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Replying To Mailman98:  "As I always say to any Mayo fan I meet; Remember the immortal words of Paudie o se, "Kerry fans are animals". He meant they don't idolise losers. They obliterate them. That's why they are never away for long. Could you ever imagine Kerry fans believing in a curse?"
So you think every county is like Kerry or every soccer team is like Real Madrid, two counties, Dublin and Kerry have won 50% of the All-Irelands ever won and the average for "the rest" of the 17 counties who have won it is 2, so it's actually a novelty for any county outside the "big two" to win an All-Ireland and I don't see that two team dominance changing any time soon.

You'll get the occasional flash in the pan, but that's about it.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 10/08/2021 16:50:24    2369603

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anyone have any update on Mayo players who are available for selection, anyone definitely out apart from Cillian.

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 488 - 10/08/2021 17:00:15    2369604

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Replying To the_walls:  "Virtually no notice given, absolutely ridiculous from the GAA"
Surprised they were not all taken by clubs in both counties.

Difficult to believe that a fixture that has sold out every time in the last 15 years they've met in championship should have enough left over for public sale.

I wonder are people being frightened off going?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 10/08/2021 17:11:32    2369608

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Surprised they were not all taken by clubs in both counties.

Difficult to believe that a fixture that has sold out every time in the last 15 years they've met in championship should have enough left over for public sale.

I wonder are people being frightened off going?"
From our own clubs point of view we didn't get the tickets we asked for, so maybe they didn't all get dished out to the clubs.

Twofootedtackle (Mayo) - Posts: 5 - 10/08/2021 17:54:18    2369618

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Replying To Twofootedtackle:  "From our own clubs point of view we didn't get the tickets we asked for, so maybe they didn't all get dished out to the clubs."
No idea how many mine asked for and i think they were restricting it to playing/fully paid members rather than allowing a bit of scope for people who would have name for being regular match goers.

Pity that so many county pass and season ticket holders are losing out. They are often people who are long past playing and deliberately chose that option so as not to be competing with current club members.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3688 - 10/08/2021 18:19:50    2369625

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Replying To MayoDan:  "There were 2 Mayo men in the 23 for some of the Irish rugby games in the last year. Keegan was playing rugby with connacht in his younger days, that's why he missed out on Mayo minors. Every young lad in Mayo plays soccer growing up too.

Of course we've less hurlers than Galway, but we also have around half their population."
Look most Galway fans I have met know where we are and the fall out from the last day and this is far more representative of us than the spat a few of ye guys are having with one of our posters. The population point is not the full story. Everyone knows GAA is quite difficult to promote in cities particularly a cosmopolitan one like Galway. 3 senior clubs in the City tells its own story and only one of them would have large numbers. Also when both codes are pretty equal resources are competitive unlike in Mayo, Kerry or Kilkenny for example where one code is heavily looked after and the other is very definitely a poor relation. Small point but Galway actually has less registered clubs than Mayo from my last recollection of this. The other thing I am amazed at is why Mayo have never gone down the divisional route like Kerry. Perfect for your county set up. I would think decent junior club players may be missed down through the years. Would never really work in Galway because of the football hurling geography and by association the notable divide.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1992 - 10/08/2021 21:09:55    2369661

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Replying To Gleebo:  "I hope your username is merely an homage to the great man.

I don't understand this "football only county" craic that I hear frequently about Mayo. I went to school with fellas who played all sorts of sports: there were fellas who played underage soccer for the Republic of Ireland, fellas who won national titles in basketball and tennis, fellas who won cross-country medals in Connacht and nationally. One fella represented Ireland at swimming at the Rio Olympics, another was a pro tennis player who represented Ireland in the Davis Cup, until he had to retire from injury a few years back. There's even a lad who went on to become a professional weightlifter/body-builder. There were also a couple of fellas who made the Connacht hurling squad at underage, believe it or not.

And this is just one school in one town.

Several Mayo men are playing League of Ireland soccer for the likes of Galway United, Sligo Rovers, Longford, Athlone etc. So this craic about gaelic football being the only show in town is way overblown IMO. FFS, even on the Mayo panel last year, Chris Barrett won an FAI Youth Cup with Erris United (smashed in two lovely goals in the final), Eoghan McLaughlin was a champion cyclist, Aidan O'Shea shoots some hoops with Sligo in the winter etc.

The stuff about money is way off too. Mayo get very little subsidy from the GAA and have to raise most of what they have from their fans at home or abroad. Given the lack of employment opportunities in the county, a lot of the money goes on mileage for players coming down from Dublin (there were over 20 such players on the extended panel in 2019) or on travel and accommodation costs.

This is not a problem Galway (or Dublin) have- I believe that there was only one player on the combined football and hurling panels based outside of the county a few years back, although that might have changed in the meantime.

It's a shame that Galway's form has dipped such that some of ye seem to enjoy Mayo's losses more than your own wins, though."
Regardless of where it's coming from ye are spending more of it than anyone outside Dublin. I prefer a Galway win than a Mayo loss and I definitely hate a Galway loss more than Mayo fans hate a Mayo loss.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 07:59:57    2369708

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Replying To Gleebo:  "What you're saying is simplistic nonsense, if all it took to win Sam was for lads to act the maggot towards county players, every county in Ireland would have won one by now.

It's a myth that Mayo people universally heap praise on every fella that's ever pulled on the green and red jersey, have a word with the likes of Liam McHale, Ciarán MacDonald, JP Kean, John Maughan etc. and they'll put you right fairly quickly on that.

P Shea also rowed back fairly quickly on those comments, if I remember correctly.

Kerry are going through a famine of their own right now (by their lofty standards). I imagine that there must have been a few cutting words for them locally in recent years.

Kerry are the best (since the GAA was formed) because they teach the skills of the game better than anyone else. Tomás Ó Sé says that teams down there spend a lot of time before training on foot passing, shooting etc. and I could well believe it, as they tend to execute those skills very well.

Also, the structure of their local championships exposes a wider range of players from small clubs to the highest level of competition."
Myth? There will be 15,000 people at the first league game in Castlebar next year telling them the mighty men they are after losing this years all ireland final or semi by a point.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 08:09:20    2369709

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Hard to beat a winner like yourself eh? Getting in a bit of attempted trolling before you start big school."
I had the leaving cert done when you were idolising the Mayo losing finalists in 1990. Over 30 years later you're still idolising them. Keep at it.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 08:17:10    2369711

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Replying To MayoDan:  "There were 2 Mayo men in the 23 for some of the Irish rugby games in the last year. Keegan was playing rugby with connacht in his younger days, that's why he missed out on Mayo minors. Every young lad in Mayo plays soccer growing up too.

Of course we've less hurlers than Galway, but we also have around half their population."
How did your population compare with Offaly in the 80s and 90s for example?

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 08:25:19    2369713

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Imagine some Galway lad telling you in a bar to be more of an animal. That's where we've been going wrong all this time."
Imagine a Mayoman in a bar, or anywhere else, telling Lee Keegan he's the best half back of all time and not a worthwhile piece of silverware to his name. "Oh but Leeroy was footballer of the year and stopped Connolly".

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 08:31:32    2369714

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Imagine some Galway lad telling you in a bar to be more of an animal. That's where we've been going wrong all this time."
I apologise to pussy cats. They are animals too.

Mailman98 (Galway) - Posts: 319 - 11/08/2021 08:34:00    2369715

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Replying To Mailman98:  "I had the leaving cert done when you were idolising the Mayo losing finalists in 1990. Over 30 years later you're still idolising them. Keep at it."
You mean you're nearly 50 and you're in here slagging Mayo people over losing a final in 1990?? Jaysiss wept!

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 2004 - 11/08/2021 09:33:09    2369719

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Triggered!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8152 - 11/08/2021 09:40:32    2369721

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Wow, that is some chip on the shoulder you have when it comes to Mayo Mailman. All the more bizarre considering Galway are 6 ahead in the roll of honour as you have been reminding us.

the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 497 - 11/08/2021 09:46:26    2369723

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Replying To Mailman98:  "Imagine a Mayoman in a bar, or anywhere else, telling Lee Keegan he's the best half back of all time and not a worthwhile piece of silverware to his name. "Oh but Leeroy was footballer of the year and stopped Connolly"."
it's been a while since galway had a player of the year

mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 11/08/2021 10:09:20    2369730

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If only there was a Bitter Old Man Complaining thread for Mailman to post in. Can you stick to the upcoming game in this thread for the next few days pleaser? You've the rest of your sad life to belittle Mayo and their players.

Mac&Cheese (Mayo) - Posts: 9 - 11/08/2021 10:26:28    2369734

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Replying To Mailman98:  "Regardless of where it's coming from ye are spending more of it than anyone outside Dublin. I prefer a Galway win than a Mayo loss and I definitely hate a Galway loss more than Mayo fans hate a Mayo loss."
Yes, because as you've ignored from the previous post, Mayo is one of the furthest counties away from Dublin and a large number of our players have to commute to training and matches from there. It's not like Galway where your entire panel resides locally, the mileage and other costs build up very quickly. It's an overhead that the more urbanized counties don't have for the most part.

The long journeys through the qualifiers in recent years, having to arrange accommodation, food etc. for 30-40 people at the height of the summer tourist season wouldn't have helped much either. It is what it is.

Personally I'd prefer if the spiralling costs of running a county set-up were reined in by the GAA at central level, but this would probably involve getting rid of the qualifier system, super eights, a lot of the backroom staff that county setups usually have etc. and I can see vested interests objecting to that.

As for the rest...zzzz.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 11/08/2021 11:16:02    2369761

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Replying To Mailman98:  "Imagine a Mayoman in a bar, or anywhere else, telling Lee Keegan he's the best half back of all time and not a worthwhile piece of silverware to his name. "Oh but Leeroy was footballer of the year and stopped Connolly"."
Keegan has 6 Connacht titles, an NFL, four all stars and is the highest scoring defender of all time. He also won an intermediate club all Ireland with Westport.

No worthwhile piece of silverware there? Your pathetic lad and not a true Gael. If all we measure success by is senior all Ireland's then 99% of us are utter failures.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11679 - 11/08/2021 12:35:34    2369800

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Keegan has 6 Connacht titles, an NFL, four all stars and is the highest scoring defender of all time. He also won an intermediate club all Ireland with Westport.

No worthwhile piece of silverware there? Your pathetic lad and not a true Gael. If all we measure success by is senior all Ireland's then 99% of us are utter failures."
True Yewtree. All ireland success does nt tell the full story. I mean is Conor McManus a lesser footballer THAN some of the Dublin forwards. Is Patrick Horgan any less of a hurler than some Kilkenny forwards. McManus Horgan and Lee Keegan have been better players than many with all ireland medals. You can judge a team on success but not individual players.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4001 - 11/08/2021 12:56:32    2369812

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