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Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Amalgamated and stand alone teams to take part in AI football championship. Two Amalgamated teams representing Dublin geographical area.I have not included London and New York for logistical reasons. Separately there would be tiered competitions among the counties as they exist presently with the exception of Dublin where there would be four teams.This way supporters can still show their allegiance to their clubs and county teams. With the 16 competitive teams the AI championship could be played through open draw and straight knockout or divided into groups.I favour groups of four and each team play each other on a home and away basis.This would help to engender the team ethic particularly among the amalgamated teams and give supporters an opportunity to see and support their teams. In tandem with these changes Croke Park to financially and actively support the setting up of development academys in each county including the four Dublin counties and also have an oversight body to promote the game in areas where it hasn't been that successful. 1 Fingal/Dublin City 2 Dublin South/DLRD 3 Kerry 4 Cork 5 Clare/Limerick/Tipperary 6 Waterford/Kilkenny/Wexford/Carlow/Wicklow 7 Laois/Offaly/Kildare 8 Meath/Westmeath/Longford 9 Galway 10 Mayo 11 Roscommon/Sligo/Leitrim 12 Cavan/Fermanagh/Armagh 13 Donegal 14 Tyrone 15 Down/Louth 16 Antrim/Derry/Monaghan" How would Antrim Derry monaghan work Cm1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 3 - 12/12/2020 15:31:15 2321593 Link
Irish solution to and Irish problem, what could possibly go wrong Dougal lol. AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 12/12/2020 16:03:39 2321608 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "This is a horrendous proposal that goes against so much of what makes the GAA the monstrous great beast that it is. It sounds like its just to stop Dublin. Dublin not to be a full county as it is ever again is a joke and should never be accepted by anyone who appreciates what the GAA is all about. Your regional teams, number 6 most of all have no regional identity. It doesnt help football in most of these areas." Your missing the point here,its not about identity,its about representation and equal opportunity for players in every county to take part in a competitive AI football championship....it would then be worthy of the All Ireland banner. Identity would still continue with the tiered competitions where all teams would play against similarly accomplished and capable teams. Of course there would be teething problems and possibly teams not in balance with each other initially and this could be tweaked. It certainly would be a whole lot better than what we have at the moment and the term ALL Ireland is not apt to describe the current competition which is completely out of kilter and devoid of balance and equal opportunity. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/12/2020 16:38:58 2321622 Link
Replying To Cm1: "How would Antrim Derry monaghan work" Can you develop your question a bit more,all amalgamated teams would work out on the same basis. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/12/2020 16:41:10 2321623 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Can you develop your question a bit more,all amalgamated teams would work out on the same basis." I mean in the way that monaghan is nowhere near the other two counties. If we are forced to amalgamate, I'd like to see it with louth. Cm1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 3 - 12/12/2020 17:11:06 2321633 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Your missing the point here,its not about identity,its about representation and equal opportunity for players in every county to take part in a competitive AI football championship....it would then be worthy of the All Ireland banner. Identity would still continue with the tiered competitions where all teams would play against similarly accomplished and capable teams. Of course there would be teething problems and possibly teams not in balance with each other initially and this could be tweaked. It certainly would be a whole lot better than what we have at the moment and the term ALL Ireland is not apt to describe the current competition which is completely out of kilter and devoid of balance and equal opportunity." Except one of the main pillars of the GAA is identity. Its about parish and county. Only teams other than that are teams of neighbouring parishes or areas who need to join together to field. Every single player doesnt need to combine. You can be very competitive and never win anything. Identity wont continue. Nobody has an identity of Waterford/Kilkenny/Wexford/Carlow/Wicklow. or Antrim/Derry/Monaghan. Especially if you have these counties playing separated below this. It wouldnt be worthy of an all ireland championship. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3789 - 12/12/2020 17:18:02 2321637 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Can you develop your question a bit more,all amalgamated teams would work out on the same basis." It makes no sense at all. Derry and Antrim don't share a border with Monaghan. Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 12/12/2020 17:19:23 2321638 Link
Replying To Cm1: "I mean in the way that monaghan is nowhere near the other two counties. If we are forced to amalgamate, I'd like to see it with louth." North Monaghan not too far from South Derry and South Antrim,alternate training location between the three counties. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/12/2020 17:23:11 2321640 Link
Replying To Cm1: "How would Antrim Derry monaghan work" Sure you could build a home stadium in Cookstown, it'd be fairly central! extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 12/12/2020 17:34:09 2321644 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Can you develop your question a bit more,all amalgamated teams would work out on the same basis." To develop the question, how about an amalgamation of Limerick, Clare and Louth, what'd be wrong with that? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 12/12/2020 17:36:31 2321645 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "North Monaghan not too far from South Derry and South Antrim,alternate training location between the three counties." Are you smoking something? Why would you merge Derry with Monaghan instead of Tyrone or Donegal? Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 12/12/2020 17:50:43 2321648 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "North Monaghan not too far from South Derry and South Antrim,alternate training location between the three counties." Are you smoking something? Why would you merge Derry with Monaghan instead of Tyrone or Donegal? Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 12/12/2020 17:50:47 2321649 Link
Replying To Rolo2010: "Are you smoking something? Why would you merge Derry with Monaghan instead of Tyrone or Donegal?" Do the whole country and lets see what you come up with,did you even read the posts? ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 12/12/2020 19:41:25 2321675 Link
Possible team for Fingal/North City quickly off the top of my head Cluxton McMahon Cooper Murchan McCaffrey Small Howard McCarthy Fenton Lowndes Kilkenny Bugler Costello Rock Small Subs Comerford O`Brien McMahon Carty Archer Andrews Reilly Byrne McHugh Not a bad side I guess and I'm sure Connolly could be persuaded to make a return :) dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 12/12/2020 19:42:08 2321676 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Do the whole country and lets see what you come up with,did you even read the posts?" I certainly wouldn't be merging Monaghan with Derry. I read the posts and your proposal is still stupid. Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 746 - 12/12/2020 20:35:04 2321692 Link
Replying To witnof: "Why not just ban Dublin from the GAA altogether? Just way no Dublin team can win anything and everything outside Dublin is happy" That seems to be the idea. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 12/12/2020 20:37:51 2321693 Link
Replying To Ban: "How about putting weights on the Dublin players, like the handicapping system in horse racing!" You could also have a titling pitch, with Dublin playing uphill. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 12/12/2020 20:39:47 2321696 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Dublin City Clubs. Ballyfermot de la Salle, Ballymun Kickhams, Civil Service, Clanna Gael, Clontarf, Craobh Chiarain, Crumlin, Erins Isle, Good Counsel, Kevins, Liffey Gaels, Na Fianna, Naomh Barrog, Naomh Fionnbarra, O'Tooles, Parnells, Portobello, Raheny, Ranelagh Gaels, Robert Emmets, Rosmini Gaels, Scoil Ui Chonaill, Setanta, St Brendans, St James Gaels, St Josephs O'Connell Boys, St Monicas, St Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruadh, St Vincents, Trinity Gaels, Whitehall Colmcille. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fingal Clubs. Ballyboughal, Beann Eadair, Castleknock, Clann Mhuire, Erin go Bragh, Fingallians, Fingal Ravens, Garristown, Innisfails, Man-O-War, Na Dubh Gall, Naomh Mearnog, O'Dwyers, Roundtowers Lusk, Skerries Harps, Starlight, St Brigids, St Colmcille, St Finians Swords, St Margarets, St Maurs, St Patricks Donabate, St Peregrines,St Sylvesters,Tyrellstown,Westmanstown Gaels, Wild Geese. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DLRD Clubs. Cabinteely, Cuala, Geraldines P Moran, Kilmacud Crokes, Naomh Olaf, Shankill, Stars of Erin. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dublin South Clubs. Ballinteer St Johns,Ballyboden St Endas, Commercials, Croi Ro Naofa, Faughs, Lucan Sarsfields, Na Gael Oga, Realt Dearg, Round Towers Clondalkin, St Annes, St Finians Newcastle, St Judes, St Kevins Killians, St Marks, St Marys, St Patricks Palmerstown, Templeogue Synge St, Thomas Davis,Wanderers Ballyboden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This may not be a complete list of Clubs and I judgementally placed a couple clubs in counties.Thanks again to Mes Amis for the help on this. On a first look it looks like DLRD has insufficient clubs to form a Co team but with a club the size of Kilmacud Crokes that would not be a problem. It would be interesting if it were possible to look at all other counties and populations and clubs and standard of players with a view to formulating amalgamated teams?" Dublin can only be split in two, Dublin City and Dublin County. Forget DLRD/South nonsrnse. DLRD clubs are woefully under represented, of the teams listed for that area some dont count, one is exclusively juvenile, two female only. One clubs catchment area is in a different "county" to club grounds. If anyone is remotely interested in this exercise, Dublin City and Dublin County anything else is just a deliberate attempt to smash Dublin. GAA wont entertain this anyway, nor will Dublin. All academic arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4956 - 12/12/2020 20:59:46 2321700 Link
Replying To ONdeDITCH: "Amalgamated and stand alone teams to take part in AI football championship. Two Amalgamated teams representing Dublin geographical area.I have not included London and New York for logistical reasons. Separately there would be tiered competitions among the counties as they exist presently with the exception of Dublin where there would be four teams.This way supporters can still show their allegiance to their clubs and county teams. With the 16 competitive teams the AI championship could be played through open draw and straight knockout or divided into groups.I favour groups of four and each team play each other on a home and away basis.This would help to engender the team ethic particularly among the amalgamated teams and give supporters an opportunity to see and support their teams. In tandem with these changes Croke Park to financially and actively support the setting up of development academys in each county including the four Dublin counties and also have an oversight body to promote the game in areas where it hasn't been that successful. 1 Fingal/Dublin City 2 Dublin South/DLRD 3 Kerry 4 Cork 5 Clare/Limerick/Tipperary 6 Waterford/Kilkenny/Wexford/Carlow/Wicklow 7 Laois/Offaly/Kildare 8 Meath/Westmeath/Longford 9 Galway 10 Mayo 11 Roscommon/Sligo/Leitrim 12 Cavan/Fermanagh/Armagh 13 Donegal 14 Tyrone 15 Down/Louth 16 Antrim/Derry/Monaghan" I would be of the opinion that you do the Kerry Senior championship model. Abandon the league and have two championships county championship based on existing council structures: Dublin in 4, Cork in two, Galway in two, Belfast on its own That would have 40 teams: 10 Ulster, 6 Connacht, 7 Munster, 15 Leinster, New York and London. Counties would play for the following 8 - Senior County Kerry, Monaghan, Tyrone, Donegal, Roscommon, Armagh, Galway County, Fingal 16 Intermediate, Mayo, Meath, Kildare, Cork, Tipp, Cavan, Down, Wicklow, Limerick, Tipp, Offaly, Clare, Westmeath, Derry, Down, Cavan 16 Junior London, New York, Belfast City, Cork City, Dublin City, Dun Laoghaire Rathdown, South Dublin, Galway City, Sligo, Leitrim, Waterford, Louth, Carlow, Wexford, Antrim, Kilkenny Then you have 16 entering the All Ireland Championship - 8 Senior Counties and 8 regional teams Dublin County - Dublin City, Dun Laoghaire Rathdown, South Dublin North Leinster - Meath, Louth, Westmeath, Longford, South Leinster - Kildare, Laois, Wicklow, Wexford, West Ulster - Derry, Fermanagh, Cavan East Ulster - Down, Antrim, Belfast City Ormond- Offaly, Tipperary, Carlow, Kilkenny Munster - Cork, Cork City, Waterford, Limerick, Clare Connacht - Leitrim, Sligo, Galway City, Mayo tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1521 - 12/12/2020 21:29:00 2321715 Link
Looks like many Dublin posters, Croke Park and the media have already merged their heads with their ares. They are in total denial constantly looking up that tunnel of darkness. Ulsterman (Antrim)* - Posts: 9825 - 12/12/2020 21:39:38 2321722 Link