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Replying To Gleebo:  "Was there not a traveller team playing in the lower divisions in Dublin at one point, Pavee? Have they gone out of existence?"
Clubs can come and go Gleebo. That listed that was posted wasn't exhaustive I don't think and had the likes of BOI that I'm not sure still exist. Probably a number of clubs missing.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13833 - 10/12/2020 18:43:50    2321134

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Why not just ban Dublin from the GAA altogether? Just way no Dublin team can win anything and everything outside Dublin is happy

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 10/12/2020 19:04:30    2321139

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split dublin in 2 and there is a good chance the leinster final will be dublin north v dublin south, yea that sure will save leinster football , meanwhile the other so called major football counties can continue to be a shambles, typical irish view, ignore the REAL problem, its to unplesent, it offends "good serverts" who are running things [into the ground in some] for the last 30/40 years in counties

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 3002 - 10/12/2020 19:13:29    2321143

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "split dublin in 2 and there is a good chance the leinster final will be dublin north v dublin south, yea that sure will save leinster football , meanwhile the other so called major football counties can continue to be a shambles, typical irish view, ignore the REAL problem, its to unplesent, it offends "good serverts" who are running things [into the ground in some
for the last 30/40 years in counties"]Of course they will. They will probably contest an all ireland final too, fairly quickly to be honest. What is the problem with that? If they are the two best teams then best of luck to them. If they are contesting every final for 10 years then we might have to look at it again.
As regards an irish solution, pumping money in with no foresight or long term planning for the sake of a quick buck, now where has that happened before?

HardCase (USA) - Posts: 64 - 10/12/2020 19:44:01    2321153

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "I've in the minority of Dublin people in that I have supported splitting Dublin in even pre Jim Gavin era. There have long been too many excellent players in Dublin who do not get in play at intercounty level ."
Colm ó Rourke was one of the first pundits to say maybe Dublin should be split. But in fairness to Colm it was before Dubs were dominating. It was because like yourself badmonkey he felt that alot of very good players in Dublin never get a chance to play County football. I do see the logic behind this but IMO it is nt the right way to go. It would be very hard on the fans and definitely would nt be the same for them or for alot of us. In 30 or 40 years time folk would be used to it but our generation would find it difficult. Now I realise like yourself many players lose out that are county standard but maybe in the league Dublin could enter a B team in division 4 and I've no doubt they be up to div 2 in a few seasons. However there would be a problem if they ended up in same div as the main team. Just trying to think outside the box cos I would not like Dublin split and think it's wrong. Also maybe use the grandparent rule and players could play for other counties. Splitting Dublin does nt help weaker counties

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4021 - 10/12/2020 19:58:06    2321157

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Colm ORourke was indeed the first to mention splitting Dublin,now its time to have a deeper look at that and contemplate diluting Dublin somewhat by having four teams and having amalgamated teams playing for the AI championship ONLY,Dublin would likely supply two amalgamated teams.It would have positives for Dublin players in that more of them get an opportunity and would be exposed to playing at county level.
The most positive thing about it is that we would have a much more competitive AI football championship and players from the so called lesser counties would play on an amalgamated team and perhaps win an AI medal,now wouldn't that be fantastic!

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/12/2020 20:47:43    2321175

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Why not just let a load of Dublin lads who can't get near a panel play for Kilkenny.

Kilkenny people will be interested in having a football team in no time!

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 159 - 10/12/2020 20:48:49    2321176

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Dublin City Clubs.

Ballyfermot de la Salle, Ballymun Kickhams, Civil Service, Clanna Gael, Clontarf, Craobh Chiarain, Crumlin, Erins Isle, Good Counsel, Kevins, Liffey Gaels, Na Fianna,
Naomh Barrog, Naomh Fionnbarra, O'Tooles, Parnells, Portobello, Raheny, Ranelagh Gaels, Robert Emmets, Rosmini Gaels, Scoil Ui Chonaill, Setanta, St Brendans,
St James Gaels, St Josephs O'Connell Boys, St Monicas, St Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruadh, St Vincents, Trinity Gaels, Whitehall Colmcille.



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Fingal Clubs.

Ballyboughal, Beann Eadair, Castleknock, Clann Mhuire, Erin go Bragh, Fingallians, Fingal Ravens, Garristown, Innisfails, Man-O-War, Na Dubh Gall, Naomh Mearnog, O'Dwyers, Roundtowers Lusk, Skerries Harps, Starlight, St Brigids, St Colmcille, St Finians Swords, St Margarets, St Maurs, St Patricks Donabate,
St Peregrines,St Sylvesters,Tyrellstown,Westmanstown Gaels, Wild Geese.


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DLRD Clubs.

Cabinteely, Cuala, Geraldines P Moran, Kilmacud Crokes, Naomh Olaf, Shankill, Stars of Erin.


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Dublin South Clubs.

Ballinteer St Johns,Ballyboden St Endas, Commercials, Croi Ro Naofa, Faughs, Lucan Sarsfields, Na Gael Oga, Realt Dearg, Round Towers Clondalkin, St Annes,
St Finians Newcastle, St Judes, St Kevins Killians, St Marks, St Marys, St Patricks Palmerstown, Templeogue Synge St, Thomas Davis,Wanderers Ballyboden.


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This may not be a complete list of Clubs and I judgementally placed a couple clubs in counties.Thanks again to Mes Amis for the help on this.

On a first look it looks like DLRD has insufficient clubs to form a Co team but with a club the size of Kilmacud Crokes that would not be a problem.

It would be interesting if it were possible to look at all other counties and populations and clubs and standard of players with a view to formulating amalgamated teams?

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/12/2020 21:35:28    2321201

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Replying To eoghan6688:  "Why not just let a load of Dublin lads who can't get near a panel play for Kilkenny.

Kilkenny people will be interested in having a football team in no time!"
Would be a bit of a conundrum as to what teams Kilkenny footballers would be amalgamated with!

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 10/12/2020 21:45:13    2321206

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Clubs can come and go Gleebo. That listed that was posted wasn't exhaustive I don't think and had the likes of BOI that I'm not sure still exist. Probably a number of clubs missing."
Not having a go, was just curious as I recall having read about them on a few occasions. I'd struggle to rattle off the fifty clubs in Mayo.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 10/12/2020 23:07:50    2321233

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The continuing arrogance, detachment and dismissive attitude of many Dubs and media elements is very depressing. They really can't, or won't, see the bigger picture. This is definitely a monster that will eventually devour football and the only thing it will have left to eat is itself. Be under no illusions, Croke Park, Dublin and many Dublin based journalists will continue to ignore, deflect and look the other way......until reality bites then they will look at possibly splitting Dublin. It won't come around because they care about the rest, it will be about self preservation as the only contest left worth playing will be an internal Dublin one. TV, sponsors and advertisers will have an input when boredom starts to eat even into Dublin, then they will move. Up to then it will be more of the same patronising, lecturing guff as the rest of us drift away to other sports.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9825 - 11/12/2020 00:19:06    2321244

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Replying To Rolo2010:  "No sport does this. Sports teams are based on a local area and wide population disparity exists in all sports."
Yes, but if you had the power, would you design a structure where there this is parity? Better to lead than follow the same failed paths. Does it make sense that UEFA added Gibraltar to compete with Germany ?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3322 - 11/12/2020 06:25:51    2321248

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Dublin City Clubs.

Ballyfermot de la Salle, Ballymun Kickhams, Civil Service, Clanna Gael, Clontarf, Craobh Chiarain, Crumlin, Erins Isle, Good Counsel, Kevins, Liffey Gaels, Na Fianna,
Naomh Barrog, Naomh Fionnbarra, O'Tooles, Parnells, Portobello, Raheny, Ranelagh Gaels, Robert Emmets, Rosmini Gaels, Scoil Ui Chonaill, Setanta, St Brendans,
St James Gaels, St Josephs O'Connell Boys, St Monicas, St Oliver Plunketts Eoghan Ruadh, St Vincents, Trinity Gaels, Whitehall Colmcille.



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Fingal Clubs.

Ballyboughal, Beann Eadair, Castleknock, Clann Mhuire, Erin go Bragh, Fingallians, Fingal Ravens, Garristown, Innisfails, Man-O-War, Na Dubh Gall, Naomh Mearnog, O'Dwyers, Roundtowers Lusk, Skerries Harps, Starlight, St Brigids, St Colmcille, St Finians Swords, St Margarets, St Maurs, St Patricks Donabate,
St Peregrines,St Sylvesters,Tyrellstown,Westmanstown Gaels, Wild Geese.


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DLRD Clubs.

Cabinteely, Cuala, Geraldines P Moran, Kilmacud Crokes, Naomh Olaf, Shankill, Stars of Erin.


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Dublin South Clubs.

Ballinteer St Johns,Ballyboden St Endas, Commercials, Croi Ro Naofa, Faughs, Lucan Sarsfields, Na Gael Oga, Realt Dearg, Round Towers Clondalkin, St Annes,
St Finians Newcastle, St Judes, St Kevins Killians, St Marks, St Marys, St Patricks Palmerstown, Templeogue Synge St, Thomas Davis,Wanderers Ballyboden.


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This may not be a complete list of Clubs and I judgementally placed a couple clubs in counties.Thanks again to Mes Amis for the help on this.

On a first look it looks like DLRD has insufficient clubs to form a Co team but with a club the size of Kilmacud Crokes that would not be a problem.

It would be interesting if it were possible to look at all other counties and populations and clubs and standard of players with a view to formulating amalgamated teams?"
DLRD you are essentially picking from 3 clubs there. Olafs, Crokes and Cuala. The others are women only or junior clubs. Goes to show that the GAA need to get more people playing in this area. More funding for DLRD needed!

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4655 - 11/12/2020 10:07:40    2321274

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The continuing arrogance, detachment and dismissive attitude of many Dubs and media elements is very depressing. They really can't, or won't, see the bigger picture. This is definitely a monster that will eventually devour football and the only thing it will have left to eat is itself. Be under no illusions, Croke Park, Dublin and many Dublin based journalists will continue to ignore, deflect and look the other way......until reality bites then they will look at possibly splitting Dublin. It won't come around because they care about the rest, it will be about self preservation as the only contest left worth playing will be an internal Dublin one. TV, sponsors and advertisers will have an input when boredom starts to eat even into Dublin, then they will move. Up to then it will be more of the same patronising, lecturing guff as the rest of us drift away to other sports."
Please drift away :-)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 11/12/2020 10:15:50    2321279

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The continuing arrogance, detachment and dismissive attitude of many Dubs and media elements is very depressing. They really can't, or won't, see the bigger picture. This is definitely a monster that will eventually devour football and the only thing it will have left to eat is itself. Be under no illusions, Croke Park, Dublin and many Dublin based journalists will continue to ignore, deflect and look the other way......until reality bites then they will look at possibly splitting Dublin. It won't come around because they care about the rest, it will be about self preservation as the only contest left worth playing will be an internal Dublin one. TV, sponsors and advertisers will have an input when boredom starts to eat even into Dublin, then they will move. Up to then it will be more of the same patronising, lecturing guff as the rest of us drift away to other sports."
But sure its everyone else's fault for not being at dublins level ulsterman, sure we don't have their population money or eternal home advantage but its still our fault.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/12/2020 10:19:05    2321281

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So do you also split Dublin hurling and camogie into 4 too?? Neither have much hope of winning McCarthy or O'Duffy cups as things stand - so their prospects are unlikely to improve if split into four!!

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 11/12/2020 10:19:22    2321282

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "But sure its everyone else's fault for not being at dublins level ulsterman, sure we don't have their population money or eternal home advantage but its still our fault."
Dont forget about the free car, free gym membership, a team holiday and the 2 grand to spend as pocket money, getting off work early to go to training, or 95% full time professional during the 3/4 months that the all ireland football championship runs for and that includes having your meals cooked and delivered to you and training in the gym 2 times a day having your own personal trainer there in that gym to over see your training and not being out of pocket for any of that 3/4 months away from work. That is what is causing the problems. ;-)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2850 - 11/12/2020 10:31:42    2321286

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Dont forget about the free car, free gym membership, a team holiday and the 2 grand to spend as pocket money, getting off work early to go to training, or 95% full time professional during the 3/4 months that the all ireland football championship runs for and that includes having your meals cooked and delivered to you and training in the gym 2 times a day having your own personal trainer there in that gym to over see your training and not being out of pocket for any of that 3/4 months away from work. That is what is causing the problems. ;-)"
Well you're quoting another poster there from the kerry page, you know you really should stop stalking us if you don't like what you're reading over there.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/12/2020 11:09:01    2321300

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It shows the level of intellect on here that posters actually believe splitting Dublin is a logical step.

Your head would hurt reading some of this tripe.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 11/12/2020 11:24:12    2321303

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A potential elephant in the room is which of the 4 "Dublins" people would support?

For example, I was born in ND, grew up in DLR and currently live in SD (and am likely to do so for the foreseeable future). Should I support where I'm originally from or where I grew up and played GAA or where I live and my kids play GAA? My strongest current affinity is with DLR but will that be the case in 10 years? There doesn't appear to be a "border" between all the areas so how would people know exactly who to follow - especially those not associated with a particular club?

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 11/12/2020 11:53:52    2321309

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