing positive in Buncrana.
Hope they give Tyrone a chance to get ready, six days extra is nowhere near enough time.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3408 - 12/08/2021 11:25:31    2370070

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I think the vaccine will stop a lot of people from getting it, but the people who are vaccinated that do get covid have a much less risk of getting very sick with it or needing hospital treatment, that's how I understand it anyway.
Most of the cases now are in young unvaccinated people, think as many as 1 in 4 are testing positive in Buncrana.
Hope they give Tyrone a chance to get ready, six days extra is nowhere near enough time."
Alot of those younger people are apparently in the 15 to 20 age group most of whom werent getting tested at all last year as they wouldve been largely asymptomatic if they had it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16836 - 12/08/2021 11:46:09    2370080

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Disappointing hoganstand is allowing posters says covid isnt real. The virus is very real and misinformation on a gaa thread is wrong after loads in the Gaa communities lost loved ones to covid"
Could you please name the posters who have said it isn't real?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1942 - 12/08/2021 13:04:15    2370123

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Replying To Viking66:  "Dont think anyone is saying it isnt real or that sadly some people have died from it. Some people are disputing whether the country should've been locked down as long. And certainly there are deaths attributed to covid that wouldve happened anyway if there never had been any covid. Personally I think the lockdowns were necessary. I also think there will be people dying from covid for years to come just as there are people dying in car crashes, from cancer or committing suicide. The hysteria largely due to social media was unwarranted though. And the governments handling of the crisis was very poor, especially the zero increase in acute hospital beds between the 1st and 2nd waves when all the TDs went on holiday for the summer and didnt even reconvene when asked, in order to discuss the emerging 2nd wave and pending return to school."
I agree with a lot of your post. Without getting too bogged down on the political commentary, I presume you heard yesterday the doctors spokesperson referring to the acute shortage of medical personnel, the large number of unfilled consultant posts etc. This was in response to the INO's suggestion that hospital services should be curtailed due to nurse and other healthcare staff shortages.

Issues with our health service are complicated and not as readily solvable as they might initially seem. Not possible to magic up acute hospital beds when the personnel isn't there to staff them. Won't say any more on this as we should really be talking about the match only!
Give Tyrone the extra week postponement is what I say. If it takes til December to play the All Ireland so be it.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2066 - 12/08/2021 13:05:32    2370124

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