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If you knew the man he just gets on with things and doesn't complain..he has been cleared time to forget and look forward to hopefully a classic on Sunday with a limerick win., CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 16/08/2021 12:49:49 2371943 Link
Replying To PaudieSull1: "Gillane struck O Donoghue blatantly with the hurley that day same as he did Barrett…..wise up and stop condoning foul play as that is all you are doing….be under no illusion young lads will watch incidents like that and think that slapping back is acceptable as they saw it on TV go unpunished when along with the block on the hands it is the most cowardly stroke in hurling Limerick rightly favourites on Sunday week and Casey now gets his chance ……I doubt Cork were giving it a 2nd thought so realistically makes little difference to the game but the disciplinary process in the GAA is now a total mess (albeit Limerick aren't the only ones to contribute to that) ….." Forgive me for speculating but with a name like PaudieOSull and the "blinkered" tone of your comments, are you by any chance a transplanted Corkman masquerading as a Downman tolend credibility to your BS?. You may well be only Paudie OSull to ever come out of the land of McCartan's And McAlinden's. But "I'm not sayin nutting, shure I'm just makin a comment." PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 16/08/2021 13:12:43 2371952 Link
On the match Sunday,what are people making of ticket situation?would I be wrong in putting this idea forward,with the reduced capacity could croke park not have said that for the year that's in it only tickets will go to competing counties?it makes no sense that with less than half capacity every county is still getting an allocation..I know I'm going to upset a lot of posters..the same will happen do football final.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 16/08/2021 13:22:02 2371961 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "On the match Sunday,what are people making of ticket situation?would I be wrong in putting this idea forward,with the reduced capacity could croke park not have said that for the year that's in it only tickets will go to competing counties?it makes no sense that with less than half capacity every county is still getting an allocation..I know I'm going to upset a lot of posters..the same will happen do football final.." Think the ticket situation is completely ridiculous.. Less tickets are available to clubs in Limerick and Cork than for the semi finals!! Of course the bulk of tickets should be available to participating counties, I'd say the same irregardless of who was in the final. Am I correct that only 12,000, 6,000 each gone to us and Cork and the and the rest corporate and other counties? skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1111 - 16/08/2021 13:44:42 2371971 Link
Replying To skillet: "Think the ticket situation is completely ridiculous.. Less tickets are available to clubs in Limerick and Cork than for the semi finals!! Of course the bulk of tickets should be available to participating counties, I'd say the same irregardless of who was in the final. Am I correct that only 12,000, 6,000 each gone to us and Cork and the and the rest corporate and other counties?" This is always a difficult one. Of course it would be great if everyone could get a ticket, but I do think the distribution of tickets across counties is a great thing. I have heard it said before that people who have not gone to a game all year get tickets for finals. However very often, the volunteers at clubs cannot go to games as they are carrying out essential grass roots work that keep the association alive. It's great that these people get to go to the showpiece. I agree that probably with the reduced attendance, maybe something could be done, but also after Covid and the strain of it, maybe the GAA volunteers need this as much as ever. It's a real problem, because there is no perfect solution. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 318 - 16/08/2021 14:35:46 2371995 Link
Liam Sheedy has decided to move on after giving great service and leadership to Tipp. However the tripe that this journalist O' Donnell wrote in the Examiner today beggars description. I know paper never refuses ink but if Jesus Christ was a hurling manager he would not be able to apply as many accolades to him. Some were not of this world for sure. I would image it would embarrass Liam. This guy will have a major problem when Brian Cody retires as there will not be enough words in the dictionary for him. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3111 - 16/08/2021 18:29:34 2372112 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "On the match Sunday,what are people making of ticket situation?would I be wrong in putting this idea forward,with the reduced capacity could croke park not have said that for the year that's in it only tickets will go to competing counties?it makes no sense that with less than half capacity every county is still getting an allocation..I know I'm going to upset a lot of posters..the same will happen do football final.." No I'd agree with you when it is reduced capacity. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2393 - 16/08/2021 18:58:49 2372124 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "The audio transcript of the incident shows the referee consulting with the linesman firstly who didn't fully see the incident, he then spoke to his umpires, one of whom is very clear that there was a headbutt by a Limerick player, the RTE footage clearly backs this view, apparently the referee erred in not consulting again with linesman after umpire spoke to him. I've no idea why this is seen as an error as he had no need to consult again. The umpire saw what everyone neutral saw, a clear headbutt, interestingly Casey himself just walked off, he knew what had happened. Rescinding of the referee's decision is simply wrong here, fair minded supporters know what happened. Limerick want the rules bent to their needs, Gillane, Flanagan, Hegarty, Condon all guilty in recent years, now Casey." Apparently the technicality was the fact that the umpire's 'view' was what he saw on the big screen. Also, umpires are not appointed by Croke Park, no one knows what biases they might have. It's perfectly reasonable for Croke Park to go with their appointed linesman over the umpire. Anyone who says the RTE footage is clear cut must have got some new footage from them the rest of us haven't seen. blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 17/08/2021 05:00:30 2372208 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Liam Sheedy has decided to move on after giving great service and leadership to Tipp. However the tripe that this journalist O' Donnell wrote in the Examiner today beggars description. I know paper never refuses ink but if Jesus Christ was a hurling manager he would not be able to apply as many accolades to him. Some were not of this world for sure. I would image it would embarrass Liam. This guy will have a major problem when Brian Cody retires as there will not be enough words in the dictionary for him." I agree, Canuck. Sheedy is renown for his organisational and man management skills but that alone will not win anything. Of course he deserves credit for the team's achievements under his management, but was two All-Ireland titles in his six years at the helm a huge achievement, given the players available to him? To my mind the most complete displays given by Tipp in recent years were the 2014 drawn final v Kilkenny (Eamon O'Shea as manager) and the 2016 final (under Michael Ryan). The coaching and tactical skills of O'Shea, Ryan and others deserve as much credit as Sheedy for Tipp's successes, even if they weren't often in the limelight. One big negative on Sheedy's CV is that he failed to blend in enough of the successful Under 20/21 players into the senior set-up. He was loyal to the older players which was fair enough but surely he could have given more League action to players like Mark Kehoe, Brian McGrath, Paddy Cadell and Eoghan Connolly, to enable them to be more effective when introduced to the heat of championship battle. Several of the Cork players who lost two underage finals to Tipp in the last few years have already proved that they are more than ready for senior grade. I don't think Sheedy ever fully grasped the reality that a 26-man panel is essential for the modern game. Why else would he have persistently included players in his match-day squads who were never likely to be called into action? midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 614 - 17/08/2021 10:14:16 2372250 Link
Replying To ecad123: "I do think that Limerick must have uncovered new video evidence also. But I was very surprised how Casey just took the red card and walked off without much complaining. I know when canning was wrongly dismissed in a club game last year he was very animated and arguing with the officials, video evidence showed that he was 100% correct and should not have been sent off. The red he got was rescinded under video evidence. I don't think it was an intentional headbutt but I do find it strange how he never complained when he received the red , when people are accused of doing something they did not do they rairly take it well! I would go crazy if I was accused of headbutting !" Maybe, Casey just realised there was no point in arguing, once the red card was flashed. I wish other players would do the same in similar circumstances and not conduct an argument which has no prospect of success. Have you ever seen a referee change his mind? Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4509 - 17/08/2021 10:20:51 2372257 Link
The ticket situation is the worst it's ever been. Worse even than 1996 when hype levels in both counties were uncontainable. While every other county is getting an allocation this year, I know that Galway only got 20 per cent of their usual supply even though Croke Park is almost at 50 per cent capacity. I don' t have a ticket for Sunday and don't expect to get one at this stage. My name didn't come out of the Members' Draw at the club and the usual suppliers of tickets have nothing and no prospect of getting anything this time around. I have followed Limerick through thin and thinner down the years and have attended League matches we played against the likes of Antrim, Down, Laois, Westmeath and Carlow. I only hope that everyone who gets to Croke Park on Sunday are genuine supporters and not some of the usual event addicts who attend the 'red carpet' occasions, but would laugh in your face if you told them you were traipsing halfway across the country to support Limerick in a qualifier match (that happened to me as recently as 2017 when I told some people in polite company that I would be travelling to Nowlan Park for our 'clash of the no-hopers' clash that July against the Cats). Luimneach abú! GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 17/08/2021 10:43:20 2372269 Link
Replying To GerO.Racle: "The ticket situation is the worst it's ever been. Worse even than 1996 when hype levels in both counties were uncontainable. While every other county is getting an allocation this year, I know that Galway only got 20 per cent of their usual supply even though Croke Park is almost at 50 per cent capacity. I don' t have a ticket for Sunday and don't expect to get one at this stage. My name didn't come out of the Members' Draw at the club and the usual suppliers of tickets have nothing and no prospect of getting anything this time around. I have followed Limerick through thin and thinner down the years and have attended League matches we played against the likes of Antrim, Down, Laois, Westmeath and Carlow. I only hope that everyone who gets to Croke Park on Sunday are genuine supporters and not some of the usual event addicts who attend the 'red carpet' occasions, but would laugh in your face if you told them you were traipsing halfway across the country to support Limerick in a qualifier match (that happened to me as recently as 2017 when I told some people in polite company that I would be travelling to Nowlan Park for our 'clash of the no-hopers' clash that July against the Cats). Luimneach abú!" Was there in 2017,same in 2018 in the quarter final against Kilkenny in thurles in the pouring rain and the attendance was only 17,000,not able to get a ticket for Sunday either. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 17/08/2021 10:54:35 2372275 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Maybe, Casey just realised there was no point in arguing, once the red card was flashed. I wish other players would do the same in similar circumstances and not conduct an argument which has no prospect of success. Have you ever seen a referee change his mind?" My preference would be to review it there and then in real time and it would stop most of the speculation. I simply don't trust these appeal reviews with good reasons from the results both ways and reasons given. If going to continue with the review appeals then look at the provocation and then the whole game is interview. At the end of the day Mike Casey is playing and justice is done because I absolutely hate when a player provokes another getting him sent off when the game is already lost. No-one should know that better than Conor Gleeson. Again review it in public because like Gleeson's deserved sending off against Galway there is a bit of a smell off of some of these appeals. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3111 - 17/08/2021 14:27:59 2372403 Link
A few things are going against getting tickets this year. 1. Cork bring the biggest Ole Ole brigade in the country. We beat them in Liam Dunne's 2nd last match in charge of Wexford and there was about 50 people from Cork at the match. Now every county has a huge bandwagon (and my own are no better here) but the Cork bandwagon is particularly huge. 2. The stupid rule of giving every GAA club in the country tickets. For me, the allocation should be 50/50 between the competing counties, not giving 2-3-4 tickets to some club in Longford or Leitrim which never heard of a hurl. 3. I know there were no season tickets this year but there are people every year who claim to be die-hard supporters and go to every match. Well no offence, but if you go to every match you are costing yourself money not having a season ticket, while also giving yourself a headache of trying to get a ticket. But lastly, be glad to be in it! StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1862 - 17/08/2021 14:48:50 2372415 Link
Replying To StoreysTash: "A few things are going against getting tickets this year. 1. Cork bring the biggest Ole Ole brigade in the country. We beat them in Liam Dunne's 2nd last match in charge of Wexford and there was about 50 people from Cork at the match. Now every county has a huge bandwagon (and my own are no better here) but the Cork bandwagon is particularly huge. 2. The stupid rule of giving every GAA club in the country tickets. For me, the allocation should be 50/50 between the competing counties, not giving 2-3-4 tickets to some club in Longford or Leitrim which never heard of a hurl. 3. I know there were no season tickets this year but there are people every year who claim to be die-hard supporters and go to every match. Well no offence, but if you go to every match you are costing yourself money not having a season ticket, while also giving yourself a headache of trying to get a ticket. But lastly, be glad to be in it!" On the go to every match group a good solution for that is already being used by a few county boards and Premier League soccer clubs. Points are awarded for attending games so when the biggies come round like a final tickets first go to the people who were at all the league matches which in hurling usually just is the diehards. I could be very wrong on this but the season ticket is for a seat in the stand which is a pain if you have friends who get tickets from various different sources. I much prefer the terrace for this reason so season ticket is useless Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 17/08/2021 15:42:51 2372445 Link
Sorry Peter mishap. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3111 - 17/08/2021 17:39:43 2372482 Link
Shouting for Limerick on Sunday, as titles need to be spread around more. Nothing against Cork. Hope it's a great game. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1749 - 17/08/2021 18:26:54 2372492 Link
Replying To GerO.Racle: "The ticket situation is the worst it's ever been. Worse even than 1996 when hype levels in both counties were uncontainable. While every other county is getting an allocation this year, I know that Galway only got 20 per cent of their usual supply even though Croke Park is almost at 50 per cent capacity. I don' t have a ticket for Sunday and don't expect to get one at this stage. My name didn't come out of the Members' Draw at the club and the usual suppliers of tickets have nothing and no prospect of getting anything this time around. I have followed Limerick through thin and thinner down the years and have attended League matches we played against the likes of Antrim, Down, Laois, Westmeath and Carlow. I only hope that everyone who gets to Croke Park on Sunday are genuine supporters and not some of the usual event addicts who attend the 'red carpet' occasions, but would laugh in your face if you told them you were traipsing halfway across the country to support Limerick in a qualifier match (that happened to me as recently as 2017 when I told some people in polite company that I would be travelling to Nowlan Park for our 'clash of the no-hopers' clash that July against the Cats). Luimneach abú!" I have followed the G&W for almost sixty years and I am outside the county for over fifty years. From Ballycastle to Killarney and from Salthill to Wexford Park I have seen them and I only got a ticket by chance from somewhere at the other end of the country. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4509 - 17/08/2021 18:53:21 2372501 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Shouting for Limerick on Sunday, as titles need to be spread around more. Nothing against Cork. Hope it's a great game." Thanks SVP. For eighteen years from '99 to '16 inclusive, seventeen out of eighteen titles went to Cork Tipp or Kilkenny- why any neutral would shout against a smaller county and for any of those three is totally beyond me. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4509 - 17/08/2021 18:56:54 2372503 Link
Replying To suckvalleypaddy: "Shouting for Limerick on Sunday, as titles need to be spread around more. Nothing against Cork. Hope it's a great game." I agree with you but spare a thought for some of them long serving Cork lads that never won anything. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2552 - 17/08/2021 20:27:39 2372523 Link